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Chaos, Confusion and Civil War
Geopolitical Global Analysis ^ | March 13, 2009 | Jeffrey R. Nyquist

Posted on 03/16/2009 11:13:43 AM PDT by Travis McGee

On 29 December 2008 the Wall Street Journal ran a piece about Igor Panarin, dean of the Russian Foreign Ministry’s diplomatic academy. A former KGB officer, Panarin made a splash by predicting that America will probably come under martial law by the end of 2009, and may fracture into several states by 2011. When this happens, says Panarin, Russia and China will become the mainstays of a new global order.

Americans are naturally skeptical of Panarin’s analysis. But his conclusions are quite pedestrian. If North America sank beneath the ocean like the fabled continent of Atlantis, the world would belong to Russia and China. No significant obstacle would stand in their way. The proof of this is found in the history of all empires, in the character of the leaders in Beijing and Moscow, and in the appalling weakness of Europe and Japan. Unthinking people are sometimes heard to say that Russia and China aren’t expansionist powers. It is laughable to think this, because you don’t become the largest country or the most populous unless you’ve conquered a considerable territory inhabited by many millions of people.

Without the United States in the picture, Russia and China would be the dominant powers. They would dictate terms to the world. No country or group of countries could possibly stand against them. This is because Russia and China possess thousands of nuclear weapons. The small nuclear arsenals of France, Britain, Israel and India do not pose a serious threat to large countries with large arsenals like Russia and China. Psychologically speaking, these small powers are helpless against great powers.

If Panarin is right about the breakup of the United States, then he is also right about the coming of a new global order under Moscow and Beijing. But is he right about the breakup of the United States? It was an anonymous Russian diplomat quoted in Pravda last July, who first intimated that the United States was about to suffer a profound crisis – a crisis of existence. How did the Russian diplomat know that the United States was headed for a financial crash? He knew because Russia has the best information service in the world, formerly known as the KGB. Russian spies have penetrated everywhere, and provide high quality information to people like Panarin – who is a “former” KGB analyst.

The Russian intelligence services have long tracked economic, financial and demographic changes in the United States. Russian analysts know that certain trends lead to political crisis. Such trends include ethnic balkanization, an ideological split in the ruling class, rising indebtedness, economic collapse, and declining moral standards. A country like the United States is ripe for civil war. If this should happen, foreign powers would intervene and the country would be split along geographical lines: California and the West would fall under Chinese control, Texas and the south would go to Mexico, and Russia would lay claim to Alaska. “It would be reasonable for Russia to lay claim to Alaska,” says Panarin. “It was part of the Russian empire for a long time.”

Panarin is saying, basically, that the present economic crisis signals a political crisis. The divisions within American society, and the narcissistic pathologies of consumer society, will cause an implosion. The people of America will turn against one another. The protective nuclear umbrella provided by the United States will cease to function. Europe and Asia will fall to Russia and China. From that point forward, the outcome of every political conflict on the planet will be determined in Moscow or Beijing. This would include, of course, the conflict within America itself.

Could America turn against itself in a matter of months? There are already inklings of a fissure. Sen. Robert Byrd (D-W.Va) wrote a letter to President Barack Obama warning the administration to desist from bypassing the Senate’s authority over Executive Branch appointments. According to Senator Byrd, the new administration is creating new agencies out of the White House that “can threaten the Constitutional system of checks and balances.” In effect, Byrd explained, the White House is taking “direction and control of programmatic areas that are the statutory responsibility of Senate-confirmed officials.”

The new administration sees the economic crisis as an opportunity to create a new bureaucracy, less accountable and more powerful than ever. This new bureaucracy is preparing to take charge in the areas of health care reform, urban affairs, energy policy and the fight against climate change. Each new government office signifies a massive claim against the well-being of every American. The fight against global climate change will put the country in an environmental stranglehold. Health care reform signifies the nationalization of 14 percent of the U.S. economy. And what is meant by “urban affairs”? It is a wealth transference program bound to demoralize the suburbs. Administration energy policy promises expensive, unworkable energy alternatives while ignoring enormous oil deposits recently discovered under Montana and the Dakotas.

