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BISHOPS' PRESIDENT BLASTS 'SOUTH PARK' EPISODE LAMPOONING MARY (Disgusting!)
Catholic News Service ^ | 12/19/2005 | Staff

Posted on 12/28/2005 1:12:12 PM PST by FerdieMurphy

WASHINGTON (CNS) -- The president of the U.S. bishops blasted a recent episode of the cable television comedy "South Park" that he said showed Mary in "a tasteless and ugly fashion."

In a Dec. 14 letter to Tom Freston, co-president and chief operating officer of Viacom International, parent company of Comedy Central, the cable channel that shows "South Park," Bishop William S. Skylstad of Spokane, Wash., said the channel showed "extreme insensitivity" in choosing to show the episode.

The episode, which first was shown Dec. 7 and had repeat showings in the week following, was titled "Bloody Mary." During the episode, a "South Park" character claims to have been sprayed with blood from a bodily orifice of a Virgin Mary statue.

When Pope Benedict XVI investigates in the show, he declares that she was merely menstruating. The episode's premiere date came the day before the feast of the Immaculate Conception, a holy day of obligation for Catholics.


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To: churchillbuff

You're a complete and total liar. Proven once again by your own posts on this thread.


381 posted on 12/28/2005 2:46:10 PM PST by Howlin (Defeatism may have its partisan uses, but it is not justified by the facts. - GWB, 12/18/05)
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To: Howlin
"Top that, if you can!! :-)"

Ok...you win.

All I got was that I live in Utah...was married to a member of the L.D.S. Church....and had a dog.

Yours IS tough to top!!!(grin)

redrock

382 posted on 12/28/2005 2:46:19 PM PST by redrock ("I woke up this morning...everything else is just Dessert."--some old guy in Utah)
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To: Texas Eagle; Howlin
It was probably that part about you being a Menstruating-American. Sorry for getting all South Parky on you.

Actually, TX Eagle... "Menstruating-American" = Very funny! I like that!

383 posted on 12/28/2005 2:46:45 PM PST by HairOfTheDog (Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/ 1,000 knives and counting!)
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To: redrock
"South Park" is NOT a child of the '60's....no matter what anyone wants to believe. It is more a continuation of the comedy of the Marx Brothers...."""

Can't let you get away with that distortion. The vulgarity that is the hallmark of this show is STRAIGHT out of the 60s. Marx Bros lampooned, but no obscenity, no vulgarity. It was the 60s - and all the destructive ideas that they ushered in - that made vulgarity and obscenity fashionable. South Park is riding that wave, and a lot of freepers - themselves children of the 60s, or children of 60s children - are robotically applauding the vulgarity (and, in good 60s fashion, condeming anyone who doesn't as "uptight"). Far out, man.

384 posted on 12/28/2005 2:47:10 PM PST by churchillbuff
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To: yellowdoghunter
It is still a show that debases our culture.

I think the call for personal responsibility in terms of alcoholism did not debase our culture, but was thought provoking. This may sound surprising, but I thought the conflict of responsibility vs. the 12 step program was pretty insightful. Of course, to read this thread, you might think that this episode centered around Mary. The 12 step program of AA was the primary target of this episode.
385 posted on 12/28/2005 2:47:28 PM PST by andyk (Fear my strategery of misunderestimation.)
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To: Howlin
Excuse me?

Lot of imbeciles in the world, it seems.
Some of whom appreciate irreverent satire, and some who simply condemn things they know nothing about.

I like that first kind, myself. ;-)

386 posted on 12/28/2005 2:48:11 PM PST by humblegunner (If you're gonna die, die with your boots on.)
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To: gov_bean_ counter
First off, I like South Park and if I had cable up here I would watch it alot more.............I haven't seen the episode this thread is about.

As for making fun of Jesus, I can't recall any episode that actually made fun of Jesus. But then with South Park, everything is an illustration of peoples double standards and duplicity. In the episodes I can think of with Jesus in them, the message is always about how hypocritical people are. One of my favorite episodes is the one about when Satan challenges Jesus to a boxing match. On south park Jesus is kind and gentle (has a cable access tv show that never has any viewers) and Satan is this huge half goat half buffed red gay guy. All the towns people loudly proclaim that they are for Jesus and that they are going to bet on him....................ofcourse they all bet on Satan instead, while loudly proclaiming their faith in Jesus. When Jesus confronts them about their lack of faith they are all shamed but increase they're bets on Satan. When the fight happens, ofcourse Jesus can't physically over power Satan, but Satan keep saying to him hit me hit me............Jesus just gently taps him and he falls down (throwing the fight) and Jesus wins. Everyone loses their money and gets mad at Satan. Satan just laughs and says something like "Ofcourse I lied, I'm Satan, the prince of deceit, what did you expect?"
So, is that making fun of Jesus? I don't think so, I think it makes a very critical point about out society thought.

btw, my favorite SouthPark is The Alien Implant one. Next favorite is the Rain Forest one. Got the soundtract to the movie.

for those who don't think they make fun of muslims, check out the Osama bin Laden one.
387 posted on 12/28/2005 2:48:26 PM PST by silver charm (Do not be deceived, God can not be mocked. as a man sows so shall he reap. Gal. 6:7)
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To: churchillbuff

The core belief behind South Park is that children aren't born pure and righteous but then twisted by society. Rather, it is the job of the parents and society to mold them into good people. Kid's aren't the example for society to follow, rather they are the ones for which parents and society should be setting the example for them to follow.

