Posted on 01/15/2006 7:12:11 PM PST by dukeman
The left wing moonbats continue to amaze on DU:
undeterred (1000+ posts) Wed Jan-11-06 06:23 PM
Original message
Poll question: Were you more traumatized on 9/11/01 or 11/03/04 ?
Poll result (230 votes)
9/11/2001 (58 votes, 25%)
11/03/2004 (158 votes, 69%)
Other (14 votes, 6%)
LisaM (1000+ posts) Wed Jan-11-06 06:25 PM
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1. December 12, 2000
Worst day of all.
librechik (1000+ posts) Wed Jan-11-06 06:27 PM
Response to Reply #1
8. my answer too
I went into shock then, haven't come out
bananas (1000+ posts) Wed Jan-11-06 06:41 PM
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26. agree
After seeing the way they stole 2000, I had no doubt they would steal 2004.
I had been expecting something like 911 for years, so it wasn't a shock to me at all, I was expecting worse.
KT2000 (1000+ posts) Wed Jan-11-06 07:21 PM
Response to Reply #1
31. Agree!
and it keeps getting worse. The abdication of the Supreme Court to partisan politics was really the end of this country as we knew it. Nothing that has happened since has done anything but verify that fact.
Judge Bork was unavailable for comment.
never_get_over_it (1000+ posts) Wed Jan-11-06 07:26 PM
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35. Actually for me it was Dec 9, 2000
that is when Scalia stayed the vote count - I remember exactly where I wss when I heard - I had just finished doing Christmas shopping at toys r us and I heard on the car radio that the pig had stayed the count. At that moment I knew it was over. My neighbor kept trying to convince me over the next few days that it wasn't over but and I kept telling her you wait and see they are giving this thing to the freak.
SW FL Dem (1000+ posts) Thu Jan-12-06 01:47 AM
Response to Reply #1
73. I have to agree
As much as I mourn the deaths of innocent people on 9/11, nothing matches the disaster caused by the selection of 2000.
rzemanfl (1000+ posts) Wed Jan-11-06 06:26 PM
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4. Unfair question, I always knew 9/11 possibly could happen.
11/03/04 was more unbelievable.
chimpymustgo (1000+ posts) Wed Jan-11-06 06:29 PM
Response to Reply #10
14. November 3. Because America was officially dead. I was deeply depressed for months.
CrispyQGirl (1000+ posts) Wed Jan-11-06 06:34 PM
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Me too.
In fact, it was so bad my husband talked to me about it. I've never been depressed before -- oh, maybe a day or two, but never anything lasting. Worse, was, I didn't really relate it to the election until he mentioned it.
Now, I'm just numb. Everyday, more & more travesties are revealed & the dimson & his cronies continue to survive & persist. Simply mind boggling!
Sounds like you're in need of agonizing reappraisal, but I'm not holding my breath!
smirkymonkey (1000+ posts) Wed Jan-11-06 06:28 PM
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12. Honestly, 11/3/04 and I live in lower Manhattan.
I was shaken up after 9/11. I thought I was going to have a nervous breakdown after 11/3.
in_cog_ni_to (1000+ posts) Wed Jan-11-06 06:30 PM
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16. I cried for WEEKS after 911,
I'm STILL crying over the 2000 election thievery.
Ojai Person (1000+ posts) Wed Jan-11-06 06:31 PM
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17. No contest, November 2004.
People die all the time. It's not that often that a democracy bites the dust.
PretzelWarrior (1000+ posts) Wed Jan-11-06 06:33 PM
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19. ARE YOU GUYS F'ING SERIOUS!!??
I just watched a rebroadcast of "Faith and Doubt" on Frontline. That was a powerful reminder of 9/11 and how I felt back then. I was transported to another world of shock and grief I have never known either before or since.
This is politics--that was regular people who showed up to work one day...forced to jump from their fiery offices thousands of feet below to certain death.
I cannot imagine why you guys can even compare the 2.
JanMichael (1000+ posts) Wed Jan-11-06 06:36 PM
Response to Reply #19
25. Because the Nazi's maintained control through a stolen election, dear
I am sorry that you see the horror of 3,000 or more folks dying in a disgusting tragedy worse than the tens of thousands killed by us ON PURPOSE as something that cannot be compared.
Would you rather be in a collapsing building, or listen to the bombs dropping a block away in your city because of "politics."
