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Could THIS be Obama's End Game?
na | 06-20-09 | OrangeHoof

Posted on 06/20/2009 4:17:38 PM PDT by OrangeHoof

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To: OrangeHoof

North Korea would still need to manage to hit Hawaii.


61 posted on 06/20/2009 6:44:10 PM PDT by keats5 (Not all of us are hypnotized.)
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To: beebuster2000

LOL.


62 posted on 06/20/2009 6:44:48 PM PDT by keats5 (Not all of us are hypnotized.)
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To: OrangeHoof

Obama goal is to get as many people as possible working unproductively. Making efficient end products, that are costly and unplentiful. While injecting more and more money into the system. So...more and more money will be chasing fewer and fewer goods and services => hyper inflation. Like most liberals, Obama thinks reducing consumerism is noble.

So, we will build windmills by taking people away from more productive pursuits, but not invest in the electric grid, because investing in the grid would benefit existing producers (increase productivity). Inevitably we will favor the least of all productive pursuits => this is what marxism does well!


63 posted on 06/20/2009 7:08:49 PM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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To: OrangeHoof

In a country without gun owners, your scenario is plausible. And no, lurking DHS and Secret Service agents (hi there!) that wasn’t what you think it was, I’m merely saying that such a policy would be untenable with the threat of thousands of Ruby Ridge like scenarios all over the country (only instead of racist nutjobs, it would be average Americans).


64 posted on 06/20/2009 7:09:48 PM PDT by LifeComesFirst (http://rw-rebirth.blogspot.com)
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To: Safrguns

An attack *hurts* Obama’s agenda, it does not help it. It would show him, and others of his ilk, for the limp-wristed, America-hating bed-wetters that they are. Which wouldn’t go over well with the voters.


65 posted on 06/20/2009 7:12:01 PM PDT by LifeComesFirst (http://rw-rebirth.blogspot.com)
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To: The Sons of Liberty; OrangeHoof

I agree, Far fetched. BUT, on the other hand, Hawaii is far enough from the mainland that a nuclear attack, as horrible and unthinkable as it would be, would be surrounded by miles of Pacific Ocean, and therefore isolated enough not to affect the other States immediately, except of course, with outrage and horror. Instead of impeachment, the usurper in the WH (whom I call the “Lyin’ King”) could easily rally the American people to “his” cause, as if “he” were the embodiment of the American Spirit, with his silver teleprompter tongue.


66 posted on 06/20/2009 7:56:10 PM PDT by left that other site
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To: foobarred

Only the difference is that Bush DIDN’T make it happen OR DIDN’T let it happen. Can you say the same for BHO??

Bush did make some mistakes. But hoping the country is attacked isn’t one of them. I seriously cannot same the same for BHO.

Isn’t it HIS COS that said, “Never let a crisis go to waste.”????


67 posted on 06/20/2009 8:09:02 PM PDT by Reddy
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To: OrangeHoof

Patriot Missiles, Phalanx Gatling, laser etc ... That missile ain’t getting close to Hawaii.


68 posted on 06/20/2009 8:37:03 PM PDT by Vendome
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To: OrangeHoof

Alex Jones of infowars.com has produced several documentaries about government sponsored terrorism. Just finished watching these and see the lessons from history correlated to recent events. Hitler (Reischtag Fire in 1933), Gulf of Tonkin to get us into Vietnam, USS Liberty, JFK resistance to bankers (why he was shot), WTC buildings imploded, etc.

http://www.infowars.com/ or just d/l using BitTorrent

It’s no longer Rep and Dem - the bankers and globalists are closing on the U.S and their New World Order is becoming more apparent every day. Conservative talk shows are a top stupid layer and I have freaking had it with them. Go deeper and watch Jones’ documentaries.


69 posted on 06/20/2009 8:42:26 PM PDT by enviros_kill
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To: Terabitten
If Obama failed to respond to an attack on US soil, he’d be impeached faster than you could say “treason or other high crimes and misdemeanors.”

By whom? His party owns both the House and the Senate. No way they are going to let their party's leader be impeached or even let it come to a vote. You seriously misunderstand how corrupt the Democrats are.

70 posted on 06/20/2009 8:44:01 PM PDT by OrangeHoof (YES WE CAN have a Depression.)
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To: LifeComesFirst

Disagree - an attack would help Obama expand war and enact further restrictions on our freedoms. Look at history: Hitler, 9-11, all resulted in police states.


71 posted on 06/20/2009 8:45:41 PM PDT by enviros_kill
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To: ronnie raygun

They were easy to spot, both times, they wore red. Thanks, Brits.


72 posted on 06/20/2009 8:55:18 PM PDT by Vendome
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To: John McDonnell; colorcountry; Elsie; Tennessee Nana; greyfoxx39; Godzilla; Colofornian

Sorry but the pack of nonsense in the bom is either derived from passages of the KJV, or manufactured by Joey Smith’s cronies out of whole cloth and is no better to rest any relevance upon than the panflute meanderings of Yanni - and no more - or less relevant.