The Obama administration is headed for failure on every front. The economic healing process is being interfered with by a government that doesn’t know what it’s doing. The country is bound to suffer grievously, and lose patience. We already catch a glimpse of the future from Alan Keyes, who recently said that the country was headed for “chaos, confusion and civil war.” According to Keyes, “Obama is a radical communist, and I think it is becoming clear. That is what I told people in Illinois and now everybody realizes it’s true. He is going to destroy this country, and we are either going to stop him or the United States of America is going to cease to exist.”

The sentiments expressed by Mr. Keyes are those attending civil war. But matters have already taken a turn for the worse. There is a rumor in Washington that is making the rounds. It is alleged that the president has fended off dozens of law suits regarding his citizenship status, without producing a birth certificate to prove that he is a natural born citizen. In fact, Keyes will not acknowledge that Obama is actually the president. According to Keyes, “[Obama] has refused to provide proof that he is in fact a natural born citizen, and his Kenyan relations say he was born in Nairobi at a time when his mother was too young to transmit U.S. citizenship.”

The lines are being drawn, and we are headed for national tragedy. Panarin’s analysis isn’t farfetched at all. The country needs to wake up. Danger approaches, and it is coming on fast.


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: cw2; cwii; cwiiping
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1 posted on 03/16/2009 11:13:43 AM PDT by Travis McGee
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2 posted on 03/16/2009 11:14:34 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

Pretty sad when Byrd is a ‘constitutional watchdog’.


3 posted on 03/16/2009 11:17:01 AM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Travis McGee

Already looking into a home swap. I haven’t decided which state can hold out the longest and keep with the Constitution.
The Libertarians wanted/ have moved to N.H. without much luck except for making annoyances of themselves about legalizing weed.


4 posted on 03/16/2009 11:20:14 AM PDT by lucky american (Glenn Beck Rocks!!!)
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To: Travis McGee

Marking for later read. So... first there was Yuri Bezmenov. Now Panarin.


5 posted on 03/16/2009 11:22:10 AM PDT by Tired of Taxes (Dad, I will always think of you.)
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To: lucky american

My new motto is; draw the line, let me know what side the guns are on and give me 24 hours to get on the right side.


6 posted on 03/16/2009 11:24:27 AM PDT by incredulous joe
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To: Travis McGee
This guy talks in circles. He says that the world would be dominated by China because of their nuclear arsenal, then goes on to say that they would invade the US and take over the west coast. Last check we have a lot more nukes then they (the Chinese) do. His logic doesn't check out. As for Russia bagging Alaska, same problem. Unless Alaska wants to become part of Russia, and it doesn't, then it isn't going to.

Now the US may break up into 3-4 independent nations for the reasons given, but the only part of the US that might end up as part of another country is California, that may end up going back to Mexico. Again, because if CW II causes the Anglos to flee, the majority of people in the region will want to be part of Mexico. And a large part of the rest of the country will want them, and their massive debts, San Francisco liberals, and Environuts to go away. After all if Mexico takes back California we get rid of Arnold and Nancy right away, and Obama can't win the White House without California's electoral votes.
7 posted on 03/16/2009 11:31:49 AM PDT by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: incredulous joe

Make it a week. I’m in N.Y. And I sure as hell ain’t moving to N.H.


8 posted on 03/16/2009 11:33:10 AM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: Travis McGee

an ideological split in the ruling class, rising indebtedness, economic collapse, and declining moral standards. A country like the United States is ripe for civil war
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He’s 100% correct. The divide is too great. It has progressed to 2 sides that hate each other. Politicians pitted us against each other. The cultural divide it too great. We aren’t all a team of Americans any longer. The end result can’t be good.


9 posted on 03/16/2009 11:45:08 AM PDT by mojitojoe ( Idiots elected a Marxist ideologue with narcissistic personality disorder & America is dying.)
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To: Travis McGee

. The people of America will turn against one another.
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Will? They already have. Read DU. They hate us, we hate them.


