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Make Peace With Pot
NY Times ^ | April 26, 2004 | ERIC SCHLOSSER

Posted on 04/26/2004 2:22:46 PM PDT by neverdem

Starting in the fall, pharmacies in British Columbia will sell marijuana for medicinal purposes, without a prescription, under a pilot project devised by Canada's national health service. The plan follows a 2002 report by a Canadian Senate committee that found there were "clear, though not definitive" benefits for using marijuana in the treatment of chronic pain, multiple sclerosis, epilepsy and other ailments. Both Prime Minister Paul Martin and Stephen Harper, leader of the opposition conservatives, support the decriminalization of marijuana.

Oddly, the strongest criticism of the Canadian proposal has come from patients already using medical marijuana who think the government, which charges about $110 an ounce, supplies lousy pot. "It is of incredibly poor quality," said one patient. Another said, "It tastes like lumber." A spokesman for Health Canada promised the agency would try to offer a better grade of product.

Needless to say, this is a far cry from the situation in the United States, where marijuana remains a Schedule I controlled substance, a drug that the government says has a high potential for abuse, no accepted medical uses and no safe level of use.

Under federal law it is illegal to possess any amount of marijuana anywhere in the United States. Penalties for a first marijuana offense range from probation to life without parole. Although 11 states have decriminalized marijuana, most still have tough laws against the drug. In Louisiana, selling one ounce can lead to a 20-year prison sentence. In Washington State, supplying any amount of marijuana brings a recommended prison sentence of five years.

About 700,000 people were arrested in the United States for violating marijuana laws in 2002 (the most recent year for which statistics are available) — more than were arrested for heroin or cocaine. Almost 90 percent of these marijuana arrests were for simple possession, a crime that in most cases is a misdemeanor. But even a misdemeanor conviction can easily lead to time in jail, the suspension of a driver's license, the loss of a job. And in many states possession of an ounce is a felony. Those convicted of a marijuana felony, even if they are disabled, can be prohibited from receiving federal welfare payments or food stamps. Convicted murderers and rapists, however, are still eligible for those benefits.

The Bush administration has escalated the war on marijuana, raiding clinics that offer medical marijuana and staging a nationwide roundup of manufacturers of drug paraphernalia. In November 2002 the Office of National Drug Control Policy circulated an "open letter to America's prosecutors" spelling out the administration's views. "Marijuana is addictive," the letter asserted. "Marijuana and violence are linked . . . no drug matches the threat posed by marijuana."

This tough new stand has generated little protest in Congress. Even though the war on marijuana was begun by President Ronald Reagan in 1982, it has always received strong bipartisan support. Some of the toughest drug war legislation has been backed by liberals, and the number of annual marijuana arrests more than doubled during the Clinton years. In fact, some of the strongest opposition to the arrest and imprisonment of marijuana users has come from conservatives like William F. Buckley, the economist Milton Friedman and Gary Johnson, the former Republican governor of New Mexico.

This year the White House's national antidrug media campaign will spend $170 million, working closely with the nonprofit Partnership for a Drug-Free America. The idea of a "drug-free America" may seem appealing. But it's hard to believe that anyone seriously hopes to achieve that goal in a nation where millions of children are routinely given Ritalin, antidepressants are prescribed to cure shyness, and the pharmaceutical industry aggressively promotes pills to help middle-aged men have sex.

Clearly, some recreational drugs are thought to be O.K. Thus it isn't surprising that the Partnership for a Drug-Free America originally received much of its financing from cigarette, alcohol and pharmaceutical companies like Hoffmann-La Roche, Philip Morris, R. J. Reynolds and Anheuser-Busch.

More than 16,000 Americans die every year after taking nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs like aspirin and ibuprofen. No one in Congress, however, has called for an all-out war on Advil. Perhaps the most dangerous drug widely consumed in the United States is the one that I use three or four times a week: alcohol. It is literally poisonous; you can die after drinking too much. It is directly linked to about one-quarter of the suicides in the United States, almost half the violent crime and two-thirds of domestic abuse. And the level of alcohol use among the young far exceeds the use of marijuana. According to the Justice Department, American children aged 11 to 13 are four times more likely to drink alcohol than to smoke pot.

None of this should play down the seriousness of marijuana use. It is a powerful, mind-altering drug. It should not be smoked by young people, schizophrenics, pregnant women and people with heart conditions. But it is remarkably nontoxic. In more than 5,000 years of recorded use, there is no verified case of anybody dying of an overdose. Indeed, no fatal dose has ever been established.

