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Still NO birth certificate? (Scorecard)
America Must Know ^

Posted on 11/12/2008 4:41:05 PM PST by Smokeyblue

The United States Constitution

The Constitution of the United States of America specifies that the President of the United States must be a 'natural born' citizen. Barak Obama has NOT produced a certified copy of his ORIGINAL 1961 birth certificate that was prepared at the time of birth.

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An Abstract? All he has produced is a laser printed ABSTRACT that was printed out on June 6, 2007. This abstract is just a summary of what Hawaii has on their computers. There is MORE information relevant to the matter on the ORIGINAL 1961 long form birth certificate.


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: arrogance; bc; birthcertificate; certifigate; certigate; colb; narcisism; obama; obamagate; supremecourt; tyrants
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To: I_Like_Spam
Other documents besides the birth certificate could be used until recently.

How does anyone know that Obama actually had a passport? Maybe the other countries were willing to waive the requirement since they love him so much. Our country seems willing to waive Constitutional requirements for the Messiah it appears to me.

21 posted on 11/12/2008 5:26:09 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: BloodOrFreedom
Their citizenship was not under question.

The only people questioning Obama's citizenship are the handful of disgruntled keyboard commandos unable to accept that he won and that the American people gave a resounding, well-deserved vote of "no confidence" to the Republican Party.

Remember Sore/Loserman? That's what the BC people are looking like right now. It's really embarrassing.

Instead of chasing this "USSC will disqualify Obama and make McCain the president" pipe dream, maybe we need to clean our own house, figure out what went wrong, correct it and win future elections by offering a better alternative.

22 posted on 11/12/2008 5:26:29 PM PST by Drew68
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To: I_Like_Spam

>Mr. Obama has a United States passport.<

If you have enough cash, you can BUY a US passport anywhere in Europe or the Far East. What do you think is happening to the many US passports that disappear each day?


23 posted on 11/12/2008 5:27:50 PM PST by 353FMG
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To: Drew68

Well Drew, the BC issue has been going on for more than a year.
Barry will not produce this simple document, the question is why?


24 posted on 11/12/2008 5:34:22 PM PST by svcw (Great selection of gift baskets: http://baskettastic.com/)
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To: Drew68
Remember Sore/Loserman? That's what the BC people are looking like right now. It's really embarrassing.

Tough. Roger Calero made it onto several state's ballots as the socialist party presidential candidate and he admits to being a non citizen. Had he won the election would you be OK with that too?
25 posted on 11/12/2008 5:36:24 PM PST by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: little jeremiah

You’re preaching to the choir. Enough of this whining. Until someone with some authority authorizes a process to force Obama to produce a birth certificate he won’t - just like the 43 previous Presidents didn’t produce any “documentation”. We at the grassroots level have to channel this frustration into some legal or legislative process to force the issue. All previous Presidents had established family histories. A BC was not required. This is unprecented and requires an unprecented process which doesn’t exist. The very fact we even question a President being a natural born citizen is incredible to me.


26 posted on 11/12/2008 5:37:00 PM PST by plain talk
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To: Smokeyblue

So what happens if his blood type is not the blood type of the man himself? Could it be that the original Barry was buried shortly after birth and the current POTUS is an impostor from Kenya?


27 posted on 11/12/2008 5:38:39 PM PST by RockyMtnMan
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To: Gemsbok

Yes, 0Bama is not a legal candidate. But it does not matter - nobody in Washington, and no political official in any other jurisdiction will support the Constitution - it is a dead instrument.


28 posted on 11/12/2008 5:39:57 PM PST by GregoryFul
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To: plain talk

plain talk....you can make that statement over and over and over and over if you wan’t...the fact that you can’t prove it makes you a troll and troublemaker. Once again mr kos buddy...if one previous president can prove citizenship then your argument falls apart completely and we’re back to square one which is...why won’t obama produce a BC?


29 posted on 11/12/2008 5:46:11 PM PST by Doug TX
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To: plain talk
Neither did George W. Bush and 42 previous Presidents.

I'm not sure how you know this.

At least since 1933 the 20th Amendment has been in effect which seems to me to require the President-elect to have to "qualify." Certainly if I were President-elect, it would probably bother me less to produce my birth-cirtificate to "qualify" than it does to have to produce one here in NJ to get a Drivers' License. I would also be happy to provide evidence that I have resided here for more than 14 years.

