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Firearms rights activists are now 'insurrectionists' say anti-gunners
examiner.com ^ | June 24, 2009 | Dave Workman

Posted on 06/28/2009 4:52:46 PM PDT by smokingfrog

 

   Timing is everything, and a new book from Joshua Horwitz and Casey Anderson ties in well with recent “reports” from the Department of Homeland Security on “rightwing extremists” and the one from the Missouri Information Analysis Center on the “modern militia movement.”
   Horwitz, executive director of the Coalition to Stop Gun Violence, and Anderson, a Washington, D.C. attorney, call their book Guns, Democracy and the Insurrectionist Idea. So, in addition to being demonized as “rightwing extremists” and militia whackos, now gun rights activists – people who stand in defense of their fundamental civil right to keep and bear arms that is protected by the Second Amendment – are “insurrectionists.”
   Saul Cornell, a professor at Ohio State University and one of the nation’s leading gun control proponents, says this book “is an important first step in demonstrating how reasonable gun control is essential to the survival of democracy and ordered liberty.”
   These guys simply cannot get over the fact that one year ago this Friday, the Supreme Court of the United States let the air out of a myth they had championed for years, and affirmed that the Second Amendment protects an individual right to keep and bear arms that goes well beyond service in some militia.
 
When gun enthusiasts talk about Constitutional liberties guaranteed by the Second Amendment, they are referring to freedom in a general sense, but they also have something more specific in mind---freedom from government oppression.
 
   Amazon.com offers this description of the book, which reads like it was provided by the authors: “And when gun enthusiasts talk about Constitutional liberties guaranteed by the Second Amendment, they are referring to freedom in a general sense, but

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1 posted on 06/28/2009 4:52:47 PM PDT by smokingfrog
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To: smokingfrog

Well, not quite yet.


2 posted on 06/28/2009 4:54:46 PM PDT by raptor29
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To: raptor29

Well, that’s what I was going to say. LOL.


3 posted on 06/28/2009 4:55:55 PM PDT by Bahbah
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To: smokingfrog

When this country becomes a dictatorship then the book will be telling the truth. We will, at that point in time, be insurrectionists.


4 posted on 06/28/2009 4:56:03 PM PDT by samtheman
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To: raptor29

Whoops. I posted before I read yours.

You beat me to it.

Anyway, there’s another word for it: FreedomFighter.


5 posted on 06/28/2009 4:56:55 PM PDT by samtheman
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To: Joe Brower; bamahead; Travis McGee

Bang


6 posted on 06/28/2009 5:00:09 PM PDT by EdReform (The right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed *NRA*JPFO*SAF*GOA*SAS*CCRKBA)
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To: samtheman

7 posted on 06/28/2009 5:00:21 PM PDT by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: smokingfrog; bamahead; dcwusmc
Saul Cornell, a professor at Ohio State University and one of the nation’s leading gun control proponents, says this book “is an important first step in demonstrating how reasonable gun control is essential to the survival of democracy and ordered liberty.”

Reasonable control of the Federal government is necessary for the survival of a republic and individual liberty. Proponents of gun control such as yourself implicitly presume that the Federal government reigns supreme over the people when it is, in fact, the exact opposite. We the people, or more precisely, we the people, via our individual States, voluntarily entered into the Federal union, and it follows that we the people can also voluntarily dissolve it.

Of course, such thinking is considered heretical by folks who favor stronger central government and who, in past lives, would probably have favored instituting a monarchy rather than a Republic in the early days of the United States.

8 posted on 06/28/2009 5:01:54 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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To: Vaquero

The day will come (if it hasn’t already), where being a Freeper will be enough to be scrutinized. Adding guns just adds to it.


9 posted on 06/28/2009 5:02:37 PM PDT by umgud (Look to gov't to solve your everday problems and they'll control your everday life.)
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To: smokingfrog

They keep pushing us into a corner and this’ll be a self fulfilling prophecy.


10 posted on 06/28/2009 5:02:47 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (III)
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To: smokingfrog
Firearms rights activists are now 'insurrectionists' say anti-gunners

We're in good company:


Firearms rights activist and insurrectionist George Washington


Firearms rights activist and insurrectionist Thomas Jefferson


Firearms rights activist and insurrectionist Nathan Hale


Firearms rights activist and insurrectionist Patrick Henry


Firearms rights activist and insurrectionist Charlton Heston

It's odd that supporting the Constitution of the United States of America makes us opponents of the occupant of our White House, but that is the choice that our Community Organizer has made. I'm proud to join that list!

11 posted on 06/28/2009 5:02:48 PM PDT by TurtleUp (So this is how liberty dies - to thunderous applause!)
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To: smokingfrog

Perhaps the anti-gunners should back off then - ya think?