Over the past two decades billions of dollars have been spent fighting the war on marijuana, millions of Americans have been arrested and tens of thousands have been imprisoned. Has it been worth it? According to the government's National Household Survey on Drug Abuse, in 1982 about 54 percent of Americans between the ages of 18 and 25 had smoked marijuana. In 2002 the proportion was . . . about 54 percent.

We seem to pay no attention to what other governments are doing. Spain, Italy, Portugal, the Netherlands and Belgium have decriminalized marijuana. This year Britain reduced the penalty for having small amounts. Legislation is pending in Canada to decriminalize possession of about half an ounce (the Bush administration is applying strong pressure on the Canadian government to block that bill). In Ohio, possession of up to three ounces has been decriminalized for years — and yet liberal marijuana laws have not transformed Ohio into a hippy-dippy paradise; conservative Republican governors have been running the state since 1991.

Here's an idea: people who smoke too much marijuana should be treated the same way as people who drink too much alcohol. They need help, not the threat of arrest, imprisonment and unemployment.

More important, denying a relatively safe, potentially useful medicine to patients is irrational and cruel. In 1972 a commission appointed by President Richard Nixon concluded that marijuana should be decriminalized in the United States. The commission's aim was not to encourage the use of marijuana, but to "demythologize it." Although Nixon rejected the commission's findings, they remain no less valid today: "For the vast majority of recreational users," the 2002 Canadian Senate committee found, "cannabis use presents no harmful consequences for physical, psychological or social well-being in either the short or long term."

The current war on marijuana is a monumental waste of money and a source of pointless misery. America's drug warriors, much like its marijuana smokers, seem under the spell of a powerful intoxicant. They are not thinking clearly.

Eric Schlosser is the author of "Fast Food Nation" and "Reefer Madness."


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To: cinFLA
I really didn't think that even the druggies were so dumb...
It isn't a matter of someone being dumb or not. You posted it as if they were your own words. There is no attribution or name given whatsoever.
That is often called, since we're in the backroom now, piss poor manners.
921 posted on 04/28/2004 3:44:32 PM PDT by philman_36
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To: tacticalogic
I never said you did. You're the one claiming I said it.

LOL. I hope you know by now that cinFLA is fundamentally dishonest, solidly dishonest to the core. He is biologically incapable of honesty.

His only purpose in being here is make people like you run around in circles trying to refute the many misstatements he throws out there. He can't argue on facts or logic, so his only strategy is diversion and distraction. He's hoping to win by attrition.

His posts come from a list he has saved on his computer which he cuts and pastes where needed. They include:

"Provide evidence for your claim"
"I didn't say that"
"How much is George Soros paying you?"

LOL. He's a certifiable nutcase. Medically, clinically insane. But he's good for a few laughs.

922 posted on 04/28/2004 3:46:02 PM PDT by tdadams (If there were no problems, politicians would have to invent them... wait, they already do.)
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To: cinFLA
Here is what you said.
I'm fully aware of what I said.
Here is what you surmised and implied...
So you approve of taking away their right to bear arms and being a victim to prison rape?
I can't help it if you get what I say twisted. Only you can prevent word twisting.
Then I guess you either consider rape as NOT a depravation and an act of lawlessness OR you think felons should have guns in jail to protect themselves from rape?
You can guess whatever you want! My words are out there for any who wish to read them.
Oh man, this game of yours is fun, especially when all I have to do is link back to the previous page so that others can follow the string and see what isn't written here on this particular page.
923 posted on 04/28/2004 3:54:21 PM PDT by philman_36
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To: tdadams
Every once in a while if he gets too many threads going at once he seems to suffer a stack overflow and forget who he's lying to about what.
924 posted on 04/28/2004 3:55:17 PM PDT by tacticalogic (Controlled application of force is the sincerest form of communication.)
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To: tacticalogic
Like my father used to say, "I don't have a good enough memory to be a liar."
925 posted on 04/28/2004 3:56:54 PM PDT by tdadams (If there were no problems, politicians would have to invent them... wait, they already do.)
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To: philman_36
I can't help it if you get what I say twisted. Only you can prevent word twisting.

I don't think he can do that! Earlier in this thread he used the term "threesome" and then castigated someone for assuming he was talking about a sexual relationship. Duh!