10 posted on 03/16/2009 11:46:40 AM PDT by mojitojoe ( Idiots elected a Marxist ideologue with narcissistic personality disorder & America is dying.)
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To: PzLdr

I don’t know, strategically, northern NH isn’t a bad choice, it’s close to the Canadian Border (and no chance of them invading, and it’s far enough away from any major sea ports, so if they invade through Maine you’ll have a heads up.

Plus with it’s natural layout and plenty of farm land I think it’s actually one of the better choices, considering that it’s a not a militarily strategic target it would be a great place to attack it would give people plenty of time to organize and put up some defenses.

That’s just my opinion.


11 posted on 03/16/2009 11:48:40 AM PDT by gjones77
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To: Travis McGee; LucyT

By the way, this is an excellent article and I don’t see on thing in it that I don’t think could easily happen or is happening.


12 posted on 03/16/2009 11:49:40 AM PDT by mojitojoe ( Idiots elected a Marxist ideologue with narcissistic personality disorder & America is dying.)
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To: Travis McGee

This the most pessimistic view, but there is still a huge problem. Americans may disagree mightily over politics. But for most Americans politics does not rule our lives. We all have friends and family that are just about every political stripe around.

Russia wouldn’t wind up on top of the heap like they think. They’re population is imploding with no hope of reversing it. In fact I could see a Russo-Chinese war starting shortly after the US civil war commences. With the Russians losing, and the Chinese unable to make any use of their gains.

China lacks the necessary infrastructure to make itself a power with global reach, and would need a long time to fix that. China also has internal problems that will destroy it, with no one like the US around.

I don’t know if we will end up in Civil War or not, though I hope not. But this Russian is engaging in mental masturbation and that’s all he is doing.


13 posted on 03/16/2009 12:06:22 PM PDT by Hawk1976 (It is better to die in battle than it is to live as a slave.)
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To: Travis McGee

Kind of makes you wonder what was really going on with those nukes flown down to Barksdale AFB “by mistake” a while back, hmm?


14 posted on 03/16/2009 12:07:37 PM PDT by Charles Martel ("Endeavor to persevere...")
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To: PzLdr

No plans for me to go to NH.

I’m going to Jesusland!!


15 posted on 03/16/2009 12:10:49 PM PDT by incredulous joe
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To: GonzoGOP

. After all if Mexico takes back California we get rid of Arnold and Nancy right away, and Obama can’t win the White House without California’s electoral votes.
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LOL! Sounds good to me. I don’t really consider CA part of the US anyway. It’s that state alone that has mainly generated the cultural divide we have now.


16 posted on 03/16/2009 12:28:19 PM PDT by mojitojoe ( Idiots elected a Marxist ideologue with narcissistic personality disorder & America is dying.)
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To: Charles Martel

Kind of makes you wonder what was really going on with those nukes flown down to Barksdale AFB “by mistake” a while back, hmm?
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I didn’t hear about that. What was that all about? Link?


17 posted on 03/16/2009 12:30:21 PM PDT by mojitojoe ( Idiots elected a Marxist ideologue with narcissistic personality disorder & America is dying.)
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To: gjones77
I don’t know, strategically, northern NH isn’t a bad choice

Strategically maybe, If you don't mind snow. Coming from Alabama, with some of the lowest overall state taxes, I'll stay here and not worry about freezing. I think the south will be one of those break aways than can sustain itself. There is a reason you never hear of anyone retiring to the north :-) Good luck.

18 posted on 03/16/2009 12:47:22 PM PDT by MrPiper
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To: Travis McGee

“There is a rumor in Washington that is making the rounds. It is alleged that the president has fended off dozens of law suits regarding his citizenship status, without producing a birth certificate to prove that he is a natural born citizen.”
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Rumor? I thought this was known to all who wanted to know.


19 posted on 03/16/2009 12:51:28 PM PDT by RipSawyer (Change has come to America and all hope is gone.)
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To: Travis McGee

Somehow, and IMHO, I don’t think Europe and Japan would remain weak if the US ceased to exist. I think they would rise from their slumber and lay down a massive a$$ whoppin on everyone within twenty years. It would be like letting lions out of the zoo. They would get very hungry and very independent very quickly.


20 posted on 03/16/2009 12:52:35 PM PDT by MattinNJ (Sanford/Palin in 2012)
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