Posted on 08/04/2009 1:12:34 AM PDT by Red Steel
Charles Kerchner, Lead Plaintiff in the Kerchner v Obama & Congress Lawsuit, Converts Talk Show Radio Host Bill Cunningham of 700WLW of Ohio into a Birther.
Hi all. I waited 1 1/2 hours on the line but got on during the last hour of the Willie Cunningham Show out of Ohio on Sunday night, 2 Aug 2009. "Willie" Cunningham was challenging people to give him a credible explanation as to how those two birth announcements got into the Honolulu newspapers if Obama was not born in Hawaii. So I decided to try and get on the show to explain it to him. It was a long, long wait, but I finally got on in the last 15 minutes of the show.
I was on the last 10-15 minutes of the third hour of his show. Below is the link to the podcast. Use the scroll bar to fast advance to the last 15 minutes of the show if you don't wish to listen to the whole 3rd hour segment of the show.
Bill Cunningham Podcast on Demand.
Summarizing what I explained to Willie: I explained to Willie how those two newspaper advertisements in the Honolulu Advertiser and the other paper have no independent probative value. It's the garbage in garbage out data effect. If the birth registration was a fraud perpetrated by the grandmother, then those newspaper filings made by the HI Health Dept to those two newspapers (which was standard practice for all births registered) are therefore fraudulent evidence too. I told him the reason grandma did it was to get her new Kenyan born grandson U.S. citizenship, a valued and desirable thing to have even back then. And grandma in Hawaii was a shrewd lady and had lots of lawyer friends to tell her how easy it was to do. And since the Hawaiian laws were so lax it was easy for grandma to do it via a simple mail in form.
No one from the Health Department ever checked the veracity of the facts for such filings by families registering birth occurring at home with no witnesses other than a family member. So over the course of the discussion with Willie, I told him, yes there is probably a birth registered for Obama in Hawaii, and thus a vital record of that false registration is there, but I did not believe that Obama was really born there based on the contradictory evidence in Kenya. And Obama does not want the original released because it does not show he was born in any hospital and that will dispute what Obama has been telling everyone. Thus the testimony in Kenya will gain more credibility if what Obama is saying happened in Hawaii does not check out via the original birth registration documents. Willie got it. It sunk in. At the end of my segment with Willie he says he's converting to a Birther. Maybe Willie will pass on what he's learned to Hannity and some of his other talk radio friends.
The grandmother would have had to say that the baby was born at home, maybe this explains the phony address in the paper.
From other items I’ve read, the people living at that address in the newspaper birth notice were not related in any way to BHO II.
As for the newspaper birth notice..... My daughter was born in TX. Her maternal grandfather here had NINE brothers and sisters in Racine WI. This was his only grandchild and he was the oldest of all of his sibs.
He could easily have notified the local newspaper in Racine to post the birth notice for his siblings, so they would know they now had a niece. ......That was in 1964, so there was not anything like email for rapid communication.
My point is that a newspaper birth notice is meaningless. And, it certainly has no bearing on a person being a “natural born citizen” of the USA.
Great call...
That was Sunday and Charles said something about court “tomorrow” Monday...
What happened yesterday in court ???
This makes sense. Obama’s mother was probably in an unstable relationship with Obama Sr. and the grandparents knew it wouldn’t last. Thus, they escpecially needed that U.S. citizenship.
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“I told him the reason grandma did it was to get her new Kenyan born grandson U.S. citizenship, a valued and desirable thing to have even back then. And grandma in Hawaii was a shrewd lady and had lots of lawyer friends to tell her how easy it was to do. And since the Hawaiian laws were so lax it was easy for grandma to do it via a simple mail in form.”
BTTT. The audio debate is excellent.
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