KnowerOfLogic (822 posts) Wed Jan-11-06 07:31 PM
Response to Reply #19
36. OMG. 50k people die on US roads every year. 911 was nothing compared to the 5th column attack on democracy itself, from right here within our own country, by our own fellow citizens. Not only that, they have succeeded with election theft several times, and with each passing 'election,' american democracy slips that much closer to death. You have allowed yourself to be whippped into a frenzy of fear against the Foreign Enemy, while you disregard much greater threats to the health of america and its citizens which are present around you every day.
Please pass the tin foil1
sleipnir (1000+ posts) Thu Jan-12-06 01:14 AM
Response to Reply #19
69. 9-11 happened to other people, 11-3 happened to me directly.
I worked so hard and had so much hope and joy that night only to be devastated beyond belief.
I've since recovered long ago from the shock of 9-11, I still haven't fully recovered from the last major election.
This time it happened to me, my friends and family, not to other people in planes and buildings.
That is my honest answer to the question asked as to which has traumatized me more. I'm not judging what is the greater tragedy in the scope of humanity, but I have been far more traumatized by the election results. Mostly because the election losses were highly personal. And that's QUITE valid. Ask a question, get an honest answer. Being in Indiana at the time of 9-11 also caused me to have less of a reaction, if you will.
Please don't take this as a dismissal of the 9-11 horrors, but the truth is for me the greater shock to my emotional and mental system was from the last Presidential Election.
Can I get an "Amen!"?
laruemtt (1000+ posts) Wed Jan-11-06 06:33 PM
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20. i haven't been able to look at crowds of people in the same way since 11/3/04. couldn't believe they could STILL be that brain dead..........
ikojo (1000+ posts) Wed Jan-11-06 06:36 PM
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24. I was far more traumatized by 11/3/04
After four years of utter failure I thought the American people would have had enough and whomever the Dems put up would win in a landslide. It didn't happen and people fell for the swiftboaters (for which the response was too long in coming on the Democratic side).
I became REALLY depressed. I so looked forward to that election, hoping that Bush would be like his daddy, a one termer.
I have no hopes the American people will choose differently in 2006 or 2008.
So what if we do...working class people do not control the voting machines.
Seen the light (292 posts) Wed Jan-11-06 06:41 PM
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27. Like it or not, fair or not, threads like this are what lets people spread lies and propaganda about this site. JMO.
HAHAHAHAHAHA!
Rich Hunt (1000+ posts) Wed Jan-11-06 07:50 PM
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43. are you insane?
Do you know what some people have gone through because of 9/11??
As someone who was directly affected by it, I take offense to the comparison.
I was traumatized, and my life never recovered from it. I'm still dealing with the fall-out.
I'd rather have a Republican president than another 9/11 any day.
Jeez-us.
undeterred (1000+ posts) Wed Jan-11-06 07:53 PM
Response to Reply #43
46. 11/03/04 was not the election of a Republican president and if thats all you think it was, then I don't even know where to begin...
robbedvoter< (1000+ posts) Wed Jan-11-06 07:58 PM
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49. 12/12/04 as well. but 11.03 more than 911 - and I was THERE!
Saw the towers fall with my own eyes - but didn't cry the way I did those other occasions.
Nutmegger (560 posts) Thu Jan-12-06 01:41 AM
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72. 11/03/04
Here we had a chance to evict the evil Bush Inc and what happened? Ugh, it makes me sick just thinking about it. Then we hear the reports on Diebold and voter intimidation. Needless to say, I couldn't think straight for weeks.
FreedomAngel82 (1000+ posts) Thu Jan-12-06 02:02 AM
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76. 11/03/04 for sure
Funny thing is 9/11 didn't really phase me. I didn't cry or anything. It was like my subconscious was waiting for it to happen or something. But November 2nd, 2004 I stayed in bed most of the day crying and still crying now.
AntiCoup2K4 (1000+ posts) Thu Jan-12-06 12:46 PM
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89. Definitely 12/12/2000
Because there never would have been a 9-11-01 without it.
Freedom_Aflaim (59 posts) Thu Jan-12-06 10:39 PM
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98. We all die sometime
Democracy didnt have to.
Now the honest answer to the question is that 9/11 was far more traumitizing for me and most of America.
But Im temporal and I'll be gone by the end of this century.
Only an extremely small handful of people who witnessed 9/11/2001 will still be alive on 9/11/2101
But the devasting effect of 11/3/04 will be this country long after.
BlueIris (1000+ posts) Fri Jan-13-06 02:53 AM
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106. For me, the trauma I endured on 11/4/04 was worse than 9/11 or 11/3.
