Posted on 07/12/2008 9:24:08 AM PDT by Raquel
So where was he born and how do you know he was born there?
I do know that many people who have a very strong practical interest in his citizenship status (DNC, Edwards, Clinton, Biden, etc) checked it all out VERY thoroughly months ago, (their OPO Research budget was probably $750,000 to $1,250,000 EACH) and had there been an issue, they would have been screaming it from the rooftops.
If RNC knew, they would probably have tried to sit on it until after the D national convention, but it would have leaked (everything does.)
Please see my #100.
Let's concentrate on the real issues.
PS, God forbid he ISN'T a citizen! If he was disqualified, then we get Hillary in the General, and she would be much harder to beat.
Obama is another Dukakis or McGovern. The DNC has again allowed their far-left primary system to nominate a far-left candidate who will get buried in the General!
Be well
I doubt the DNC checked it out. The fact the Obama campaign hasn’t killed this issue is very telling. He can’t afford any more distractions like this. They worked so hard to kill the Muslim thing and now they are letting this fester? It doesn’t make sense.
The Obama campaign has been devastated by viral rumoring. They have refused to allow a 3rd party to close the matter. That makes me really suspicious. Can you imagine what the media would have done if GW Bush had released Photoshopped, redacted images of his National Guard records?
Trust me, that's not how the system works. The “interest sheet” for a person considering running for Congress runs about 24 pages! It's about the same data needed to start a TS/Omega. They spend somewhere between $750,000 to $1,250,000 per candidate.
>>>The fact the Obama campaign hasn’t killed this issue is very telling. He can’t afford any more distractions like this. They worked so hard to kill the Muslim thing and now they are letting this fester? It doesn’t make sense.
This has NO legs anywhere but here on the net. And, it only has legs among those who would never vote for him anyway. Why should they waste time. Let the distraction live.
Finally, the Muslim thing v. natural citizenship is a very different issue. The all important swing voters might move away from him on the Muslim issue, but on the citizenship issue, any person who is going to vote for him because of his promise of “free money,” (that's what it boils down to) isn't going to let some (what they would say is) “some little technicality” stand in their way.
Among the “give me everything for free” crowd, Con Law is not a big thing!
Yeah but Obama doesn’t need to sway those voters. You add “Maybe he’s a foriegner” to that Muslim thing and you got trouble with the swing voters.
And the Muslim thing was a Net thing too.
I understand what you’re saying. But the MSM is not publishing or broadcasting information about his political actions.
McCain has made many trips to Iraq and Afghanistan. No news anchors - ABC, CBS, NBC - followed him around, hanging on every word. Obama presently has an entourage that includes those news anchors. Gosh, no bias there, UNH!
Last night I found an article about Obama and Kenya. This article stated that he has dual citizenship - U.S. and Kenya. Why not politicize that?
I haven’t heard a word about it, not from the radio talk shows, the cable channels, or the print media. Sometimes I doubt journalists are actually doing their jobs. Then I remember the news reporters killed investigating the fiscal ties between Occidental Petroleum and the Gore family in Tennessee; today people investigating Obama’s past have received death threat.
My computer has been repeatedly hacked and my hard drives mapped, the data sent off to a government IPO in Washington, D.C. I sincerely doubt that it is the Bush Administration investigating little old me. More likely it is the same folks who threatened to kill the family of the man who had posted an online petition for Obama to release his BC, or the people who left a dead animal hanging on the front door of the guy who analysed the Certificate of Live Birth and declared it a forgery.
If it wasn’t important, Sir, why would the Obamatistas go to such lengths when it could land them a long prison term. The Federal statutes for violating someone’s civil rights have substantial penalties, I believe.
As you can tell, I don’t think I’m wasting my time.
I’m sorry to seem so rude, but do you have one iota of legally sustainable proof that any of this happened?
Computers hacked, dead animals, death threats.
Quite frankly, it all seems to be delusional rantings to me.
Yeah. We reported the hacking to the FBI. It seems a shadow server was operating behind the one here at FreeRepublic. We also contacted McAffee and FR.
The death threats towards someones family? Well, that is their responsibility to report it to authorities. Same goes for “techdude”. I guess he should be glad it wasn’t a decapitated horse head in his bed!
Well gosh I have some difficulty reading 8 USC Sec. 1401--could you help me out. Which provisions are you talking about? How does it work. These legal issues are a little complicated and we could use a real attorney to help us figure them out.
Thanks.
“I’m an attorney. Trust me on this one.”
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!
The problem is, that's NOT what the woman in the interview says. She says “I can remember when she came to visit one afternoon when Barry was just FEW weeks old.” She says NOTHING about him being THREE weeks old. She says a FEW weeks.
To her, a few could have been two weeks old, or 20 weeks old.
The problem again, is people depending on what one person says another person said, and when you investigate, you learn they did NOT say that at all.
The interview is Susan Blake. The best timing fix is her extensive and clear description--"Stanley hadn't learned to change diapers yet; I had to tell her, Babies do this so you have to get the technique down." Mothers get it together pretty fast--like first week after birth mostly, even if they haven't studied it or been shown by pals.
Susan says the event was in the last half of August. And that Stanley Ann was on her way to visit Obama Sr. in Boston where he was attending school at Harvard.
Fact is that Obama Sr. was not in Boston in August 1961. He went to Harvard in August, 1962, a year later. Long after Stanley Ann would have learned to change diapers.
And Seattle is not exactly a way stop from Honolulu to Boston either.
Access from Kenya to the Western US is by British Overseas Airline--schedules for the airline in July-September of 1961 are posted on the main Born In Kenya thread confirming that the routing from Kenya would be from Nairobi to Glaskow to Vancouver BC. As I know from personal experience in the period, most people on a trip from British Africa to the Western US used ground transportation from Vancouver to Sea Tac; the Mercer Island stop was on the way to Sea Tac to get a return flight to Honolulu from Kenya.
Even Art Bell wouldn't go with this (Sorry, Art.)
Stop. Think. if there was anything to this, would the hundreds of investigators hired by the DNC, RNC, Hillary, Biden, Edwards, etc have found it.
I am off this ridiculousness.
When we found the falsity in the Bush-Rather documents, we brought respoect to FR. This simply retelling what every other nut job with a computer is posting elsewhere is costing us any reputation we had.
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