Left to themselves or the twisted "village" most kids are raised in today, they become little Cartmens. The show is meant as a "scared straight" for parents rather than an influence for kids.

The kid with the most normal family is the most normal kid. The kid with the single parent whore mother is pure evil, the kid with parents on welfare gets killed every episode, and the kid whose parents are too strict and controlling is neurotic.

They don't need to be vulgar to be funny, they are vulgar for the purpose of demonstration: let the village raise your kids and this is the result. South Park isn't saying "let your kids do this", it's saying that if you don't do your job as parents this is what they'll do.


388 posted on 12/28/2005 2:48:43 PM PST by Undecided
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To: rwfromkansas

lest, not let. Yikes.


389 posted on 12/28/2005 2:49:08 PM PST by rwfromkansas (http://www.xanga.com/rwfromkansas)
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To: Stopislamnow

Yes, scrawling anti war grafittie on government property really helps the war effort /sarcasm.


390 posted on 12/28/2005 2:49:13 PM PST by balch3
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To: churchillbuff; tortoise
I noticed you didn't bother to reply to this post to you, so I'll post it again; answer this one:

To: churchillbuff
If you were, you might not love a show that blasphemes your religion.

I don't follow this accusation. The show always shows Jesus in a positive light and Jesus always wins in his struggles against the evil in the world. As far as I can tell (and I do watch the show), South Park is very supportive of Christianity as a religion.

What they are intolerant of is holier-than-thou blowhards and religious hypocrites, and rightly so. If you find that offensive, then you might be a "religious hypocrite" or "holier-than-thou blowhard".

281 posted on 12/28/2005 5:16:46 PM EST by tortoise (All these moments lost in time, like tears in the rain.)

391 posted on 12/28/2005 2:49:21 PM PST by Howlin (Defeatism may have its partisan uses, but it is not justified by the facts. - GWB, 12/18/05)
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To: Adam-ondi-Ahman
would it make sense for Joseph and Mary to live a celibate life after she had Jesus?

Yes it would; a continent life within marriage, since both the Blessed Mother and St. Joseph were subject to the oral law of Kiddushin. St. Joseph was prepared to put the Blessed Mother away privately because he knew he was not the father of her unborn child. It's ludicrous to hypothesize that once St. Joseph was made aware that the Father of her child was the Holy Ghost he would even anticipate a conjugal life with the Blessed Mother who herself was a consecrated virgin. To engage in conjugal relations after the birth of Jesus would have made both of them adulterers. It simply didn't happen.

Linguistic literalists like yourself cherry pick Scripture thinking they've found the smoking gun proving that the Blessed Virgin Mary gave birth to other children. In the process you neglect to provide the quotes from Scripture in which the words brother, sister, brethren mother and father are used to describe people with no biological relationship whatsoever. These people have a very poor comprehension of Scripture, Jewish customs, Hebrew, Greek and Aramaic. None of which is surprising in a world of moral relativists.

392 posted on 12/28/2005 2:49:38 PM PST by A.A. Cunningham
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To: Howlin
Holier_Than_Thou types"""

Another Sixties-ism. The ultimate Leftist put-down for people who stand up for traditional values. Even today, cultural Leftists use it against Bush. So you're in bad company, but I'm not surprised.

393 posted on 12/28/2005 2:49:41 PM PST by churchillbuff
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To: Howlin

lol.....oh sorry.


394 posted on 12/28/2005 2:49:50 PM PST by rwfromkansas (http://www.xanga.com/rwfromkansas)
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To: retrokitten

Can you believe this crap??? :-)

How LOW will they GO?


395 posted on 12/28/2005 2:50:02 PM PST by Howlin (Defeatism may have its partisan uses, but it is not justified by the facts. - GWB, 12/18/05)
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To: churchillbuff

>> It was the 60s - and all the destructive ideas that they ushered in - that made vulgarity and obscenity fashionable. South Park is riding that wave, and a lot of freepers - themselves children of the 60s, or children of 60s children - are robotically applauding the vulgarity (and, in good 60s fashion, condeming anyone who doesn't as "uptight"). Far out, man.<<


A fanatic is one who cannot change his mind and won't change the subject.
-Winston Churchill


396 posted on 12/28/2005 2:50:09 PM PST by bamahead (DeLay declares 'victory' in war on budget fat - Washington Times 9/14/05)
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To: silver charm
for those who don't think they make fun of muslims, check out the Osama bin Laden one.

Or "Team America".

Dirka dirka jihad dirka

397 posted on 12/28/2005 2:50:32 PM PST by retrokitten (www.retrosrants.blogspot.com)
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To: yellowdoghunter

"Christianity is blasphemed, but not other religions."

"That is not surprising to me. No one I know is interested in toilet-bowl humor anyway."

Is it surprising to you that you're wrong?


398 posted on 12/28/2005 2:50:35 PM PST by republicofdavis
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To: MeanWestTexan

Mary only had one child, his name was Jesus, she was a virgin the day she was born and she was one the day she died.


399 posted on 12/28/2005 2:50:42 PM PST by AzaleaCity5691 (The enemy lies in the heart of Gadsden)
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To: Howlin

I am just used to saying "he" in referring to people (training by an old school English teacher who still demanded that. She retired last year) that sometimes I don't think.


400 posted on 12/28/2005 2:51:07 PM PST by rwfromkansas (http://www.xanga.com/rwfromkansas)
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