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Mom,' 'dad,' banned; now 600,000 students could go
WorldNetdaily.com ^ | February 07, 2008 | Bob Unruh

Posted on 02/08/2008 3:57:52 AM PST by Man50D

Only months after a new state law effectively banned "mom" and "dad" from California schools, a total of 600,000 students could follow because of what has been described as the "repudiation" of 2,000 years of Christian morality, according to leaders of a new campaign assembling education alternatives.

The campaign is called California Exodus, and is being headed by Ron Gleason, pastor of Grace Presbyterian Church in Yorba Linda, who said while the country excels in social, economic, scientific and political accomplishments, it "gets low grades on the education of its children."

The issue is the state legislature's adoption of Senate Bill 777, which requires only positive portrayals of homosexual, bisexual, transgender and other alternative lifestyle choices.

"First, the law allowed public schools to voluntarily promote homosexuality, bisexuality, and transsexuality. Then, the law required public schools to accept homosexual, bisexual, and transsexual teachers as role models for impressionable children. Now, the law has been changed to effectively require the positive portrayal of homosexuality, bisexuality, and transsexuality to six million children in California government-controlled schools," said Randy Thomasson, chief of the Campaign for Children and Families and one of those who originally called for an abandonment of public schools.

"To rescue their children, loving parents need to find an alternative to government schools, and every church needs to make it a priority to help parents be in charge of their children's education again," he said.

He has condemned public school districts as "no longer a safe emotional environment for children" under the new law, signed by Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, that will introduce children as young as kindergarten to the homosexuality and other alternative lifestyle choices.

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KEYWORDS: californiaexodus; homeschoolingisgood; homosexualagenda; homosexuals; moralabsolutes; publiceducation; publicschool; publicschools; sb777
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To: Man50D
This is about 30 years overdue, in my opinion.

The second sex-ed reared its ugly head in schools, parents should have pulled their kids out.

And I say this as someone who suffered through "sex-ed" as a 12 year old.
61 posted on 02/08/2008 6:40:31 AM PST by Antoninus (Looks like 2008 could be McCain vs. Hussein.)
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To: achilles2000
One key is making churches aware that they can provide a very good alternative to public schools at a very low cost without starting a traditional Christian school. The lower price point that is possible today will make it possible for many more children to leave.

That's true, and it would be good if more people knew how inexpensive a good education can be.

The school establishment in CA is very nervous about this.

Well, that's great!

62 posted on 02/08/2008 6:41:40 AM PST by Tax-chick ("Political zombies need brains, but they hunger only for taxes." ~ NicknamedBob)
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To: wintertime
Good question and we actually have a real good answer. We did think about it and were tempted. However, we have a brand new addition to our family, a little girl, born just 4 weeks ago. I am active duty military and also a preacher. We lead real busy lives. We think the added stress of trying to teach them on top of having an infant would be too much (plus I am going to be gone TDY about 2 months through August). We think we need some time to get mom and baby ajusted before we start this undertaking.

But...we were seriously considering it.

63 posted on 02/08/2008 6:41:47 AM PST by NELSON111
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To: stevio
Does anyone wonder why the Rush Limbaughs and the Sean Hannitys never talk about this?

Because they work with and for homosexuals, that's why. If this election has taught me nothing else, it's that the so-called "conservative" mouthpieces are about their livelihoods above all else. If they think their livelihood will be hurt by criticizing the homo-agenda, they won't do it. It's as simple as that.

In a more honest time, we would have called them "sell outs".
64 posted on 02/08/2008 6:45:07 AM PST by Antoninus (Looks like 2008 could be McCain vs. Hussein.)
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To: kittymyrib
Agreed. I never understood why so many non-Catholic Christians didn't set up their own chain of schools a long time ago, and instead attempted to work through the public schools to get their agenda pushed.

The more folks who withdraw their children from the "Welfare Schools" the better our country will be.

65 posted on 02/08/2008 6:45:18 AM PST by Clemenza (Ronald Reagan was a "Free Traitor", Like Me ;-))
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To: cinives; John123
WTF? When I went to grade school 30 years ago, they only taught us the three R’s. (John123)

You forgot the 4th R they’ve been teaching since the 60s - relativism.(cinives)
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Axiom: Education is NEVER religiously neutral. NEVER! there is NEVER a religious vacuum. NEVER!

When Christian, Christian belief, and Judeo Christian philosophy is removed from education something else is sucked into its place. At the moment, it is atheistic, Marxist-based, relativistic, Secular Humanist **religious*** belief.

That is what is being preached to our nation’s children by the government priests and priestess ( mis-named “teachers”)

66 posted on 02/08/2008 6:45:18 AM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: NELSON111

Abeka video school, BJUP satellite, and AOP Switched On Schoolhouse can all relieve the teaching chores while doing an excellent job...


67 posted on 02/08/2008 6:46:13 AM PST by achilles2000 (Shouting "fire" in a burning building is doing everyone a favor...whether they like it or not)
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To: JimRed

IT IS NOT YOUR FAULT; YOU DID NOT DO WRONG, THEY DID.
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One trick used by homosexuals:

They encourage children to experiment with homosexuality. ( Hey! How can you know if you don’t try it?!)

Then if a child does “try” it, they say, “Once a homosexual, always a homosexual!”

Wow! What a Catch 22!


68 posted on 02/08/2008 6:47:33 AM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: stevio
I've gotten through to the call screener to try to talk about the Philly7, I was berated by his call screener and told "Rush didn't think his listeners would be interested".