11/4 was when it sunk in--how much we had lost--right after I heard about EE's health situation. That day was probably one of the three worst of my entire life.
Another one of those three would probably have to be 1/7/05--another day upon which what had been my fairly optimistic hopes for a long-shot victory were officially crushed. The despair I felt on that day was overwhelming and oppressive. The despair of both of those days went beyond what I felt after my beloved grandfather's death, the day I was told I won't be able to have children, or the day a former boyfriend left me for that reason. There's only one thing worse than the death of a love or loved one and it's the death of a hope.
Hong Kong Cavalier (1000+ posts) Fri Jan-13-06 11:16 AM
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108. 9/11 was like someone shooting me in the leg... Hell, yes it hurt. It hurt for a long time. (still hurts a bit, in fact)
11/3/04 was 59 million people willingly giving them permission to do it again. 59 million people essentially saying "shoot me again, but this time, aim for the center mass." 59 million people willingly giving permission to the man personally responsible through sheer negligence, (or deliberate malevolence, if you believe in MIHOP) to do it again.
Ignoring the fact that the man was the son of the man whose policies put the attackers in power in the first place, Election day was 59 million people believing that this man who had the largest attack on American soil happen on his watch is the only one who can "protect us" from those that wish us harm. Am I foolish enough to believe that nobody would vote for him? Hell no. He's always going to have sycophants who will gaze into his eyes like adoring puppies (which is why Barney seems to want to get away from him all the time. The dog realizes that he has enough pets already.) But I seriously didn't think the American populace was that damn stupid.
The fact that 59 million people were that f***ing stupid made me lose a lot of faith in the American people that day.
I wish it didn't hurt more than 9/11. I really do.
HughBeaumont (1000+ posts) Fri Jan-13-06 11:58 AM
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109. 11/3/2004.
I lost hope in humanity. People who are smart enough to know better in regards to what these ****heads are/were capable of gave them the keys to do it all over again . . . and again . . .and again. It proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that the biggest mistake ever made by anyone in the 80s-90s was allowing reich wing-run corporations to buy media companies. Because no one called them on this, you now have a country full of easily-led f***ing sheep**** that will defend the broadcast Repuke ideology of fear, hatred and non-factoid talking points, courtesy of your local cable news channel. Might makes right. The Idiot has won.
9/11 shocked me, but didn't traumatize. 11/3 hurt me, pissed me off and made me depressed for months.
old stuff.
P-J Comix covered it in more detail on DUmmie FUnnies.
What selfish people they are. Spoiled, selfish, and immature CHILDREN.
Not to say that didn't happen, but to worry about it? The leftwingnuts are in total disarray!
They started flipping out about the Alito hearings toward the end of last week. They feel a noose tightening around their necks and they're realizing that their "leaders" in the Senate are useless. They're in a bad place.
...Government is their god.
I like that! Somebody here created a hilarious montage of actual photos from election night of shocked and grieving Dems. I feel all warm and fuzzy every time I think about it....
Yes, and abortion is their sacrament.
I remember seeing all those dejected rat faces, made me smile. Happy dance time!
And this DU thread didn't even come from their Mental Health Group forum....
Great graphic!
mopaul (1000+ posts) Mon Jan-16-06 07:55 AM
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We are NOT screwed, THEY are.
Let's get it right in our heads. A lot of people see what bush and his nazi pals are doing and they say, 'oh man are we screwed'. I suggest that this type of thinking is what gives them their power. They screw us and we complain, but we're still screwed. It's time to re-define who's screwing and being screwed here.
At this point, they are just f***ing with us, deliberately inciting us, taunting us and worse, disregarding us utterly. How did it come to this? We let them. We let them screw us, over and over and over again.
It's time to turn it around, and when we finally do, man are they screwed.
baby_mouse (1000+ posts) Mon Jan-16-06 08:04 AM
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1. Their primarty defense is not ADMITTING that they're screwed.
This fools everybody.
Shift the battleground. If they are making gains through convincing an imaginary audience that they aren't screwed, get rid of the imaginary audience.
flordehinojos (1000+ posts) Mon Jan-16-06 08:08 AM
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2. i am already dizzy by all this turning around but boy do i wish they could
Edited on Mon Jan-16-06 08:08 AM by flordehinojos
get screwed the hell out of them.
This one was even apparently edited for "clarity."
Tesla (1000+ posts) Mon Jan-16-06 09:05 AM
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4. If we say it enough, someone will "GET IT"
BOOWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
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