Joey boy failed the “Deuteronomy test “ for prophetic legitimacy several times over.

All that is necessary to fail that standard is, either to issue ONE prophecy that fails to come to pass, or to tell the people one thing in G_d’s name (or represent it as Scripture) that contradicts His existing commands.

Smitty boy fails on both accounts, having made not less than three prophecies which were specific to time frames already long passed, and having represented his own “Scripture” as correcting, clarifying, or superseding the known books of the Bible.

The bom, D & C, and POGP are unacceptable as canonical literature...they meet NO standards of scholarship outside of those (regularly revised) by LDS ‘scholars’.

The land spoken of in the Bible as Zion is not America and never has been. Transplanting selected passages into the bom, and adding flourishes like “and it came to pass” will not validate the poor quality of evident plagiarism - no matter how many times it is revised to correct for colloquialisms and grammatical errors that were profuse in the first several versions.

There are not now, nor have there ever been: Lamanites, Nephites, or other “ites” who fled Israel in times of old and took up pre-Columbian residence in the Americas. Genetic and archaeological evidence has not only failed to support these notions, it has broadly discredited/disproved them in succeedingly more authoritative fashion.

I do not believe that this is, in general, the proper forum to be engaging in what is bluntly and essentially, proselytization for the LDS P.O.V.

There are threads where that is proper and open discussion about the pros and cons can take place, and there are also devotional caucus threads wherein LDS faith and beliefs can be discussed as if they were acceptable and mainstream. This is not such...

This stands true, regardless of what we as conservatives may wish to be true about the present and future of the American Constitutional republic; statements from the bom are of no effect thereto.

That said, I thoroughly distrust zer0bama, there is very little in the way of egotism and nefarious intentions that I would be willing to put past his desires, but I also believe his reach would eventually exceed his grasp.

He is too greedy, too eager, increasingly too full of hubris, confident in his own charm, intelligence and messiah-like stature.

I hope and believe he and his cronies will fail.

A.A.C.


73 posted on 06/20/2009 8:56:54 PM PDT by AmericanArchConservative (Armour on, Lances high, Swords out, Bows drawn, Shields front ... Eagles UP!)
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To: OrangeHoof
Could Obama use Hawaii as the sacrificial lamb to put us all under martial law?
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I bet ground zero of any bomb would be the office where birth certificates are stored.

74 posted on 06/20/2009 8:59:34 PM PDT by wintertime
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To: AmericanArchConservative

Your not being picky are you. I mean, facts is facts and when they is backed by science and written history well the rest becomes legends. lol

Liked your post.


75 posted on 06/20/2009 9:07:10 PM PDT by Vendome
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To: left that other site
I agree, Far fetched. BUT, on the other hand, Hawaii is far enough from the mainland that a nuclear attack, as horrible and unthinkable as it would be, would be surrounded by miles of Pacific Ocean, and therefore isolated enough not to affect the other States immediately, except of course, with outrage and horror. Instead of impeachment, the usurper in the WH (whom I call the “Lyin’ King”) could easily rally the American people to “his” cause, as if “he” were the embodiment of the American Spirit, with his silver teleprompter tongue.

Precidely. The key for the Democrats is to *use* the situation to control the rest of us which is the ultimate goal of the Left. It is what these people bleed.

If they can create a situation where there is no dissent, no chance of an election loss and no means to overtake the government, then the Democrats won't care how bad the economy gets or how unpopular their policies are, etc. The people won't have a choice but to accede. That's how communists rule. They pretend to care about their citizens until they have firmed up control to the point where they don't have to care.

Now, some on this board may think America would never let it happen but I don't share that confidence. Not when I see what this guy has already accomplished and how many millions still love him anyway. I'm sure there were lots of people in Germany who thought it could never happen there either.

76 posted on 06/20/2009 9:07:53 PM PDT by OrangeHoof (YES WE CAN have a Depression.)
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To: sushiman
" But what does NK have to gain from the attack ? I haven’t heard this explained well yet . "

Here's your answer : Kim Gone ILL
77 posted on 06/20/2009 9:16:58 PM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM .53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart, there is no GOD.)
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To: OrangeHoof

Some states should pass resolutions banning the implementation of Martial Law.


78 posted on 06/20/2009 11:47:39 PM PDT by wastedyears (Rock and roll ain't worth the name if it don't make ya strut)
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To: svcw

But he is not stupid, which makes him very dangerous.
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Yes, he is. You give him far too much credit. He can’t barely complete a sentence without screwing up. He is the sum of a team of people that prop him up. He is nothing more than a geeky, idiotic puppet.


79 posted on 06/20/2009 11:58:33 PM PDT by mojitojoe (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: LifeComesFirst

either way he loses... cause he’s reaching too far too fast.


80 posted on 06/21/2009 12:29:33 AM PDT by Safrguns
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