12 posted on 06/28/2009 5:02:58 PM PDT by WorkerbeeCitizen (The only time I want a Republican reaching across the aisle is to smack a liberal.)
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To: neverdem; AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; ...
Ping!
13 posted on 06/28/2009 5:03:03 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: umgud
You think we aren't already being scrutinized?

Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if the next time I try to buy an airline ticket...I get denied.

14 posted on 06/28/2009 5:04:39 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (III)
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To: smokingfrog
Famous Insurrectionists


15 posted on 06/28/2009 5:04:53 PM PDT by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: Dead Corpse

Yer prolly right.


16 posted on 06/28/2009 5:05:39 PM PDT by umgud (Look to gov't to solve your everday problems and they'll control your everday life.)
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To: smokingfrog

Saul you may well find out One day that Americans will not accept your version of,”ordered liberty.”


17 posted on 06/28/2009 5:06:09 PM PDT by BigCinBigD ('When a man believes that any stick will do, he at once picks up a boomerang,')
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To: smokingfrog
So ACORN are activists but gun owners are insurrectionists ... we've not insurrected anything .... yet ....

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18 posted on 06/28/2009 5:06:45 PM PDT by SkyDancer ('Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not..' ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: rabscuttle385

I’ve got news for Saul: ultimately, the only thing that keeps a society civilized is the certain knowledge that the person you’re about to %$#@ over, can kill you.


19 posted on 06/28/2009 5:08:18 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (ALSO SPRACH ZEROTHUSTRA)
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To: smokingfrog

20 posted on 06/28/2009 5:08:45 PM PDT by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: smokingfrog

There have to be lots of Liberal Democrats who are GUN OWNERS.
Do they fall in this category?


21 posted on 06/28/2009 5:09:54 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (The plan... 0 in power for life. At least that's what they told him.)
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To: smokingfrog

>>> “...gun control is essential to the survival of democracy and ordered liberty.” <<<<

I don’t recall our Founders ever promoting “democracy and ordered liberty” anywhere in our nation’s legal documents.


22 posted on 06/28/2009 5:10:01 PM PDT by angkor
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To: smokingfrog

Personally I prefer the term ‘militant’ but insurrectionist is good too.


23 posted on 06/28/2009 5:10:09 PM PDT by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: samtheman
We will, at that point in time, be insurrectionists.,

It is not an insurrection to defend the Constitution that socialists seek to destroy.
24 posted on 06/28/2009 5:13:16 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! FairTaxNation.com)
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To: smokingfrog
freedom from government oppression.

Iranians wish this also.

25 posted on 06/28/2009 5:13:30 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (The plan... 0 in power for life. At least that's what they told him.)
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To: umgud
The day will come (if it hasn’t already), where being a Freeper will be enough to be scrutinized. Adding guns just adds to it.

Are you saying I should demure and not mention guns and be afraid

You not saying that are you?

if so then I must repeat:


26 posted on 06/28/2009 5:14:39 PM PDT by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: cripplecreek

It’s famously said at the time of the American Revolution that 1/3 of the people at the time were revolutionaries, 1/3 were loyalists (to the crown) and 1/3 didn’t care much either way. Not all that different from what we have right now. Furthermore, I think you can see much more clearly (with the benefit of present circumstances) that the founding fathers all had large brass ones, to do what they did.


27 posted on 06/28/2009 5:16:00 PM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: smokingfrog

“reasonable gun control is essential to the survival of democracy and ordered liberty”

Sounds like the excuse Hitler used to take the guns away from the victims of Auschwitz, Buchenwald, etc. death camps.


28 posted on 06/28/2009 5:17:56 PM PDT by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: smokingfrog
Bring it on, I haven't had a good insurrection in a while
29 posted on 06/28/2009 5:17:59 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (zer0 is doing to capitalism what Kennedy did to health care)
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To: WorkerbeeCitizen

I “had” a friend who is a BIG TIME anti second amendment idiot. She said that if all guns were banned, the world would be a peaceful place. Well I TRIED to get through to her, but to no avail. Here’s basically what I said:

“So, all guns are banned, but the criminals have them because there is NO ban or law that they can’t find a way around. If someone breaks into your home while your husband and kids and grandchildren are there, what do you do if the criminal decides to do a little rape & murder?”

Her answer was: “I guess we’ll die”.

I’m telling you folks, there are some REALLY foolish folks out there!


30 posted on 06/28/2009 5:18:08 PM PDT by Just Lori (For the first time in my adult life, I am really afraid for my Country.)
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To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
I think you can see much more clearly (with the benefit of present circumstances) that the founding fathers all had large brass ones, to do what they did.

Like the clappers in a church bell.
31 posted on 06/28/2009 5:19:22 PM PDT by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: rabscuttle385
ordered liberty

How much evil lurks in this phrase?

