Skip to comments.AAR: Astroturf is as Astroturf does...A Trip to Grand Junction on the Democrat Bus
Posted on 08/16/2009 1:22:50 PM PDT by Jenny Hatch
Yesterday I took a bus ride with a group of people down to President Obamas Grand Junction Colorado Town Hall on health care.
I should preface this after action report with a few foundational thoughts and a little bit of background.
First, I was completely honest about my name, the fact that I was/am a Citizen Reporter for the Huffington Post, and the fact that I write a politically charged health care blog, and am a health care activist.
While I did not tell those in charge of the trip that I am also a conservative free market activist who is planning the next Denver Tea Party and has been a member of Free Republic for the past five years, I did make it clear to my seat mate Janice that I have serious issues with our health care system as it stands and want to see some permanent reforms put in place.
The bottom line is that I went to Grand Junction yesterday to get some information to write this blog entry and do a video montage for HuffPo and I told anyone who asked me why I was on that bus the truth of my goals for the day. The day before the trip, I saw on our local news that several groups were providing free bus rides for the 5 hour trip from Denver, and I made the decision to ask the Democrats if I could ride along with them and they said yes.
(Excerpt) Read more at naturalfamilyblog.com ...
Writing for that communist Huffington, what are you doing here!
Regarding “The fact that I agree 100% with John Mackey (CEO of Whole Foods) who wrote the brilliant piece in the Wall Street Journal last week ... “
Here’s another reform that would help... bring back the medical expense tax deduction, the one we used to have pre-1986 where every cent you spend on medical expenses is tax deductible. People would be more apt to spend their own money going to the doctor because they know it’s tax deductible. And when you spend your own money on something, it’s automatically more valued.
Would love to have your father’s views on this article.
Sounds pretty astute, to me.
Thank you for your report. There is a lot to consider there.
I thought it was clear and then I remembered Big Oil (BO).
I thought Big Oil was the group that not only commandeered the MOC but also bought off congress and squashed Big Auto. But then it made sense - Oil - resource - minerals - elements - MERCURY!! It was Big Oil that forced Big Pharma to acquiese by forcing them to use MERCURY!
But wait a minute! Big Oil has the same initials as Barack Obama (B-O). You don't think, nah, no way!
The whole idea that “organized protesters” is something bad is ridiculous and an intentional distraction. Political discourse and dissent has always been and will always be ‘organized’ in some fashion. It wouldn’t and couldn’t happen any other way. It is a grade school taunt to make an issue of it.
“Writing for that communist Huffington, what are you doing here!”
I don’t write for the Huffington Post, I volunteered to be a Citizen Reporter of the teaparty events so that I could cover the teaparties from my conservative vantage point and hopefully they could publish it. They in fact did after the tax day teaparty, but the other reports I have sent have not been published. I don’t know if that is because I have been outed as a conservative or if they did not like my video montages.
PS the link takes you to a video roundup, mine was the first in the report, that allows you to see what huffpo readers are being told about teapartiers. It’s not a pretty site, but I like to think that my report helped share the the truth a little.
Maybe that’s the way they roll in CO, but come down to Los Angeles to see the real belly of the Beast. I am willing to tell you stories about my experiences with the Left. Wonder how they would have reacted if a Conservative tried to make the trip....
I am a former Democrat and Liberal. Thank God I found the light, and can critically think. I realized a few years ago that if you want to know what the Dems are up to, just listen to what they are accusing the Repubs of. Shameful, but would make Alinsky proud. On second thought, alot of liberals don’t have an embarrassment gene so they can never stoop too low.
bad link, here is the huffpo link: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/10/tea-party-video-right-win_n_185577.html
“I thought it was the Military Industrial Complex that controlled everything? Or did they sell it all to BIG PHARMA?”
During one of the presidential debates Mitt Romney and John McCain got into it about Big Pharma. John McCain said that “something had to be done about the pharma companies”.
What do you think he was referring to?
“No, the Military Industrial Complex took control of the world away from The Jews at the end of WWII. The MIC didnt do a very good job with it so the VRWC took charge. The VRWC sold control to Big Pharma three years ago. Clear?”
So what do you think this quote from the wall street journal means...
“Butler said the deal outlined in the memo provides more evidence that the probability of health care reform significantly hurting the drug industry is diminishing each day.
The whole article:
White House-PhRMA Memo Surfaces Again
Wall Street Journal Reports here:
“Since mid-July, the White House and the drug industrys Washington lobby, PhRMA, have denied any specific agreement that would give the industry big benefits in exchange for its support for President Barack Obamas health care overhaul effort.
