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UAW throws GM under the bus
The Intellectual Redneck ^ | February 14, 2009 | The Intellectual Redneck

Posted on 02/14/2009 4:56:09 PM PST by Askwhy5times

The UAW walked out on concession negotiations, according to an AP news source. They are willing to throw GM under the bus to protect their bloated benefit and pay packages. UAW wages and benefits are almost $30 per hour higher than the Japanese transplants. Unless the UAW realizes the gravity of the situation, GM and Chrysler will be forced into bankruptcy. That is a better alternative for the taxpayers. Then, the bloated UAW contract can be reduced by a judge. Have you ever seen a UAW contract? See a UAW contract here. It weighs 22 pounds. The UAW is not known for reason. A UAW organized plant(Magna New Process Gear plant) recently refused concessions even though the plant would be closed without them. They preferred unemployment to working under a reduced contract. The vote wasn't even close. The UAW rejected the concessions with 76% voting no.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: bailout; gmconcessions; uaw
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The UAW will not stop until the 'Big Three' are bankrupt. The Intellectual Redneck
1 posted on 02/14/2009 4:56:10 PM PST by Askwhy5times
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To: Askwhy5times

I’ve always been sure they were insane. So many unions are self-destructive in this way.


2 posted on 02/14/2009 4:59:05 PM PST by ottbmare
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To: Askwhy5times

An even bigger problem is the network of local extortio- eh, I mean contracts.
One hard-ass local can shut down the company.


3 posted on 02/14/2009 4:59:39 PM PST by steve8714 (How do you know your tattoo doesn't read "I love Mangina" in Chinese?)
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They are willing to throw GM under the bus to protect their bloated benefit and pay packages. UAW wages and benefits are almost $30 per hour higher than the Japanese transplants.

Yes but...if GM goes under, there won't BE any pay or benefits.

4 posted on 02/14/2009 5:00:09 PM PST by AntiKev ("Within the strangest people, truth can find the strangest home." - Great Big Sea - Company of Fools)
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Good. Good. Good.

It will be a blow to unions and the Obamanation.

5 posted on 02/14/2009 5:03:11 PM PST by Tolkien (Grace is the Essence of the Gospel; Gratitude is the Essence of Ethics.)
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Wonder how much the mafia gets in kickbacks from the UAW?


6 posted on 02/14/2009 5:06:33 PM PST by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: Askwhy5times

Old habits are hard to break. It’s their very nature. This is the first time in 50 years or more that the unions have not been in the driver’s seat. Up to now they were dealing with fat cat auto maker execs who would give to their demands rather than risk their cushy jobs at the car maker. It didn’t matter to the execs if they were making deals that would eventually bankrupt their employer. They were living, and negotiating, for the moment or for that year’s contract. The future be damned. Give ‘em what they want.

It’s the same game now, but the players are different. The exec’s very jobs are on the line now. The final decision has been kicked upstairs, to the Congress. The union figures Congress has already given in once, what’s to lose by calling their bluff.

Sadly I fear Congress will cave again.

There is only one way for to end eventually and that’s for Congress to hold the line. Anything else will just be insuring further demands and threats from the unions.

For my money, I say let ‘em go bankrupt. Let the union guys see what the rest of us live with out here.


7 posted on 02/14/2009 5:07:03 PM PST by jwparkerjr (God Bless America!)
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That’s good. The salvation of the Big 3 is to bust their unions and pay competitive wages. This sounds more to me like the UAW jumped under their own bus.


8 posted on 02/14/2009 5:07:17 PM PST by bigbob
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To: ottbmare

The company has been no less self destructive. After all, they sat at the same table and made the deals with the union to begin with.

Seems to me that they would have been better off many times in the past by letting the union strike and drive them into bankruptcy. Then they could have restructured in better economic times. The union would be far more willing to renegotiate after being starved out for several months.


9 posted on 02/14/2009 5:08:49 PM PST by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: AntiKev

Even though Obama and the Democrats will do almost anything to protect the UAW it will truly PO the rest of the work force. It may not happen overnight but it will be one more nail in the coffin if the rest of the country is still in recession.


10 posted on 02/14/2009 5:09:26 PM PST by WHBates
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To: Askwhy5times

It is easy to walk out when you have YOUR MAN in the White House. Obama is not going to let GM fall into bankruptcy and the union bosses know it. If he changes his mind they will be the first to know and will be back at the table in a nanosecond.


11 posted on 02/14/2009 5:15:37 PM PST by InterceptPoint
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The UAW will not stop until the 'Big Three' are bankrupt.

The UAW has not a concern for the "bail out" bill to pay off the Obama crones just passed and guarantee's UAW sustenance via generational payment.

We are a proud and free nation...

12 posted on 02/14/2009 5:16:23 PM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, Question everyone else)
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So can we all admit that GM and Chrysler are no longer viable companies? It seems pretty obvious they can’t compete under the current union contracts, and the unions probably won’t go away until their hosts die...so move on and buy a Hyundai or Ford. Gm and Chrysler just aren’t going to be around in a decade or so, except maybe as a small division of one of their competitors.


13 posted on 02/14/2009 5:18:41 PM PST by Trod Upon (The Left killed my country.)
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To: AntiKev

The UAW officals are not worried about the rake and fine just their bloated salaries and dues.


14 posted on 02/14/2009 5:19:29 PM PST by chiefqc
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To: Tolkien
Obama et al supposedly want to give the unions open voting supposing that will help them gain new members.

At the same time anyone who might be targeted by a unionization drive can see what UAW is doing ~ which is killing off their employers with no substitute in sight.

With that eample you'd have to be crazy to want to sign up with a union.

15 posted on 02/14/2009 5:19:38 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Askwhy5times

I wonder how many people in the UAW buy foreign cars and don’t support their own companies. Right now I have a 2008 Mercury Sable, which I bought last year. I’m satisfied with it, and I recommend it.


16 posted on 02/14/2009 5:19:56 PM PST by Dr. Scarpetta
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**The UAW will not stop until**

they are forced, by their own Greed and Stupidity, to take a big bite out of the Trillion Dollar CRAP SAMMICH... whereupon the UAW’s benefit package will be 100% of NUTTIN’.


17 posted on 02/14/2009 5:20:28 PM PST by gwilhelm56 (MULLAH OBAMA - which part of "Congress shall make no Law" - do you NOT UNDERSTAND??)
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To: Askwhy5times
It weighs 22 pounds.

My comment has nothing to do with the pro's or con's of the topic.

The 22Lb. statement is pure bullshit. Subject collection of 11 1/2" X 8" papers contains all the letters of agreement from its first inception until present and has very little to do with the working contract book that is available to every union and non-union employee today..........

Carry on with your discussion.......

18 posted on 02/14/2009 5:22:12 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Welcome to Detroit, the Renaissance city......)
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I need to ask, just how much bailout money has been thrown at GM already, and now they are again at the gates of bankruptcy? That only means that congress should have saved the money, in the first place, and ...

Well now, did I just do an oxymoron? Did I just say saved, money, and congress in the same sentence?

Wonder just how long unemployment benefits for UAW memberss are supposed to last?

Wonder what kind of evidence this action is for JOBS?

So many questions, so few answers.


19 posted on 02/14/2009 5:23:01 PM PST by wita
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To: Hot Tabasco

....to answer the Redneck’s question, yes, I have seen the UAW contract. I even have one in my posession for the company I worked for.........


20 posted on 02/14/2009 5:23:47 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Welcome to Detroit, the Renaissance city......)
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