926 posted on 04/28/2004 4:00:22 PM PDT by tdadams (If there were no problems, politicians would have to invent them... wait, they already do.)
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To: neverdem
Oddly, the strongest criticism of the Canadian proposal has come from patients already using medical marijuana who think the government, which charges about $110 an ounce, supplies lousy pot. "It is of incredibly poor quality," said one patient. Another said, "It tastes like lumber."

Figures the gubmint would find a way to screw up something so simple! :)

927 posted on 04/28/2004 4:19:42 PM PDT by NYC GOP Chick ("If I could shoot like that, I would still be in the NBA" -- Bill Clinton, circa 1995)
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To: tdadams
He's a certifiable nutcase. Medically, clinically insane. But he's good for a few laughs.

I don't think he (or she) is that bad. His (her) posting patterns are interesting, from my viewpoint, though.




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928 posted on 04/28/2004 4:23:29 PM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: William Terrell
Where the heck did that come from?
929 posted on 04/28/2004 4:29:09 PM PDT by tdadams (If there were no problems, politicians would have to invent them... wait, they already do.)
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To: tdadams
Wrote a program to extract it.

930 posted on 04/28/2004 4:50:05 PM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: The kings dead
Legalizing drugs would end up turning more Americans into losers and dead people at the publics expense.

You are not of this world regarding your critical thinking at all IMO.

Drugs are total crap basically, and your thoughts are that the way a problem goes away is to make it legal. All that would do is make the problem spread more and give people the impression it was safe and more innocents would be screwed up for life.

I am not into pushing dope. You sound to me like the drifter who offers candy to children that is laces with razor blades or Satan himself who pushes evil while attempting to pose as the light of truth.

There are drug lords, terrorists and other criminals profiting from drug crimes and that is NOT the case as you mentioned for rape or in some cases murder. Therefore in many ways, a drug related criminal is even worse.
931 posted on 04/28/2004 6:59:31 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: William Terrell
That is some pretty interesting stuff there Bill. I went back to the other threads where you've got this up. Very interesting indeed.
932 posted on 04/28/2004 7:01:03 PM PDT by philman_36
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To: The kings dead
What kind of physics do you practice or study?
933 posted on 04/28/2004 7:07:24 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: tdadams
You sure took the definition freedom and took it on quite a spin.
934 posted on 04/28/2004 7:10:16 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: philman_36
I desire ethical behavior and not an anarchy where all the vices are worshiped, that is true.

But I am not for a Religion from government, no.

935 posted on 04/28/2004 7:12:18 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: A CA Guy
Legalizing drugs would end up turning more Americans into losers and dead people at the publics expense.

Tell me something. If what you say is true, then why don't we see an epidemic of people buying up spray paint and sniffing it? It's cheap as can be, gets you really high, it's available in abundance within a mile of almost everyone, and even the youngest of kids can buy it.

Yet we don't see any such epidemic. How do you explain this?

936 posted on 04/28/2004 7:47:07 PM PDT by tdadams (If there were no problems, politicians would have to invent them... wait, they already do.)
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To: tdadams
Got news for you, in California you have that locked up behind counters and children can't buy it.

937 posted on 04/28/2004 7:54:34 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: A CA Guy
Well that may be in crazy California, but you're evading my question and you didn't answer.

The rest of the country has no such restrictions, yet there is no epidemic. Why?

938 posted on 04/28/2004 8:06:06 PM PDT by tdadams (If there were no problems, politicians would have to invent them... wait, they already do.)
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To: tdadams
Because it hasn't perhaps been glorified everywhere by subcultures and in films like pot has with great regularity.

They also push cigarette smoking and heavy drinking a lot as well in films and that is not admirable.
939 posted on 04/28/2004 8:11:50 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: A CA Guy
I desire ethical behavior and not an anarchy where all the vices are worshiped, that is true.
I don't see how vices could be "worshipped" in an anarchic world.
Personally, I don't know where vices would be considered worship except in a theocracy. It makes no sense otherwise. Kind of like the old temples/religion of Aphrodite where sex itself was a form of worship.
But I am not for a Religion from government, no.
Well, that isn't exactly what a theocracy is. A theocracy is governance by immediate divine guidance or by officials who are regarded as divinely guided so the question still stands as unanswered.

Do you want government to enforce your particular views on religion?

940 posted on 04/28/2004 8:25:32 PM PDT by philman_36
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