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South Korea Plan for Space Based Solar for More Than All US Nuclear Power
https://www.nextbigfuture.com/ ^ | May 1, 2024 | Brian Wang

Posted on 05/10/2024 5:41:42 AM PDT by Jonty30

Two Korean research institutes are designing a space solar power satellite project with the aim of providing approximately 1000 TWh of electricity to the Earth per year. The 95 gigawatts of nuclear in the US generates 800 terawatt hours per year. Spaced based solar at 120 gigawatts would generate 1000 terawatt hours.

This is an improved proposed Korean Space Solar Power Satellite (K-SSPS) project. It is a conceptual design of the satellite, its end-of-life disposal method, and a first pilot system and experiment.

The proposed system would use 4,000 sub-solar arrays measuring 10 meters × 270 meters and comprising thin film roll-out, with a system power efficiency of 13.5%.

It is not derived from rigorous analyses but rather serves as system requirements for commercial viability.

The system will have a mass of 10,000 tons per 2 gigawatt module and transmit microwave at a frequency of 5.8 GHz to Earth via a 1.0 square kilometer antenna. The microwaves can be converted on the ground to usable electricity via rectennas, which are special receiving antennas that are used for converting electromagnetic energy into direct current (DC).

On the ground, the researchers propose to place 60 rectennas with a diameter of 4 km along the Korean Demilitarized Zone (DMZ). In that case, 60 satellites will have to correspond to the 60 rectennas. If each rectenna could generate 2 GW, the total power collected would be 120 GW.

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To: Jonty30

There is power required to convert it to microwaves and beam it to the ground, then power loss converting it from microwaves to electricity. And then should it be assumed that no power is lost in the transmission through the atmosphere regardless of weather? Don’t think so. Total power losses are not going to be negligible, I suspect.


41 posted on 05/10/2024 9:29:52 AM PDT by Cincinnatus.45-70 (What do DemocRats enjoy more than a truckload of dead babies? Unloading them with a pitchfork!)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

My point is that they probably haven’t thought this through...

...or that they have, and with an ulterior motive.


42 posted on 05/10/2024 9:43:21 AM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: KC_for_Freedom
" inverting the sound waves"

I never heard of "inverting sound waves". How is that done?

43 posted on 05/10/2024 9:46:27 AM PDT by A Navy Vet (USA Birth Certificate - 1787. Death Certificate - 2021? )
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To: logi_cal869

My point is that the whole idea is wildly impractical. No one who is the least bit serious is considering this for a minute. It’s idiotic.


44 posted on 05/10/2024 9:47:58 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Perdicaris alive or Raisuli dead!)
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To: Jonty30

And when your toaster is plugged into the array, you’ll hear this:

Good, good, good, good vibrations (oom bop bop)
She’s giving me the excitations (excitations, oom bop bop)
I’m pickin’ up good vibrations


45 posted on 05/10/2024 10:58:34 AM PDT by sergeantdave (AI training involves stealing content from creators and not paying them a penny)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Agreed.

But try they will.


46 posted on 05/10/2024 11:38:41 AM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: A Navy Vet

Like noise canceling headphones


47 posted on 05/10/2024 3:03:25 PM PDT by mowowie
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To: A Navy Vet

Electronic signal can be reversed then sent into an amp and speaker.
The idea (which would not have worked ) would require fast signal switching but this is possible. Where the plan fails is that the signal level has to be matched too. Where the listener is located but it has to be matched everywhere, for all locations. This can’t be done. So the city would be paying for something that is technically impossible.


48 posted on 05/10/2024 3:50:14 PM PDT by KC_for_Freedom (retired aerospace engineer and CSP who also taught)
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To: Red Badger

“transmit microwave at a frequency of 5.8 GHz to Earth via a 1.0 square kilometer antenna.
Birds will explode in just a second.......................”

2 gigawatts is 2 billion watts spread over a receiving antenna that’s 4000 meters wide is only 156 watts per square meter of surface area the beam diverges from GEO orbit four times its width of the 1000 meter transmitter.

Sunlight is 1000 watts per square meter on the earth’s surface. Birds won’t even warm up at night in the beam barely.


49 posted on 05/11/2024 1:08:16 AM PDT by GenXPolymath
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To: Jonty30

These days must be at geosynchronous orbit at ten thousand tonnes each...the largest rocket on earth is Starship by SpaceX it is twice the size of the Saturn V in takeoff thrust and LEO payload with a raptor based kick stage it could put 42 tonnes into GEO and bring back the OTV to LEO for starship to recover it the whole system is then reusable. So how many Starship launches to build a single 2 gigawatt station? 238 for 10,000 tonnes having 8 starships and launching one a day land recovery refurbish in 6 days between each launch would be 365 launches per year with a fleet of 8 leaving one on orbit at a time the others are in referb. Elon plans for Starship to be like an airplane land and ready to launch again in hours not days but a 6 day period seems less ambitious.


50 posted on 05/11/2024 1:23:14 AM PDT by GenXPolymath
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To: Jonty30

For those who are SpaceX fans this person did the mass balance for a hypothetical Raptor based OTV the numbers are impressive once you can throw 150 tonnes into LEO you can build massive things in space this is what Starship is all about and it will be fully reusable. Liquid methane is cheap and so is LOX starship needs a few million in each to fly.

https://www.reddit.com/r/space2030/comments/19038iz/thoughts_on_a_reusable_otv_for_starship/


51 posted on 05/11/2024 1:27:58 AM PDT by GenXPolymath
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To: GenXPolymath

It could attract birds instead, if they find it to be pleasant.


52 posted on 05/11/2024 1:28:39 AM PDT by Jonty30 (He hunted a mammoth for me, just because I said I was hungry. He is such a good friend. )
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To: KC_for_Freedom
Thank you, but the signal being reversed is still over my head. Always thought a low amplitude signal from a guitar, mic, etc. was one way to the amplifier.

But then I'm a drummer, so what do I know? I currently have a top line Roland electronic drum kit that I send those analog? signals to a small 60 watt amplifier if I don't want to use headphones.

53 posted on 05/11/2024 12:25:24 PM PDT by A Navy Vet (USA Birth Certificate - 1787. Death Certificate - 2021? )
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To: A Navy Vet

You know all you need to understand that it was a con. The city council thought they could do it but it really is beyond the concept of sound engineering. Imagine trying to cancel the sound from your drums. Now if you pick one spot in the room, you may be able to do it there. But every place else some sound would exist that was not cancelled. So you woud need more speakers placed in all directions. and the sound engineer would need to adjust the level at each location to continue to cancel at every location. Finally the drummer would hit a louder or softer rip and everything would be out of adjustment again.

The answer? If it seems too good to be true, it probably is not true.


54 posted on 05/11/2024 5:07:09 PM PDT by KC_for_Freedom (retired aerospace engineer and CSP who also taught)
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To: Jonty30

10,000 tons boosted into stationary 22,000 mile orbit, then constructed out there...somehow. Yeah, no problem.


55 posted on 05/11/2024 6:20:52 PM PDT by citizen (Put all LBQTwhatever programming on a new subscription service: PERV-TThose look good)
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To: Jonty30

Pie in the sky, literally.

“The system will have a mass of 10,000 tons...”
The entire ISS weight is 1 million pounds or 450 tons.


56 posted on 05/11/2024 6:25:56 PM PDT by citizen (Put all LBQTwhatever programming on a new subscription service: PERV-TThose look good)
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To: KC_for_Freedom

I think I got it now. Thank you.


57 posted on 05/12/2024 8:55:23 AM PDT by A Navy Vet (USA Birth Certificate - 1787. Death Certificate - 2021? )
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