Posted on 12/08/2008 5:44:49 PM PST by Hang'emAll
(Washington, DC – 12/08/08) - Philip J. Berg, Esquire, the Attorney who filed suit against Barack H. Obama challenging Senator Obama’s lack of “qualifications” to serve as President of the United States today filed with the U.S. Supreme Court an Application for an Injunction to Stay the Electoral Votes on December 15, 2008 and prohibit V.P. Richard B. Cheney, the House of Representatives and the Senate counting any votes for Obama until Obama Proves he is “Qualified” to be President.
Berg filed this while waiting to hear if the U.S. Supreme Court will hear the Writ of Certiorari that he filed on October 30, 2008, requesting review of the United States District Court, Eastern District of Pennsylvania, Judge Surrick’s Dismissal of Philip J. Berg’s lawsuit against Barack H. Obama, Jr., the DNC and the other co-Defendants regarding “standing.”
Mr. Berg remarked today, “I know that Mr. Obama is not a constitutionally qualified natural-born citizen and is ineligible to assume the office of President of the United States.”
Berg continued, “Obama knows he is not ‘natural born’ as he knows where he was born and he knows he was adopted in Indonesia; Obama is an attorney, Harvard Law grad who taught Constitutional law; Obama knows his candidacy is the largest ‘hoax’ attempted on the citizens of the United States in over 200 years; Obama places our Constitution in a ‘crisis’ situation; and Obama is in a situation where he can be blackmailed by leaders around the world who know Obama is not qualified.”
If you're fully apprised of all of the facts of this issue, and know the basic constitutional qualifications for the office of President, then you cannot be a skeptic, and you cannot believe that nothing will come of this.
I've yet to run into anyone on these threads who is fully informed about this issue, who thinks "there's nothing to this", or that "this isn't going anywhere".
I never count Cleveland twice.
My point is that there is no statutory requirement and process for person that is elected president to prove that he is in fact natural born citizen nor is there a clear definition in the Constitution, legislation or case law of what qualifies one to be a natural born citizen.
The "COLB" you continuously defend on FR is a proven forgery, yet you continue to spread the lie that it's "proof" on nearly every thread about this subject.
You still haven't rebutted Ron Polarik's findings, but you did call him "an anonymous blogger".
You're a real hard working Obot, you know that? How much does Obama pay you to sow doubt at Free Republic anyway?
There is no evidence that the COLB is fake. Some anonymous guy posted some stuff on the internet claiming to be an expert. He never inspected the actual document, or provided proof of his expertise. That is hardly evidence of forgery.
If the document is indeed fake, the whole BC issue is irrelevant, Obama can be impeached and locked up for forgery. I doubt Obama would provide us all such a strong rope to hang him with.
The alleged "COLB" you keep defending is a proven FORGERY.
Stop spreading this lie on Free Republic.
The problem is, there's no proof that he was born ANYWHERE.
Sure, he was born, but WHERE?
Gotta have the vault copy of his original long form birth certificate to establish that, and Mr. Obama would rather spend $1,000,000.00 to keep it hidden from you, and everyone else on earth, than spend the $12 to produce an official copy.
Before you comment, you need to just read a good long while.
The answer to your question has been covered over and over here, and the fact that Obama, et al are spending vast sums of money to fight this issue has been well established by fact.
Apparently, you just signed up, so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt until I see you throw the next Obama defense out there.
Who is Ron Polarik?
What are his “expertise”?
Has he inspected the actual document?
Have his finding been verified by an independent document/forgery expert, preferably someone respected in the field?
If the COLB was proven a fraud, Obama would be in jail. It wasn’t so he isn’t. Seriously, call the cops on him right now if you know its fake.
And no Obama doesn’t pay me to argue with you, I am sure he has better ways to spend his money.
More lies from you, Obama operative Zarodinu.
Dr. Ron Polarik is NOT "anonymous", and he didn't post "some stuff on the internet". He posted a full forensic analysis of the digital images of Obama's alleged "COLB", both here, and on WorldNet Daily. And, yes, he is "qualified" to perform digital media analysis.
In addition to his work, you can search "Obama birth certificate" on YouTube and watch people show how such a document can be created in Photoshop. One video even exposes the Photoshop encoding buried in the Obama "COLB" which shows the exact date the document was constructed.
I'll say it again. You work for Obama, and are an agent provocateur. You've done nothing but defend Obama and his fraudulent COLB since you got here.
Again, you refuse to do the simple search for Ron Polarik on this website that I told you to do several times.
You are defending a forgery for Obama. You refuse to inspect the professional report which proves this, yet you continue to post assertions that Obama's JPEG COLB is real.
And no Obama doesn’t pay me to argue with you, I am sure he has better ways to spend his money.
Interesting defense. All you say is that he doesn't pay you to do what you're doing. But you don't refute that you're here working on his behalf, which is obvious to any regular here.
I guess Obama's spending too much on law firms to keep his records sealed, to pay you true believers.
