Posted on 01/27/2009 9:14:14 AM PST by nysuperdoodle
I always thought coaches got fired for losing. On the same day he sent an email refusing to apologize for his team's success, a Texas high school girls' basketball coach was terminated. The coach, Micah Grimes, of Dallas' Covenant School, had come under fire for winning a game 100-0, making national news.
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Technically speaking, what you said is false - you have "strings" in basketball just like you have in any other team sport [and even in many individual sports, like high school & college tennis].
However, as I indicated above, having learned that there were only 8 players on the team [5 starters + 3 subs], and having read the coach's statement [e.g. he pulled the full-court press after only 3 minutes, etc], if I had the chance, I would go back and delete most of my comments from this thread.
When I first started commenting on this thread, I was under the assumption that it involved a team with a full complement of 12 to 15 players, and that the coach had continued the full court press and the launching of the treys deep into the second half.
But apparently this was an absolutely bizarre scenario, involving two tiny little schools in an obscure intermural match-up which never should have gotten any national publicity.
The answer is YES.
“They are really good,” Civello(losing coach) said. “Their point guard is terrific. This is what it came down to in the second half: steal at half court and layup. Steal and layup. Steal and layup. It was a layup drill. They finally eased up when they got to 100 with about four minutes left.” Covenant’s point guard had 48 points.
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“On its website last week, Covenant, a private Christian school, posted a statement regretting the outcome of its Jan. 13 shutout win over Dallas Academy. “It is shameful and an embarrassment that this happened. This clearly does not reflect a Christ-like and honourable approach to competition,” said the statement, signed by Queal and board chair Todd Doshier.
Grimes, who has been criticized for letting the game get so far out of hand, made it clear in the e-mail Sunday to the newspaper that he does not agree with his school’s assessment.
“In response to the statement posted on The Covenant School website, I do not agree with the apology or the notion that the Covenant School girls basketball team should feel embarrassed or ashamed,” Grimes wrote in the e-mail, according to the newspaper. “We played the game as it was meant to be played. My values and my beliefs would not allow me to run up the score on any opponent, and it will not allow me to apologize for a wide-margin victory when my girls played with honor and integrity.” “
this excerpt is via AP
In my opinion, the coach probably broke his contract in one manner or another by contacting a newspaper with his disagreement of the school’s actions.
I live in the metroplex, and this is all we’ve been hearing about (other than obama) for a week. He was not immediately fired—only after he contacted the paper.
I don’t know if it’s right or wrong to fire him, but he did inflame and prolong the scandal b/c of his actions.
I’m more concerned about a lawsuit from the ACLU being that this coach is black.
In fairness to the coach, if there was a shot clock in this game, then he could have held the ball on the offensive end for only so long - as the shot clock was winding down, what should he have told his girls to do - refuse to put up a shot?
Obviously you would have to look at the game tape to get a sense of what his "strategy" was, but if there was a shot clock, then he would have had to have ordered his girls not to shoot as the shot clock was expiring, and that would be getting pretty deep into "soft bigotry of low expectations" territory.
I suppose he could have done that - it would be the equivalent of a football team taking repeated quarterback kneel-downs on first, second, and third downs, and then repeatedly punting after that, but I don't think I've ever witnessed such a spectacle on the football field.
It's certainly a tough call, and it was an obscure little game which probably never should have received any national attention.
“It’s a symptom of a sick society that so many people want to criticize and penalize success.”
You are correct. It seems that even FR is infested with “feelings people”, who in other contexts are often referred to with the infamous “L” word.
According to the coach he ended his press after only 3 minutes with a 25-0 lead, started substituting his 3 non-starters, and went into a zone defense for the rest of the game. It did no good; the non-starters were also coached by this excellent coach, and wanted to show what they could do. Since he had only 8 players total, he had to play at least 2 starters at all times.
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Shhhhh....my daughter’s fourth grade team (Catholic school) beat their opponent (another Catholic school) by 22 points on Saturday night (28-6). They didn’t let up even when it was obvious they were going to take the game. Guess both coaches should be fired!!!!! Never mind the fact that the girls work hard and give it their all with sportsmanship...they obviously crushed their opponents’ self-esteem for life.
