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Vanity: One small point that's been missed.
William of Barsoom

Posted on 08/01/2009 8:43:56 AM PDT by William of Barsoom

I'll be brief.

In all the talk about rationing of health care, especially regarding seniors approaching The End, the discussion has been mostly about utilitarian concerns. Costs, rationing, fairness, what happens and how will you feel when it's you -- that sort of thing.

But at least partly, it should be about Respect.


TOPICS: Government; Politics; Religion; Society
KEYWORDS: euthanasia; health; seniors
I'll be brief.

In all the talk about rationing of health care, especially regarding seniors approaching The End, the discussion has been mostly about utilitarian concerns. Costs, rationing, fairness, what happens and how will you feel when it's you -- that sort of thing.

Socialists claim to icy logic, free of emotion, but they do have an emotion about "useless eaters" as they call our seniors. That emotion is disparagement and dismissal as an unimportant drag on the rest of us. An expensive inconvience that shouldn't be allowed to Be. Burned-out husks, of no further use.

But at least partly, it should be about Respect.

Respect for who these people are. They ARE part of what's been correctly called The Greatest Generation -- you know; the one that saved Civilization from a murdering World Dictator.

That's worthy of Respect. Honor, even.

In all this utilitarian, post-modernist talk of costs and efficiency, and practical benefits that accrue to the society by killing off the old folks faster, the conversation has not considered the idea that they are well worthy of some simple Respect due to their lives lived as they were, and even some kindness and comfort -- no matter how much it "costs," just because they deserve it. It's been Earned.

If you see people as spiritual beings, then you will treat them differently than if you view them as meat.

When you Respect someone, you tend to Do The Right Thing.

1 posted on 08/01/2009 8:43:56 AM PDT by William of Barsoom
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To: William of Barsoom

What I read about the End counseling is that it’s for Seniors to discuss their options and express their wishes as far as living wills, how extreme illness should be handled, etc. That part of the reform is a good idea, I think.


2 posted on 08/01/2009 8:53:00 AM PDT by BobMV
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To: William of Barsoom

It is a test concerning the sanctity of life.

Liberals fail.


3 posted on 08/01/2009 9:02:09 AM PDT by Safrguns
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To: BobMV

Where in the constitution does it give congress the power to tell seniors how to do ANYTHING in their lives? Let alone give them the power to MANDATE this that or the other anything about Health care?

No where is the answer.


4 posted on 08/01/2009 9:05:09 AM PDT by Danae (I AM JIM THOMPSON - Conservative does not equal Republican. Conservative does not compromise.)
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To: William of Barsoom

You see it as a matter of respect, and so do I, but the left does not. On the sites where I spar with lefties they are so consumed with “sticking it to the man” meaning anyone who disagrees with them, that they have willingly thrown simple common decency under the bus. They don’t care and they don’t care that they don’t care.

They dress up their outrage with the common whines of “But what about the children?” but when you point out how the proposals being considered guarantee that EVERYONE (except the rich and those in power) will suffer, they roll their eyes in the backs of their pointed little heads.

Something bad is coming and there is no avoiding it.

Keep your eyes open and your powder dry...


5 posted on 08/01/2009 10:00:48 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: BobMV

We have that now.

We don’t need to spend a trillion dollars (and counting) of money that we don’t have, turn complete control of 20% of our economy over to the incompetent federal government, and destroy the finest healthcare industry in the world in order to bring us something that we already have.


6 posted on 08/01/2009 10:06:32 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: William of Barsoom

I wonder how many of our health care costs are a result of foreigners getting things done here, circumventing their failed socialist government-run programs.


7 posted on 08/01/2009 12:30:42 PM PDT by freedomconservationist
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To: William of Barsoom

Liberals like reading bills that talk about “gently” clearing away the old to make room for the young. This is because of two factors 1) they do not believe in anything they can’t see and 2) regardless of how often they have been proved wrong they they still believe in the “finite” universe controlled by man.


8 posted on 08/01/2009 2:11:34 PM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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