ML/NJ

30 posted on 11/12/2008 5:50:16 PM PST by ml/nj
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To: svcw
Well Drew, the BC issue has been going on for more than a year.

And if there was any legitimacy to the issue, Hillary with her millions of dollars and army of investigators at her disposal would have crushed Obama over it. If there was one thing the Clintons were good at, it was finding dirt on their enemies. They just happened to overlook that Hillary's most formidable opponent might not be a native born citizen? I'm not buying it and neither is anyone else save for a small handful of conspiracy theorists on the internet.

31 posted on 11/12/2008 5:53:20 PM PST by Drew68
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To: Drew68
The only people questioning Obama's citizenship are the handful of disgruntled keyboard commandos unable to accept that he won and that the American people gave a resounding, well-deserved vote of "no confidence" to the Republican Party.

Maybe others should be questioning him considering the shroud of mystery that envelopes his past.

Instead of chasing this "USSC will disqualify Obama and make McCain the president" pipe dream, maybe we need to clean our own house, figure out what went wrong, correct it and win future elections by offering a better alternative.

Yes, we definitely need to better shape our own party to represent our desires, however, the Constitution states the requirements for the POTUS, and when confronted, Obama danced around the accusations and questions regarding his citizenship which raises questions as to his legitimacy.

We cannot have a president in office who does not hold an American citizen status. That is catastrophic to the nation and is a blatant breach of the Constitution. That cannot be allowed. We cannot compromise our beliefs and our most sacred-held tradition and document--the Constitution

32 posted on 11/12/2008 5:53:25 PM PST by BloodOrFreedom
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To: Drew68

Better alternative doesn’t matter if the Constitution is worthless, foreign illegal donations have a blind eye turned towards them, ACORN and illegitimate votes ditto, the MSM continues to be nothing but prostitutes for the left. You could put the ideal conservative candidate against leftist slime and the chances are that the leftist slime might still win. It’s now a rigged game.

Plus, McCain Palin were a better alternative than Hussein. Not the best but certainly better. And now with Dems in charge, they can bend/break laws and make new ones to insure that they can continue to and increase fraud, lying and theft. They make the rulse and conservatives can continually lose.


33 posted on 11/12/2008 5:54:02 PM PST by little jeremiah (Leave illusion, come to the truth. Leave the darkness, come to the light.)
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To: I_Like_Spam
Mr. Obama has a United States passport.

Actually, right now, I would guess Obama has a Diplomatic Passport which is probably issued under very different rules from the ones you and I must comply with. But even if he only had an ordinary Passport, many people who are not Constitutionally eligible to be President can legally obtain a US Passport. My father was one such person.

ML/NJ

34 posted on 11/12/2008 5:55:53 PM PST by ml/nj
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To: Drew68

Your are way off base with the SoreLoserman reference. This man who was elected by 52% of this country has no backround. My gosh, he couldn’t get a job babysitting. If he has nothing to hide why not get the BC, it’s really easy to do. All of us have to produce our birth certificates at some point or another.

Is in not really creepy that he does not appear of have any friends that remember him growing up, nobody remembers him in college, everything is sealed? Yet if the press wanted to they could find out what kind of tooth paste Joe the Plummer uses.

Obama gives me chill bumps.


35 posted on 11/12/2008 6:13:09 PM PST by panthermom
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To: Drew68
All I know is David Souter has said Barry needs to produce the BC by Dec 1, 2008. Will he?
36 posted on 11/12/2008 6:13:32 PM PST by svcw (Great selection of gift baskets: http://baskettastic.com/)
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To: svcw

Um, no, justice Souter only required that Barry respond to the pleading by Dec1. The Obama stonewalling has not been addressed.


37 posted on 11/12/2008 6:20:36 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: plain talk

There is much, with regard to this election, that has seemed incredible to me.


38 posted on 11/12/2008 6:32:13 PM PST by MWestMom (Tread carefully, truth lies here.)
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To: I_Like_Spam

You don’t have to be a natural born citizen to get a passport.


39 posted on 11/12/2008 6:42:36 PM PST by TNoldman (Conservative Values FOREVER!)
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To: Frantzie
We knew everything about Bush, his grades, screw up and everything.

That's so true. There's even a movie. Minute details of his life. We also knew tidbits about Clinton, too.

40 posted on 11/12/2008 6:45:53 PM PST by fortunecookie
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