In the game they played the previous week, the opposing team never made it out of single digits either...darn my daughter’s coaches for teaching them how to win! This must stop before they ruin the self-worth of every team they play in the Arkansas River Valley.
The game before before my daughter’s (this past Saturday), one of the teams never scored a basket. Guess the coaches of that winning team (which were from the same school our girls beat in the next game) ought to be fired. We must stop this epidemic of teaching kids to play well and get ahead in life or others’ feelings would be hurt.
And yes, my daughter’s team has had their butts handed to them once this season (by double digits)...guess what, it’s not happened since :) And I sure don’t remember my daughter being suicidal or even that upset over it.
Hmmm...
Now I don't have so much sympathy for the guy anymore - starting to go back to my original opinion.
Ugh - I guess all this shows is that you just can't get a sense of what was happening without looking at the actual game tape.
“Ugh - I guess all this shows is that you just can’t get a sense of what was happening without looking at the actual game tape.”
I know, I know. LOL. That’s why I have been reserving judgement. I need to see the video.
First of all, the winning school's headmaster issued a public apology for the lob-sided victory. When the coach publicly disagreed with the headmaster, he got fired. Any good boss, CEO or president would have done the same. If the coach had kept his mouth shut, he would still have his job.
Second, this is a private school which depends on good PR for enrollment. The headmaster was looking out for the image of his school.
Third, being a Christian school, they don't need a win at all costs coach in any of their programs, unless they are playing a private muslim school. In this case, they were not.
So they were able to go 4 minutes without scoring. But only after they reached 100 points.
Yeah, that's poor sportsmanship.
“In fairness to the coach, if there was a shot clock in this game, then he could have held the ball on the offensive end for only so long - as the shot clock was winding down, what should he have told his girls to do - refuse to put up a shot?”
He managed to hold up once they got to 100 why not before then? The guy was pushing for the century mark. Should the team forfeit? no but dont pretend its a coincidence it was 100 to nothing
The coach had to respond. His team was being trashed by their own school. He did the right thing and tried to set the record straight. Should his players go thru life thinking they participated in a shameful victory?
He wasn't fired for running up the score, he was fired for publicly going against the school administration's apology. Publicly denouncing the school administration will get a faculty member fired every time.
Yes.
When I was in high school, I played on an intramural flag football team. One of the other teams was made up of cheerleaders.
We beat them 98-0 and were striving to get to 100 points. A bunch of geeks with no chance of ever dating cheerleaders, we instead took it out on them in the only way we could.
Is that mature? No.
But we were 15 and 16. This coach should know better that running up the score to try to hit 100 is classless.
Frankly the school board chair should be fired for attacking his own students. The coach did the right thing and stood up for his girls. He’ll get hired soon I bet. Hopefully by a school that can appreciate him
The Mavs should hire him, at least he knows how to coach defense.
>>Im sorry where, exactly, in the Bible does it say where we should and should not show mercy?<<
To those who need it we should show it. The people on the basketball court have full bellies, warm clothes and a roof over their head.
Frankly, the use of the word “mercy” in a sports arena (regarding the SCORE OF A GAME) is really a phrase that merely gets it’s roots from the actual meaning of the word.
I repeat the example from my previous post: Is it “mercy” when a college professor gives a failing student a “b”? In both cases, those who “fail” can learn from their failure.
It is called tough love and VERY Christian.
There really IS a time and place for everything:
Ecclesiastes 3:
1 There is a time for everything,
and a season for every activity under heaven:
2 a time to be born and a time to die,
a time to plant and a time to uproot,
3 a time to kill and a time to heal,
a time to tear down and a time to build,
4 a time to weep and a time to laugh,
a time to mourn and a time to dance,
5 a time to scatter stones and a time to gather them,
a time to embrace and a time to refrain,
6 a time to search and a time to give up,
a time to keep and a time to throw away,
7 a time to tear and a time to mend,
a time to be silent and a time to speak,
8 a time to love and a time to hate,
a time for war and a time for peace.
If we had but 8 fingers and toes, would it have been sufficient to only score 64 (100 in octal)?
Do they know we are Christian because we stop when we reach a round number?
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