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People Listening to Mainstream Media and Not to McCain: Conservative Media Lagging Badly
Bloggers and Personal ^ | 6 Oct 08 | Xzins

Posted on 10/06/2008 7:40:52 AM PDT by xzins

There is nothing that proves the bulk of America is getting their news from MSM sources like recent polling proves it. Obama has jumped up to a 6 point lead over McCain, and the electoral vote has started to slide in the direction of a man who is a virtual unknown.

McCain's low polling began with the financial fiasco.

The truth is that there's no good reason to hang this on McCain any more than on Obama. Both are Senators. The Senate has been in democrat hands for a while now and never firmly in Republican hands. Additionally, there is plenty of reason to associate the mortgage, Fannie, Freddie, and securities problems with liberal democratic decisions and liberal democratic leaders.

Another truth is that there is no legitimate reason to question McCain's assertion that the fundamentals of the economy are not strong. All the numbers are below or at the averages for the last 50 years.

There is no more reason to see McCain's suspending his campaign and coming to Washington DC in the midst of this debacle from the Obama viewpoint as from the McCain viewpoint. But the people are seeing it from the Obama perspective.

They've picked up the soundbites from the media and they are parroting those instead of the points raised by the McCain camp.

The Palin/Biden debate is a case study that proves the impact of the mainstream media. At its most rational, one could say that the Palin/Biden debate was a series of points/counterpoints that ended up with no damage done by either side. In retrospect, the phony facts used by Biden should be blaring from the headlines of every news organization in the nation. They are not and they will not. The distortions and misrepresentations of Biden were pulled out of thin air by a master of the calmly delivered, even if inaccurate, comment.

It's an overworn comment, but if Palin had done the same, she would be getting nailed to some tree on the hill Gol"Gotcha" near Washington, D.C.

In commentary immediately after the debate there was the belief that Palin had held her own. By the time the mainstream pundits had pontificated, the liberal spinmeisters had been given their free airtime, and the Obama surrogates had made their decrees, American polling land was concluding that Biden had won the debate hands down.

Whatever the McCain camps hopes for getting their side of the message out, it came to naught. The polls are worse today than they were on Friday. There was no debate bump.

What should McCain do to get this back to an even race?

He has decided, finally and too late, to bring up Obama's suspicious, socialist/anarchist associations. The media will carry the Obama responses and not those of McCain. How McCain talks the Limbaughs, Hannities, and Ingrahams of the radio world to stay at their microphones even on Fridays and weekends until the election is over is up to him. It would help if he found a way to do it. There are no weekends off for those who are interested in victory, and these radio pros should realize that by now.

In one sense, the best opportunity for McCain is Tuesday night. He gets to speak to a large portion of the electorate in this second debate with Obama. There is no leeway. McCain must be so convincing that it cannot be spun by the media. (It would help if Obama would make a major error, but that's not likely. Obama will be in his prevent defense.)

Moreover, though, McCain must decide now to take a chance on a huge expenditure of funds to run some nationwide advertisements. They must be knockout, shocking, mind-capturing ads akin to the infamous "Daisy Ad."

McCain must land on Obama the same firestorm that engulfed the last Arizonan to run for president. Paybacks truly should be hell.


TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: 2008; elections; mccain; mccainpalin; mediabias; msm
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1 posted on 10/06/2008 7:40:53 AM PDT by xzins
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To: xzins

The exguity in which the MSM covers up their obvious bias toward Obama is shocking!!


2 posted on 10/06/2008 7:43:35 AM PDT by NellieMae (Here...... common sense,common sense,common sense,where'd ya go... common sense......)
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To: xzins

Mccain like Sarah has done recently has to speak directly to the American public with the facts, he has them, is for some reason unwilling to play hard dirty politics, the ball is in his court.


3 posted on 10/06/2008 7:43:49 AM PDT by pennboricua
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To: xzins

Had McCain spoken *against* the bailout ... this election would be over already ...


4 posted on 10/06/2008 7:46:50 AM PDT by so_real ("The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: xzins

...which all brings up the philosophical question.

If the liberals/socialists/secular-progressives control the information propaganda apparatus - are we truely free?

Sure, freethinking cynics can think through the propaganda. But our fate is determined by the majority of the sheeple who don’t.

Anybody else getting as depressed as me about the futility of taking on the media in a crucial election. I hope i’m overreacting, but I don’t think I am.


5 posted on 10/06/2008 7:47:37 AM PDT by rbmillerjr ("There is a PoliticalSurge coming")
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The only real answer has always been for someone to buy one of those major networks. I would have thought we were past that by now, but even the cable is decidedly liberal. FoxNews has the greatest share of conservative viewpoints, but they go to great pains to “balance” the other viewpoints. Therefore, about 50% of what you get out of Fox represents pure, unadulterated Democrat talking points.


6 posted on 10/06/2008 7:55:03 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain Pro Deo et Patria)
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To: pennboricua

His message is not getting out to the majority of people. Sure, we hear it if we listen to Fox or to talk radio, but that’s a small percentage of the electorate.

McCain needs to find a way around the media. It’s going to cost him money.


7 posted on 10/06/2008 8:06:22 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain Pro Deo et Patria)
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How McCain talks the Limbaughs, Hannities, and Ingrahams of the radio world to stay at their microphones even on Fridays and weekends until the election is over is up to him. It would help if he found a way to do it. There are no weekends off for those who are interested in victory, and these radio pros should realize that by now.

I've been thinking this for a while now: no guest hosts, no 'best of' shows, and do whatever it takes to be heard on weekends.

Memo to Rush, Hannity, etc. you have a personal stake in defeating the 'Rats this time. Restoring the Fairness Doctrine will be one of the first things on President Obama's agenda, and he can do it with a stroke of the pen that appoints his lackeys to the FCC commission.