32 posted on 06/28/2009 5:21:27 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: angkor

Saul is one of the crowd who imagine that the Leftwingtard mob will destroy him last.


33 posted on 06/28/2009 5:21:37 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: smokingfrog

I’m surprised they didn’t call us reactionaries and threaten to send us to the gulag.


34 posted on 06/28/2009 5:23:33 PM PDT by seowulf (Petraeus, cross the Rubicon.)
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To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten

I am a double son of the American revolution.I have been shot at,blown up,in two head on wrecks and have had cancer. Not much left to be afraid of.These commies can kiss my old white ass.Come and get them you city acorn fags.


35 posted on 06/28/2009 5:24:10 PM PDT by TLEIBY308 (Keep yer powder dry and watch yer top Knot.)
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To: smokingfrog
"Ordered liberty"?

Liberty is never ordered: it is defended.

An "ordered" society is properly the outgrowth of a respect for the freedom for all, enshrined in law, above which no single person may be placed, and the rule of which is vouchsafed in representative government.

When people begin to talk of "order" as a value - they do not mean "organization" but control.

The enemies of Liberty are making their intentions known and her defenders would do well to pay heed.

36 posted on 06/28/2009 5:24:24 PM PDT by andy58-in-nh (You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life.)
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To: Just Lori

Liberalism is the ideology of suicide.


37 posted on 06/28/2009 5:25:36 PM PDT by andy58-in-nh (You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life.)
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To: umgud
'The day will come (if it hasn’t already), where being a Freeper will be enough to be scrutinized. Adding guns just adds to it.'

Well, I think quite a few of us are in deep doo-doo, then.


38 posted on 06/28/2009 5:25:44 PM PDT by Viking2002 (Ted Nugent for Attorney General '12. You Know You Want It.)
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To: smokingfrog

People who demonize supporters of our lawful Constitution are seditionists.


39 posted on 06/28/2009 5:26:58 PM PDT by TigersEye (0bama: "I can see Mecca from the WH portico." --- Google - Cloward-Piven Strategy)
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To: Vaquero
Are you saying I should demure and not mention guns and be afraid

I don't know how you came to that conclusion, but I mention guns and gun rights loud and often, as I know you do also. Somebody has to take a stand.

40 posted on 06/28/2009 5:26:59 PM PDT by umgud (Look to gov't to solve your everday problems and they'll control your everday life.)
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To: smokingfrog
Saul Cornell, a professor at Ohio State University and one of the nation’s leading gun control proponents, says this book “is an important first step in demonstrating how reasonable gun control is essential to the survival of democracy and ordered liberty.”

Book, Saul?

Books are now usurping the Constitution?

We aren't a Fascist nation Saul, not yet.

41 posted on 06/28/2009 5:27:02 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: andy58-in-nh
Liberalism is the ideology of suicide.

I'm not ready to lay down and die yet.

42 posted on 06/28/2009 5:28:42 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: smokingfrog

So we’re “insurrectionists,” now?

Well, OK. Sounds good to me!


43 posted on 06/28/2009 5:29:50 PM PDT by ScottinVA (Impeach President Soros!!!)
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To: TLEIBY308

Just damn, you have been through more than I have and I have been dead and heartless once!


44 posted on 06/28/2009 5:31:12 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: andy58-in-nh
Liberalism is the ideology of suicide.

and when we have government sponsored and regulated health care, and they don't feel you are worth spending the money to save you, they will offer assisted suicide....nice group of scumbags those libs.

45 posted on 06/28/2009 5:32:30 PM PDT by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: smokingfrog
Saul Cornell, a professor at Ohio State University and one of the nation’s leading gun control proponents

Saul my be having an impact somewhere in Chicago or NYC, he's having none in OHIO!

We need a CCW Ping list.

46 posted on 06/28/2009 5:32:44 PM PDT by Recon Dad (Cogito cogito ergo cogito sum - MARSOC DAD)
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To: EGPWS
I'm not ready to lay down and die yet.

Nor is any patriot, ever. Others act to strip us of our freedoms and then accuse us of "radicalism" when we object. As much as we are led to purposeful confusion, never forget who are the radicals and who are the defenders of civilization.

47 posted on 06/28/2009 5:33:05 PM PDT by andy58-in-nh (You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life.)
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To: umgud

just asking. good for you.


48 posted on 06/28/2009 5:33:18 PM PDT by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: EGPWS

You got a good used heart I hope.


49 posted on 06/28/2009 5:33:46 PM PDT by TLEIBY308 (Keep yer powder dry and watch yer top Knot.)
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To: smokingfrog

Maybe it’s time we get into these little punk’s faces and tell them to put up or STFU!


50 posted on 06/28/2009 5:35:21 PM PDT by US Navy Vet
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