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When And Why Joseph C Wilson IV Outed Valerie Plame
Sweetness & Light ^ | March 17, 2007 | Steve Gilbert

Posted on 03/17/2007 3:37:58 AM PDT by Sam Hill

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To: Sam Hill

“[Wilson] Insist[s] He Remained A Centrist At Heart.” (Scott Shane, “Private Spy And Public Spouse Live At Center Of Leak Case,” The New York Times, 7/5/05)

* Joe Wilson Is A Registered Democrat. (District Of Columbia Voter Registrations, Accessed 7/14/05)

* Joseph Wilson Has Donated Over $8,000 To Democrats Including $2,000 To John Kerry For President In 2003, $1,000 To Hillary Clinton’s (D-NY) HILLPAC In 2002 And $3,000 To Al Gore In 1999. (The Center For Responsive Politics Website, www.opensecrets.org, Accessed 7/12/05)

* Wilson Endorsed John Kerry For President In October 2003 And Advised The Kerry Campaign. (David Tirrell-Wysocki, “Former Ambassador Wilson Endorses Kerry In Presidential Race,” The Associated Press, 10/23/03)

* “[Wilson] Admits ‘It Will Be A Cold Day In Hell Before I Vote For A Republican, Even For Dog Catcher.’” (Scott Shane, “Private Spy And Public Spouse Live At Center Of Leak Case,” The New York Times, 7/5/05)


101 posted on 03/18/2007 11:36:45 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: Sam Hill

Wilson in 2003 said Hillary Clinton was interested in the "cia leak controversy" Wilson also contributed money to Sen Clinton's political action committee HILLPAC in February 2002 - which is the same month he traveled to Niger for the CIA at his wife's suggestion


Wilson noted at the forum that there's still congressional interest in this controversy from several high-profile members, including Sens. Chuck Schumer, Dick Durbin, and Hillary Clinton."


102 posted on 03/18/2007 11:38:12 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: Rheo
This Wilson/Plame so called scandal is beginning to look like Hillary Clinton's payback for impeaching 'her husband' staring her head smear monger and LIAR Sidney Blumenthal, because Mrs. Bill Clinton is too cowardly to actually do it herself. She hides behind a man's shirt tail (AGAIN!) while proclaiming to be a liberated woman who isn't afraid of anything (except the TRUTH!).


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Sidney Blumenthal, a former aide to President Bill Clinton and now a columnist for several publications, has just published a book titled, "How Bush Rules: Chronicles of a Radical Regime." It is a collection of his columns for Salon, including one originally published on July 14, 2005, titled "Rove's War."


It was occasioned by the disclosure of a memo from Time magazine's Matt Cooper, saying that Rove had confirmed to him the identity of Valerie Plame. To Blumenthal, that was proof that this "was political payback against Wilson by a White House that wanted to shift the public focus from the Iraq War to Wilson's motives."
103 posted on 03/18/2007 11:51:26 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: Sam Hill

bump


104 posted on 03/18/2007 11:55:47 AM PDT by fso301
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To: Rheo

November 07, 2005
Joe Wilson's earlier mission to Niger

Not much commented on is the fact that in 1999, according to the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, Joseph A. Wilson IV made another trip to Niger, a trip also paid for by the CIA and for which he was chosen upon the recommendation of his wife, Valerie Plame. The SSCI gives no explanation for that trip.


105 posted on 03/18/2007 12:12:46 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: kcvl

Clap, clap, clap. :-)

You are amazing! I searched for an hour, and couldn't find it.


106 posted on 03/18/2007 12:26:30 PM PDT by pinz-n-needlez (Jack Bauer wears Tony Snow pajamas)
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To: kcvl

I seem to recall that they all use the same Speakers' Bureau, part of Bill Goodfellow's network.

Pretty cool to do PR by rolling over in bed and telling your wife, the Washington Post reporter, that you have another story ready for her to cover....

How much nepotism is 'enough??'