Obama has already shown complete contempt for political speech he doesn't like: witness the attempts to shut down 527 ads about Ayres and co. and veiled threats to pull station licenses for radio stations that present anti-Obama comments.

8 posted on 10/06/2008 8:15:51 AM PDT by bassmaner (Hey commies: I am a white male, and I am guilty of NOTHING! Sell your 'white guilt' elsewhere.)
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I’ve never before seen the left wing media more aggresively campaign for a candidate than this MSM is campaigning for Obama.

The media is pulling out the stops, McCain MUST do the same or he’ll lose.


9 posted on 10/06/2008 8:18:52 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: bassmaner

You are absolutely right.

Working for a month straight is not all that unusual. Happens all the time in the military and in industry.

Just consider it your busy season. This really is no time for these folks to be taking off.

It hurt badly after the Friday debate by McCain to have to wait until Monday for those folks to weigh in. It was over by then.


10 posted on 10/06/2008 8:28:36 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain Pro Deo et Patria)
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To: 1Old Pro

I find it laughable that McCain is being the one nailed for negative campaigning.

What exactly has SNL, the View, MSNBC been?

What about all the personal comments about McCain and Palin?


11 posted on 10/06/2008 8:31:40 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain Pro Deo et Patria)
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The media is going 24/7 attacking McCain.

I laugh when they attack McCain for going “negative” buy tallking the truth about Ayers/Obama.

The Obama defenders say the people want to hear about the “issues” and then instead of talking about the issues they play the SNL skit mocking Palin over and over and over.


12 posted on 10/06/2008 8:33:42 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: 1Old Pro

Yeah, and now we get to see an expanded version of that SNL skit in prime time.

The best kind of propaganda is not the overt news but the subtle propaganda that is spread in culture: comedy, film, etc.


13 posted on 10/06/2008 8:43:35 AM PDT by rbmillerjr ("There is a PoliticalSurge coming")
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>>>McCain needs to find a way around the media. It’s going to cost him money.<<<

Where do you suggest he spend that money. It's a bit late in the campaign to start figuring out a new strategy.

McCain spent too long trying to be liked, portraying his bi-partsian approach, rather than directly attacking Obama's flawed character and experience from the outset.

We on the right have known for years (at least 40) that the MSM is biased. Much has been made of the "new media", internet blogs and talk radio as a solution to the "visibility" problem.

Hasn't happened - the left, the middle and much of the center right still get their news from the traditional TV outlets and daily newspapers. Turns out the new media is useful to preach to the choir.....it reaches few of the ones we need to convert or influence to the right.

To get any attention, McCain will have to come up with an undisputable fact about Obama's character that defies the MSM blackout on facts surrounding Obamas history.

I haven't got a clue.....wish I did.

14 posted on 10/06/2008 9:07:42 AM PDT by HardStarboard ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule - Mencken knew Obama)
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To: xzins

The MSM should have been dealt with after their brazen part in the 06 election. There was plenty of time but now it is almost too late. As long as people are watching MSM and Hollywood they are being manipulated to react, think and feel in certain ways. Hollywood & media makes their money doing this. They’re pushing junk food for the soul and a steady diet of it only makes the population more dependent, more malleable, more receptive to MSM’s influences. Why conservatives are so blind to the media’s biased role and Democrat hatred — the years of Bush bashing — is beyond me. Offering bipartisanship to the Democrats just shows how tepid and out of touch they are. The GOP has to get a GRIP on reality... maybe losing this election is the big wake up call.


15 posted on 10/06/2008 9:15:15 AM PDT by Blind Eye Jones
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The only real answer has always been for someone to buy one of those major networks.

Oh, boy!!

Then we'll only by outnumbered 2 to 1 instead of 5 to 1! :-)


16 posted on 10/06/2008 9:36:40 AM PDT by Polybius
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To: HardStarboard
Where do you suggest he spend that money.

I already did. If the MSM is the only one reaching the people, he has to pay the MSM for nationwide buys to at least get heard with the people who are listening to them.

But, whatever he buys must be nuclear explosive. You don't spend that kind of time and planning on something about how McCain is a really nice guy who likes babies and tiny kittens.

17 posted on 10/06/2008 9:37:31 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain Pro Deo et Patria)
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To: Blind Eye Jones; Polybius

Conservatives either find a fully functional alternative to the mainstream media or America will be fully socialist within a decade and probably have a dictatorship of the proletariat within 3 decades.


18 posted on 10/06/2008 9:48:36 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain Pro Deo et Patria)
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Whats it called, the fair doctrine act? Obama and the Democrat controlled congress will pass it easily and remove conservative talk radio people like Rush and Levin off the air. I believe Internet websites like this one will not be safe from the Marxist rule to come.
19 posted on 10/06/2008 10:07:30 AM PDT by kempo
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The only real answer has always been for someone to buy one of those major networks. .... xzins

Oh, boy!! Then we'll only by outnumbered 2 to 1 instead of 5 to 1! :-) ... Polybius

Conservatives either find a fully functional alternative to the mainstream media or America will be fully socialist within a decade and probably have a dictatorship of the proletariat within 3 decades. ... xzins

The way the odds are now, we need to buy TWO of the major networks just to make the odds even on the TV news front.

Considering that the Sheeple also get their politics at movie theaters and on Netflix nowadays, we need to play the Hollywood game, too.

Like this:

An American Carol (A Conservative Comedy That Will Keep You Laughing - Debbie Schlussel Review)

Link to First Ten Minutes of the Movie

20 posted on 10/06/2008 10:22:44 AM PDT by Polybius
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