Posted on 12/29/2008 9:36:02 PM PST by unspun
You have been provided the documentation of what natural born Citizen means. Those who write should first read.
Hawai’i is a liberal hell so any complicity with the affiramtive action candidate’s fraud is to be expected. Folks seem to think because Lingle is a Republican she will protect the law and Constitution. How was she eloected by such a liberal state if she is so conservative and lawfully inclined? The answewr is obvious, just like how Romeny was elected in liberal hell hole, Mass. They are not true conservatives. Lingle may also be compromised/blackmailable on issues of her sexual preferences. HI voters wouldn’t care about her sexual preferences, but blackmailers can use such things to great effect, like rpelacing simple documents witht he governor ‘looking the other way’.
To be more serious, if the exposure of this fraud is handled properly, it is black people who will be the most outraged at this lying perjuring defrauding prick who bilked them for millions to run his fraudulent campaign! Sadly, the media isn't likely to allow the full truth to come out in all the gory details and it will tear this nation apart for a short while. I only hope the media professional liars are destroyed along with buildings they infest.
The one thing the courts in Hawaii do not want is a cse where there is an allegation of the COLB being a forgery. The only way the other side can counteract it is to produce an actual certified copy of the long form to the court. They will do their best to keep that from ever happening.
“Conventional Wisdom” is NOT the law, as many, apparently including you, have yet to discover.
Folks like “plain talk” don’t care about learning. They only parrot what they think they know. You are wasting your time providing documentaton and analysis.
Then again, the worse the State SC’s behave, the more attention that tends to get from the SCOTUS (i.e., Bush v. Gore).
Donofrio knew this, but he may have played out early.
So if his father was Stalin, or Hitler, just because he was squeezed on US soil makes him one of US? I disagree.
Just shows the Hawaii courts,MSM,democrats,unwashed,idiots,ACORN are in the tank for Obama
I've also reiterated the point (as I am doing again ) that the intent and subsequent outcomes from the creation and distribution of a false identification document is still an act of fraud that will continue to exist as a chargeable offense, regardless of what transpires in Congress or the Judicial System.
The law is very clear on what constitutes the creation and use of a false identification document, and it matters not that the fraudulent document is in an electronic medium, given that electronic copies of a document, like faxes, can suffice as valid alternatives, if not for the long term, then certainly for the short term where the paper originals will still need to be provided. Even in the latter case, electronic copies are acceptable, in most cases, to begin legal or governmental procedures, and it's only when the evidence goes to the court that originals are required. An example of this is when I faxed, and also emailed as a PDF file, my Affidavit.
Consider also that this bogus COLB has been used to obstruct legal proceedings, and to stifle governmental investigations into Obama's true origins.
Yes, exactly.
Excellent point.
Thanks, excellent point. The laws are there but the bureaucrats and their courts just ignore them.
However, it looks like to me that all this case was, was an attempt to bar him from the ballot without attempting to get access to the vault copy of Obama's birth certificate.
In essence, this may have only been another Alan Keyes publicity stunt.
I'm beginning to believe that were being played for stupid.
Does Hawaii have a Freedom of Information Act? Why hasn't anyone made a request under it to the Hawaiian Department of Health for the vault copy? Such a decision would be reviewable by the courts if it is not granted?
Why hasn't anyone made a Freedom of Information Action (FOIA) request of the State Department for Barack Obama's passport file? That denial is certainly reviewable by the US District Court for DC or by the Federal District Court in which the citizen who made the request resides.
This is not going away after January 2009, come what may ever come.
One of these Obama non-citizenship cases is going to hit!
http://www.rallycongress.com/constitutional-qualification/1244
Numerous requests have been made. All denied. A lawsuit was filed with the state and was dismissed on the old standby "lack of standing ". There is a current lawsuit in Washington state that is trying to get the State of Washington to issue a subpoena to the State of Hawaii to release the records. So far the Sec of State of Washington is trying to block it.
Why hasn't anyone made a Freedom of Information Action (FOIA) request of the State Department for Barack Obama's passport file?
Berg did that in his initial filing of his case. The request was denied.
However, it looks like to me that all this case was, was an attempt to bar him from the ballot without attempting to get access to the vault copy of Obama's birth certificate.
No, this case was filed after the election. Under the statute he filed under, he would not have had standing until the election had taken place. He is currently in a case in California which is attempting to get access to the vault copy. This case would have been another way to get it. Since the state won't release it, if the court had accepted the case under the statute ( which they should have ), the allegation would have been the COLB he submitted online was a fraud. The only way the other side could defend that allegation would be to produce a certified vault copy of the BC to the court.
“...This is not going away after January 2009, come what may ever come.”
Your statement is the one of the few certainties regarding this BO ‘thingy’.
And, then when I would have found them to be actually "breast imprints or Jugs JPGs," they would have challenged it, demanded that I show them my credentials to prove that I am both an "expert in azz prints and Jugs JPGs" while they bring out their own "expert" to knock my knockers analyses.
You are correct in everything you said, except the one above. What will be reviewed by SCOTUS on Jan 9 and Jan 16 stems directly from the original suit against Obama and the DNC, filed by Berg on August 21, 2008. I have a complete timeline showing all of Berg's filings and the subsequent actions taken here:
You can best summarize the actions taken as follows:
As for what happens on or after Jan 8, I wrote about that in another post.
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