Posted on 08/23/2008 2:20:44 PM PDT by pharmamom
Human life may begin at conception (gotta love Peggy Noonan in the WSJwhat do they think it is, a 1948 Buick?), but according to Alan Colms, personhood is not achieved until a child exits the birth canal alive and in accordance with its mothers wishes. This is eerily suggestive of Peter Singers assertion that babies (alive, out-of-the-uterus, breathing on their own, pooping, crying infants) do not truly have personhood for several months after birth, and that therefore, such non-person human beings may be terminated at the will of the parents.
Claiming to know when to assign the status of person to a human being is beyond arrogance and hubris. We need a better word than merely dangerous to apply here. If we can decide when to certify a baby as a person, then we can equally decide to de-certify any individual. Im so sorry, Mrs. Burdentosociety, we have withdrawn your status as person. You are now merely a human life form and therefore not worthy of continuance in this plane of existence. At what point will mere inconvenience become reason to define a person down to only a human being, and therefore extinguishable?
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A lot of people attempt to disguise their evil beliefs as being more complex, more nuanced, something that requires more intelligence to understand.
Noonan’s best line is..
“Anyone who ever bought a pack of condoms knows when life begins”
If one is an atheistic, materialistic, naturalistic,evolutionistic secular humanist, then one will have a relativistic morality and there will no agreement when a human being is or is not a person.
I wish I knew what makes educated and otherwise intelligent people cling to idiotic philosophies such as liberalism. I realize that experience in the real world has a bearing on this, but I know people with such experience that insist on voting democRatic and proudly call themselves liberal.
I used to think liberalism is a mental disease, but that insults people who actually have mental diseases. I’m thinking these days that it’s simply what our grandparents told us about the difference between “book learning” and “common sense,” and the amazing things that people - with or without the former and none of the latter - can do and say.
Clicked to soon. By the way, Alan, Hitler didn’t think Jews were humans deserving any kind of rights, either.
I check out H & C every now and then. Allan has really gone over the top with this election. I’ve noticed some of the regular guests have grown impatient with his liberal stance. Even Dick Morris looks at him like he’s an idiot and says, “Allan, we’ve already had this discussion”. Not a fan of Morris, but good for him. Colmes and Bob Beckel were practically frothing at the mouth last week while defending BO’s infanticide. Fox says they’re fair and balanced but they should let Colmes go. But, they’d probably give the spot to Kirstin Powers. She is the epitiome of an arrogant liberal.
Ping.
If we can decide when to certify a baby as a person, then we can equally decide to de-certify any individual. Im so sorry, Mrs. Burdentosociety, we have withdrawn your status as person. You are now merely a human life form and therefore not worthy of continuance in this plane of existence.
At what point will mere inconvenience become reason to define a person down to only a human being, and therefore extinguishable?
When you examine the pedigree of their ideas, what you come to understand is that the abortion issue is one of the keystones to devaluing human life. This is something that is implicit in the ideology of the Left; it’s cast into their philosophical DNA.
Humans are things.
That the essence of it. Humans are fungible and ultimately disposable “assets”.
This is why you’ve got the likes of Margaret Sanger and Dr. Peter Singer doing their damndest to move the goalposts when it comes to defining life and humanity. Singer, for example, has argued that infants up to 28 months old don’t really have any cognitive ability that defines them as human beings. So it’s OK to ‘terminate’ them if the parent (or really, the State) so chooses.
Who lives, who dies. That’s the power they seek. They are all monsters, monsters from the deepest dark heart of of our existence and history is replete with the outcomes and the evidence of their sick Utopian ideas.
History also tells us what we must do to deal with them.
Carry it to the next step. “Personhood” is something conferred by Society or The State and doesn’t happen until one’s 16th or 18th or 21st birthday. And the next step- personhood is conferred when the person reaches the official age and shows proper development. Next step- revoking of personhood for those found unworthy of it.
this is not about when life begins. Life began when “God said...” or when the first protovirus precipitated out of the primeval ooze. An individual person’s particular life begins at conception.
The concept is the same for the Left. Some human beings can be properly disposed of or used by society for the benefit of other human beings. That is especially what foetal stem cell research is all about as it so far has shown no progress at all while adult and umbilical stem cell research are making gains by leaps and bounds. It is all par of building New Soviet Man.
There is no “So sorry...” to it. It will be a bureaucratic decision and will have no more emotional content than the purchase of a box of screws or the tossing of a used Kleenex into the wastebasket.
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