Ron Polarik does not exist, he could be me for all you know. I see no proof of his expertise beyond your personal reassurance. He never inspected the original document. He anonymously posted some stuff on the internet saying the COLB was fake. His findings were never reviewed by any actual experts.
I am sorry but a YOUTUBE video is not exactly proof.
Well, I've pinged him to this post, so he can talk to you himself. And, you STILL have not read his report, have you? Until you do that, you're just blowing typical left-wing deflection at us.
I see no proof of his expertise beyond your personal reassurance. He never inspected the original document. He anonymously posted some stuff on the internet saying the COLB was fake.
Stop accusing Ron Polarik of posting "anonymously". It's a bald-faced lie.
You don't see the proof of Polarik's expertise because you haven't read his report, and you're not GOING to read his report, because that's not what you get paid to do, is it?
His findings were never reviewed by any actual experts.
Ron Polarik IS an expert, ya dope! Go read the report!
The guy is Dr. Ron Polarik, Freeper handle Polarik. He executed a pretty thorough forensic analysis of the images posted by Obama and his allies. One that I, with at least passing knowledge in the area, found to be credible enough to cast doubt on the authenticity of the document. By no means 'some anonymous guy.' As for his having never inspected the actual document, well, that is certainly true. The 'actual document' (depending on what the meaning of 'actual' is) never existed (according to the analysis). It was a forgery, cobbled together from scans with one or more image editors. Now, I won't make any claims to absolute certainty regarding Polarik's conclusions. But I will say that it isn't just anonymous bunk. And I am unaware of any credible refutation of Polarik's work.
I am reading it now (will take a while, this thing is pretty long). If it were indeed fake though, and could be verified as such, why not just have Obama arrested for forging documents? You don’t need to be natural born citizen to get locked up.
Fair enough. 42 men, 43 Presidents.
"My point is that there is no statutory requirement and process for person that is elected president to prove that he is in fact natural born citizen "
True.
"nor is there a clear definition in the Constitution, legislation or case law of what qualifies one to be a natural born citizen."
False. There are some who disagree that the meaning of 'natural born' is as simple as the dictionary definition, but the COTUS is clear in its lack of an alternative definition and consistency regarding 'born or naturalized' in the few places where it speaks of distinctions among citizens. There is specific US Law - Title 8 Section 1401 - as to who is a citizen at birth, and there are numerous SC cases that relate to the question (Kim Wong Ark, Perkins v. Elg, etc.)
How can he inspect a document that does not exist? Or, conversely, if you consider the electronic artifact that was presented on the Internet to be a document, then that is exactly what he did inspect.
"He anonymously posted some stuff on the internet saying the COLB was fake."
If it was anonymous, how do you know it was him? The guy that exposed C?BS! and Damn Blather's bogus Bush documents got shredded by the MSM, why should anyone expose themselves to such abuse? Polarik was just careful. He's 'gone public' at this point, claiming responsibility for his findings. You are the one currently anonymously posting stuff on the Internet.
"His findings were never reviewed by any actual experts."
He is an expert. Furthermore, I'll take a stand and say that I find his analysis credible. I have some background in this stuff, albeit dated, and until someone better than me shows up to discredit it, I say it has merit. Of course, I am also anonymously posting on the Internet. Read it for yourself.
Did Obama forge them? Did somebody forge them on his behalf? What did he know and when did he know it? When will the MSM exert enough pressure on him to force the issue (we know the answer to that question, at least)?
We are talking about the President-presumptive (not yet President-elect no matter how many fancy podiums he has) of the United States of America. How long did it take for Nixon's cover up of the Watergate break in (of which he had no prior knowledge and did not participate in the conspiracy) to catch up with him? How long did it take for Clinton's perjury to catch up with him? It is not as simple as calling the cops. The incoming Senate will never impeach him unless he chops the heads off of children on national tv, and then only if he drinks their blood. The police can't touch him and the military will be his to command per the COTUS. What's left?
Obama according to Title 8 Section 1401 was a citizen of the U.S. at birth.
(a) a person born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof;
d) a person born outside of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is a citizen of the United States who has been physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for a continuous period of one year prior to the birth of such person, and the other of whom is a national, but not a citizen of the United States;
If he was then he is. But he won't provide the proof.
"(d) a person born outside of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is a citizen of the United States who has been physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for a continuous period of one year prior to the birth of such person, and the other of whom is a national, but not a citizen of the United States;"
Obama's father was not a national of the US. He was a Kenyan (British) national resident in the US on a student visa. It is the 'one of whom is an alien' condition that applies. Obama's mother was too young to have met the residency requirements (10 years a resident, 5 after the age of 14, per the 1952 statute in effect at the time) because she was 18 years 8 months and 6 days old when Obama was born, leaving her several months short of the requirement, not even taking into account any travel during that time.
Okay, well then why is it that Chief Justice Roberts and Justices Scalia, Thomas and Alito do not see it that clearly and refused to hear the case?
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