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A Gun Ban America Needs
Pajamas Media ^ | October 4, 2007 | Joseph Myers

Posted on 11/12/2007 8:42:50 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

America needs a gun ban.

Yes, a ban that denies possession, transfer and ownership of firearms.

I say that as a gun owner myself. I say this as a strong defender of the Second Amendment to the Constitution. I say it with the belief the Second Amendment empowers American citizens to defend their sacred honor, their homes and families and to help “defend the Constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic.”

It is the phrase “all enemies foreign and domestic” that leads me to endorse a gun ban.

The Second Amendment is clear:

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed. By “people” is meant the citizens of these United States and here is the crux of my gun ban:

“No person who is not a citizen of the United States or is an agent, or member of an organization that is an agent, of a foreign power or potentate or is reasonably believed to be engaged or about to engage in international terrorist or international narcotics activities, shall have the right to possess, transfer, keep, hold, or train with any form make and model of firearm.”

That is a gun ban I think America needs – a ban on illegal immigrants, terrorists or insurgents owning guns.

This ban would make it a criminal act for a foreign national or resident member of a terrorist organization to possess a firearm in the United States. It would make it unlawful for members of known drug trafficking organizations to possess or train with firearms in America. It means that clandestine members of the Muslim Brotherhood, naturalized or not, who are in America for the purpose of “civilizational jihad” and who are members of a self-declared “transnational global jihad” movement, who constitute in fact, words and deeds an insurgency in America, will not be legally allowed to own possess and train with firearms—which their own internal documents indicate they have been doing in “Ikhwan camps” across America. Americans legally charged with being a member of this “threat organization” who have had any encounter with a firearm will have violated US laws.

This ban would make it unlawful for illegal aliens to own, possess, hold or transfer a firearm. That would mean that the Virginia Tech shooter, Cho Seung-Hui, who massacred 32 students, would not have been legally able to purchase the firearms he used in those killings. It would mean that Jose Carranza the illegal immigrant from Peru and two accomplices, who executed the four college students in Newark, N.J., already committed a crime by the mere possession of firearms. They would not have legally been allowed to buy their guns.

Yes, this is a gun ban America needs and the National Rifle Association, an organization that I support, should champion this ban.

The NRA exists for the right of American citizens to own firearms—not to advance the sales of the firearms industry. The NRA exists to defend America and America needs this gun ban for its defense.

The Second Amendment to the Constitution exists to defend Americans and American civilization and our very Constitution against threats foreign and domestic. It should never be construed to allow illegal aliens to be armed to murder our citizens or to arm transnational criminal and terrorist organizations and foreign insurgencies like the Muslim Brotherhood.

This is a gun ban that people and policymakers all across the political spectrum can agree is needed.

I say guns for American citizens and no one else—not illegal aliens, not terrorist and drug traffickers or members of the global jihad seeking the overthrow of my country.

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Joseph Myers is a firearms owner. He recommends loyal American citizens possess quality assault weapons for homeland defense.


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; aliens; alqaeda; banglist; crime; criminalaliens; democratparty; democrats; deportation; election; elections; gop; guncontrol; illegalaliens; illegalimmigrants; illegalimmigration; illegals; immigrantlist; immigrants; immigration; islam; islamofascism; jihad; jihadists; migrants; militia; mohammedsminions; muslimbrotherhood; muslims; nra; republicans; rtkba; terror; terrorism; terrorists; wheresthefence
Interesting idea. Comments?
1 posted on 11/12/2007 8:42:51 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“The Second Amendment to the Constitution exists to defend Americans and American civilization and our very Constitution against threats foreign and domestic. It should never be construed to allow illegal aliens to be armed to murder our citizens or to arm transnational criminal and terrorist organizations and foreign insurgencies like the Muslim Brotherhood.”

Big time Second Ammendment Bump


2 posted on 11/12/2007 8:56:36 PM PST by PROCON
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

An interesting proposition..


3 posted on 11/12/2007 9:32:56 PM PST by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Thet are already legally precluded from owning firearms. But, just as they ignore our other laws, they ignore that one, as well.


4 posted on 11/12/2007 10:37:36 PM PST by ought-six ("Give me liberty, or give me death!")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
...or is reasonably believed to be engaged or about to engage in international terrorist or international narcotics activities...

To Hillary KKKlintler, that's you and me...

5 posted on 11/12/2007 11:22:02 PM PST by damondonion
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
“transnational global jihad” movement, who constitute in fact, words and deeds an insurgency in America, will not be legally allowed to own possess and train with firearms—which their own internal documents indicate they have been doing in “Ikhwan camps”

Why haven't we heard more about this? Wait...don't answer, it's a Religion of Peace.

Still, I don't do gun bans. They remain the great equalizer. Sadly though, voting with bullets too eerily imitates the mob-o-cracy touted by the Left. More bullets (votes) equals more influence in shaping society.

Fewer bullets ought never translate into fewer rights. Of course, the authoritarian/fascist Left will never buy into this concept. "Power to the Police State" is their motto.

6 posted on 11/12/2007 11:22:23 PM PST by budwiesest (Democracy: Where the desires* of the many out-weigh the rights of the many.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Inane. Not much could be more useless than a ban on criminals having firearms. It only adds one more charge when they are arrested for committing a crime.


7 posted on 11/13/2007 3:41:24 AM PST by arthurus (Better to fight them OVER THERE than to have to fight them OVER HERE!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It risks depriving many citizens of their gun rights when a Clinton Administration defines NRA as a terrorist organization. Under Clinton pro-life groups were so termed.


8 posted on 11/13/2007 3:42:39 AM PST by arthurus (Better to fight them OVER THERE than to have to fight them OVER HERE!)
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To: arthurus
That was the first thing I was thinking. The NRA, Legion, VFW, state weapons/guns club - they are all just a president’s signature away from being labeled a terrorist organization.
9 posted on 11/13/2007 3:53:56 AM PST by PeteB570 (Guns, what real men want for Christmas)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Already in place.
...see how useful it is?


10 posted on 11/13/2007 5:14:02 AM PST by ctdonath2 (The color blue tastes like the square root of 0?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I guess my posting history would label me as a terrorist, so no guns fer me eh? Like another law would stop me IF I wanted to do something [murder, rape, robbery, overthrow the gubmint...] already illegal!!!
11 posted on 11/13/2007 5:20:58 AM PST by Gilbo_3 (A few Rams must look after the sheep 'til the Good Shepherd returns...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
That is a gun ban I think America needs – a ban on illegal immigrants, terrorists or insurgents owning guns.

Yea, one more law that the lawbreakers won't obey.

Fuggit about it. We don't need no steenking bans.

If gun owners supported such a ban, the gun grabbers would just use that as evidence that "banning undesirables from owning guns is OK. Then they'd begin to broaden the definition of "undesirable", until it encompassed anyone "paranoid" enough to want to own a firearm.

12 posted on 11/13/2007 5:16:12 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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Joseph Myers is a firearms owner. He recommends loyal American citizens possess quality assault weapons for homeland defense

Assault or Battle rifles would be better. Along with as many .50 BMG rifles for those who can afford to own and feed them.

13 posted on 11/13/2007 5:19:12 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: El Gato
"Battle rifles would be better."

After I had heard my congressman talking about some money he wanted wasted for Homeland Security, I had sent a letter suggesting that if he were serious he would work up a bill granting access to military grade weapons and gear, cost covered by tax deductions, to those who were part of the unorganized militia.

Needless to say, I never heard back from him...

14 posted on 11/13/2007 9:19:31 PM PST by gnarledmaw (It serves always to distract the public councils and enfeeble the public administration.)
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