But there is an email outlining a four-part deal that industry lobbyists were sending to each other on July 7. The White House and PhRMA have called the memo inaccurate, though one side or the other has acknowledged three of the four big points.
Lobbyists and reporters arent the only ones citing the memo. Barclays Capital advisers in New York included the memo in a note to its clients July 8, as part of its effort to keep clients informed about the likely impact of health care overhaul on their investments.
Barclays note said, According to our Washington consultants, the components of this agreement, which is similar to the Senate version, may be as follows, and listed the terms but without naming the author.
Tony Butler, managing director and senior equity research analyst at Barclays Capital, reaffirmed his groups belief in the memos importance. We got this (memo) from some of our health consultants who have relayed accurate information before on the course of health care reform and he backed it up with information from drug company executives and Senate Finance folks.
It all holds together, Butler said, detailing why industry wants to avoid the issues listed on the memo, one of which is an expensive Pandoras box. He said he has been told Sen. Max Baucus, chairman of the Finance Committee, is on board with the memo contents.
Butler said the deal outlined in the memo provides more evidence that the probability of health care reform significantly hurting the drug industry is diminishing each day.
Ken Johnson, vice president of PhRMA said in a statement, Frankly, I dont ever recall seeing any analysts at any of our closed-door board meetings . In fact, parts of the so-called memo are simply incorrect, and that, he said, should speak to its authenticity. He did not specify which parts. The White House first referred Washington Wire to PhRMA, and had no immediate comment.
In Barclays cover letter accompanying the memo, Butler pointed out a typo-a reference to Rep. Henry Waxman of California as Senator Waxman. We doubt Waxman would object.”
As I said Big Pharma Troll, The Big Pharma Companies have already won, they honestly don’t care which side wins the health care fight because they win either way.
You can’t be so naive to believe that Obama would accept 80 BILLION dollars without having to hand something big back in return...
I disagree with one thing you said. You said they were not paid, but they were, with a free bus ride and free food.
A local radio station here is organizing buses to go to the 9/12 rally in DC. But I would have to pay for my seat on that bus.
So once again, the astroturfers are on the left, not right. And I would call the peaceful respectful lefty group an exception, not the rule. Perhaps the leaders were tipped off to your true motives.
Control of the world and thinking a mostly white socialist owes you big and is going to pay you back are two totally different things.
The guy on the bike was probabl;y an anarchist. That’s their MO.
“I disagree with one thing you said. You said they were not paid, but they were, with a free bus ride and free food.”
I said I had a “gut feeling” they were not paid. I would not be surprised to find out that each of them received several thousand dollars to make that trip. It was extremely uncomfortable.
As for astroturfers being on the left and not on the right, I totally agree with you. I have been a conservative activist, out in the streets demonstrating, since 1999 and no one has ever given me a penny to demonstrate for the conservative side.
As for them being “peaceful” lefties, the organizing young gal knew exactly how prone they were to violence as she practically begged them not to interfere with the anti obama demonstrators. She knew how it was portrayed in the media after the Pelosi event in Denver (by the Denver Post no less and picked up by Drudge). She did not want anyone in that group to be proven violent in the media.
Bottom line, I just reported what I experienced and saw for myself.
Why don’t you plant yourself on a busload of Union members and lefty activists for a day and then share your take on what you see???
What do you think he was referring to?
Well, hmmm. Let me see. Big Agra? (actually, we didn't cover them, did we?) If it was pharmaceuticals, McCain is also a huge believer in Global Warming caused by humans. That right there is enough to cross him off my average intelligence list.
I don't mean to belittle but the conspiracy theories range from the comical to outlandish over a wide variety of subjects. People ascribe certain acts, functions and plans of the government, all nefarious in nature, when in reality for most things the government couldn't plan its way out of a paper bag without screwing something up. Same for big companies. They are always the boogymen. As if people blame all sorts of problems in their lives from irradiated beets causing cancer to Duncan Donuts putting some sort of solution in their coffee to keep people hooked. No matter what the issue, the claims are insane.
Tell, me what is your solution to "Big Pharma"? I'll be interested as long as it's not communist or fascist in nature.
“Tell, me what is your solution to “Big Pharma”? I’ll be interested as long as it’s not communist or fascist in nature.”
Get ALL government dollars out of the health industry.
Stop all pharma advertising to consumers.
Open up all legal files regarding law suits surrounding antidepressant killings and suicides so the public is completely aware of how deadly they are.
It’s a start....
I just posted a boatload of pictures on my blog and remixed the video and posted it at You Tube:
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