107 posted on 03/18/2007 12:42:09 PM PDT by pinz-n-needlez (Jack Bauer wears Tony Snow pajamas)
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To: kcvl

During Val's hearing, the various congress folks made several references to her having breakfast with Kristof and Joe. She confirmed her presence at that breakfast.

Did Clinton's Africa trip involving half of his administration include a stop in Niger? As I recall, Joe was one of the ringleaders for that. Bet that position would have covered a whole lot of questionable trips and exchanges of various contacts and favors...


108 posted on 03/18/2007 12:47:39 PM PDT by pinz-n-needlez (Jack Bauer wears Tony Snow pajamas)
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To: Rheo

I always think of you when something needs to be found on the Internet! ;-)

Hope all is well with you and yours. :-)


109 posted on 03/18/2007 12:52:20 PM PDT by pinz-n-needlez (Jack Bauer wears Tony Snow pajamas)
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To: pinz-n-needlez

I've been half joking about Valerie doing her Hearing so she'd have material for her last chapter in her book, and visuals for her movie. Check this out...http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/03/16/AR2007031601953_pf.html

Dana Milbank is helping the screenwriter with a first draft for that scene in the movie.


110 posted on 03/18/2007 2:51:53 PM PDT by pinz-n-needlez (Jack Bauer wears Tony Snow pajamas)
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To: piasa

Thanks for jogging my memory. I was convinced then, and now, that certain individuals or organizations were working to discredit Cheney/Bush. Remember, there was a lot of hostility directed at Cheney because his office involved itself in matters where they weren't wanted.


111 posted on 03/18/2007 7:48:52 PM PDT by unsycophant
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To: kcvl

Thanks for all of your outstanding posts. BTTT!


112 posted on 03/18/2007 10:46:45 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: Sam Hill; Enchante; kcvl; Txsleuth; Fedora
Speaking of that Jan 6, 2003 Senate Democrat policy meeting...

This came up when we had that T J Wilkinson discussion here on FR over Cap hill Blue's weird sources [which helped kickstart the Nigerflap story]... Cap Hill Blue when caught cleaned their site and the author Doug claimed he reported the fraud CIA agent source [said to be a Vietnam era Army special forces vet knowledgable about Los Alamos & Sandia N Labs and with ties to NEW MEXICO as I recall, like Wilson and his VIPS home selling pals the Christensons] he used in a series of articles going back to this Jan 2003 :

JANUARY 6, 2003 : (CHB ARTICLE IS PUBLISHED : DEMOCRAT PLANS TO UNDERMINE THE PRESIDENT : EFFORT TO BE LED BY DICK GEBHARDT -- See TRUTHOUT.COM, T J WILKINSON, CIA) Democrats plan to undermine public confidence in President George W. Bush by challenging his credibility and raising doubts about America, sources within the party tell Capitol Hill Blue. A multi-pronged attack against Republicans and the President will focus not only on economic issues, but question American values, raise doubts about how this country is viewed by other nations and question the patriotism of Bush and his party. The extensive campaign, developed by senior Democratic consultants and party leaders, was launched last week with attacks on the Bush economic plan by Democratic presidential hopeful Rep. Richard Gephardt.
In coming weeks, Democratic elected officials will question the President’s intentions on the pending war with Iraq. Writers and broadcasters friendly to the Democratic cause have already been provided talking points suggesting the war is about oil, not terrorism. “The talking points were developed before the end of last year and sent out to operatives and friendly media,” one Democratic consultant confided. “No Democratic member of Congress will question the President’s patriotism openly but we will use the media and other surrogates to raise doubts.”
Capitol Hill Blue obtained a copy of the talking points when the Democratic National Committee sent them to a news outlet recently acquired by CHB’s parent company. The talking points outline a strategy to raise public doubts of the President’s real intentions, including: --Saying the war is about oil and will be fought to benefit oil companies that have long supported Bush and the Republican party;