As I said, all the conservative media types work with and for homosexuals. The homos have made it a point to be everywhere in media and government so as to have the maxiumum influence and to be able to use emotional (and sometimes actual) blackmail. Heck, even a guy like Rick Santorum had a homosexual high up on his staff.
69 posted on 02/08/2008 6:49:01 AM PST by Antoninus (Looks like 2008 could be McCain vs. Hussein.)
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To: NELSON111
We think the added stress of trying to teach them on top of having an infant would be too much

Unless you were going to take the "running and reading" approach - "Here's your library card. What, you're tired of reading? Then start pounding the pavement!" - that's probably wise.

70 posted on 02/08/2008 6:49:12 AM PST by Tax-chick ("Political zombies need brains, but they hunger only for taxes." ~ NicknamedBob)
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To: kittymyrib

Its not up to pastors to make that decision they are merely a part of the body like everyone else. People need to organize homeschooling groups within their churches..


71 posted on 02/08/2008 6:50:22 AM PST by N3WBI3 (Ah, arrogance and stupidity all in the same package. How efficient of you. -- Londo Mollari)
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To: tcrlaf
From time to time, they DO talk about it, but then get flooded with tons and tons of Email about thier “Hate” and “Bigotry”.

That never stopped them from taking on issues like affirmative action, though, did it?
72 posted on 02/08/2008 6:50:40 AM PST by Antoninus (Looks like 2008 could be McCain vs. Hussein.)
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To: Antoninus
Because they work with and for homosexuals,....
In a more honest time, we would have called them “sell outs”.
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Wow! I never thought of this!

You are likely absolutely correct!

Homosexuals have enormous power in the media, and likely within the organizations of their sponsors.

Rush, Hannity, and OReilly,,,The Sell-outs! How true!

73 posted on 02/08/2008 7:00:40 AM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: Clemenza; N3WBI3; kittymyrib; stefanbatory
I never understood why so many non-Catholic Christians didn't set up their own chain of schools a long time ago,(Clemenza)

Its not up to pastors to make that decision they are merely a part of the body like everyone else. People need to organize homeschooling groups within their churches..(N3WB13)

It’s time for the churches that profess to love children now put up or shut up and provide an opportunity to educate children in a place where Jesus would be welcome (kittymyrib )

To: Clemenza; N3WB13; kittymyrib

There are several reasons ministers do not step up to organize schools:

The first and foremost reason is that they are not about to offend the many teachers, school employees, and those who work for business that directly or indirectly get money from the schools. (For example: Even my dentist depends on school dental insurance for a living.)

If ministers are not opening schools for this reason, they I call them "Sell-Outs!" and "hypocrites"!

Another reason is that too many ministers are incapable of thinking "outside" the box. In their mind "school" means a brick and mortar institution. This means tons and tons of regulations, zoning, health and fire codes, employee withholding taxes, disability insurances,,etc. Believe me! I sympathize with these guys. They are already busy enough!

So...I am in sympathy with Stefanbatory and N3WBI3. If the pastors of these churches are fully occupied with spreading the gospels that is just about all they have time to do, and is ultimately their most important job.

N3WBI3, we should educate our ministers on the existence of virtual schools, homeschool cooperatives, mini-schools, one room school houses, dame schools,,,,etc. All of which would mean little in the way of administration by the minister. BUT,,,The minister SHOULD step up and take the lead. Isn't that the whole meaning of the word "pastor"?

If pastors still refuse to lead, then individual Christians must do this themselves, as N3WBI3 has suggested.

As a graduate of Villanova University I urge all parents to be careful about choosing a Catholic school. My university was full to the brim with Marxist Liberation Theologists!

74 posted on 02/08/2008 7:27:49 AM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: wintertime
I was wondering how long it would take for someone to post that **thier** child’s school was different. Gee! And not at all effected by what goes on in California.

So it's bad for someone to say some teachers are fighting back, and trying to provide a quality conservative education? Or are you saying:

a.) All teachers are rotten if they work in a government school?
b.) There's no hope for government schools, and we should all just give up?

Which is it? Are all states like Califronia, or are you just being negative?

75 posted on 02/08/2008 7:37:46 AM PST by scan59 (Let consumers dictate market policies. Government just gets in the way.)
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To: tcrlaf

Yup...same for the Boy Scouts, because they don’t embrace the homosexual agenda being rammed down their throats, THEY are a hate-group also!

Don’t ya just love those that argue there’s no evidence of Christian persecution going on right before their very eyes in this country?


76 posted on 02/08/2008 7:39:32 AM PST by tpanther
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To: stevio
>>"Rush didn't think his listeners would be interested".
 
When are folks going to figure out that the primary purpose served by Rush is to prop up the dialectic illusion that the two parties are different?
 
The manufactured "left" is arranged in opposition to the manufactured "right" and the sheeple get herded up the centrist middle.  It's Hegelian Dialectics in action.
 
It's all openly laid out in this book by Bill Clinton's mentor, Carroll Quigley:

77 posted on 02/08/2008 7:39:50 AM PST by Etoo
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To: scan59

There’s no hope for government schools, and we should all just give up?


78 posted on 02/08/2008 7:48:06 AM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: stevio

I know that I’ve heard Rush talk about this.

I also know that he stated he was not happy with any of the candidates until it was clear that it was between Romney and McCain. I can understand why he decided to support Romney given those choices.


79 posted on 02/08/2008 7:54:12 AM PST by dangerdoc (dangerdoc (not actually dangerous any more))
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To: achilles2000; scan59; babyfreep
In the case of SB 777, it is now clear that no school can be “different.” (Achilles2000)

This can not be said often enough. "NO school can be different!:

80 posted on 02/08/2008 7:56:29 AM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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