--Claiming the Bush administration has “manufactured” evidence against Saddam Hussein and used that evidence to encourage Britain and other allies to join the American fight against Iraq; --Suggesting a wartime economy is the only way the administration can revive the country’s lagging economic situation.
“It is clear that the current approval ratings of the administration are tied directly to strong American feelings toward traditional values,” the talking points say. “To counter this, doubt must be raised as to America’s true position within the world community and the true intent of the Bush administration in waging war.”
Some Democrats admit privately they are uneasy with the party strategy to undermine American values in an attempt to get Bush. “My boss doesn’t want anything to do with it,” one senior Senate aide told Capitol Hill Blue on Monday. “You don’t undermine this country to win elections.” Others, however, are willing to try anything to put the White House and Congress back under Democratic control. “The real war isn’t in Iraq,” one Democratic consultant said. “It’s right here at home, at the ballot box in 2004.”
Among the other points Democrats hope to make in the coming weeks:
--Both President Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney are controlled by oil and defense industry special interest groups. --The war on terrorism is a failure because Osama bin Laden is still at large. --America is unprepared for another terrorist attack because of White House preoccupation with Iraq. --War will increase the country’s economic woes. --Bush will be forced to raise taxes to finance the war.
“It’s time to take the battle to the people and make them understand just how dangerous George W. Bush’s policies are to the future of America,” the talking points conclude. Democratic sources say the talking points were developed by Democratic Chairman Terry McAuliffe, former Clinton campaign strategist James Carville, Senate Majority Leader Daschle and former House Democratic Leader Gephardt. “This is a classic, Jim Carville, scorched earth campaign,” crows one DNC staffer. “Take no prisoners. That’s how you win elections.” Democratic party spokesmen would not return phone calls seeking comment on this report.
- "Dems Plan to Undermine America to Beat Bush," by Doug Thompson, CapitolHillBlue, January 6, 2003
113 posted on 03/20/2007 6:50:13 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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To: piasa

jeeez louise....I feel like I have been hit in the stomach after reading that.

Thanks for posting it...


114 posted on 03/20/2007 7:16:00 PM PDT by Txsleuth (I don't know who I am voting for yet...just window shopping.)
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To: piasa

bookmark


115 posted on 03/20/2007 7:53:59 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: piasa

Wow. I remember the Doug Thompson/Wilkerson source business very well. But whoever or wherever that came from, it has turned out to be incredibly accurate.

It's really amazing.


116 posted on 03/20/2007 7:54:37 PM PDT by Sam Hill
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To: piasa
“My boss doesn’t want anything to do with it,” one senior Senate aide told Capitol Hill Blue on Monday. “You don’t undermine this country to win elections.” Others, however, are willing to try anything to put the White House and Congress back under Democratic control."

Sourcing problems aside (yes, he is a dishonest sleazeball), Doug Thompson has been closely connected with the Demagogues and this info corresponds closely with what they actually proceeded to do. The Demagogic scum have succeeded in wrecking this nation and it's time to fight back!
117 posted on 03/21/2007 10:11:59 AM PDT by Enchante (Joe Wilson: "DUH...What do you mean there is uranium smuggling from DR Congo?")
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To: Sam Hill

These folks, demonrats, are so stupid. Don't they KNOW that every word they say is recorded somewhere? I can't believe their collective stupidity.


118 posted on 03/21/2007 10:17:47 AM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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To: Marysecretary

What does it matter when no one in the Dept. of Justice, WH, Congress, Drive-By Media, or any other American institution has the honesty and fortitude to hold the Demagogues to account. Yes, we hear blather all the time about "accountability" but the concept is only applied to fatuous non-scandals that can be used against Republicans.

Don't hold your breath expecting scum like Valerie Plame and Joe Wilson to be held to any standard of accountability. It won't happen.


119 posted on 03/21/2007 11:03:49 AM PDT by Enchante (Joe Wilson: "DUH...What do you mean there is uranium smuggling from DR Congo?")
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To: Enchante

Don't worry, I won't bet the farm on anything in our government anymore. It's very sad to see the downward spiral in morals and accountability.


120 posted on 03/21/2007 11:18:03 AM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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