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NAVY qua guinea pigs INFECTED WITH H1N1 Because of Vaccine
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Posted on 09/26/2009 3:39:32 PM PDT by The Conservative Yogini

The crew of a naval vessel was vaccinated with H1N1 vaccine in order to “see what happens”. Well, what happened was that the Captain and the Chief Petty Officer died. Worse than that, it has become clear (yet again) that the vaccine actually CAUSES swine flu.

If you choose to give either yourself or your kids a swine flu vaccine, you need your head examined.

Here is the testimony from Navy wives of the affected crew via the internet radio show A Marines Disquisition, with Drew Raines. http://www.clipser.com/watch_video/1362067 :

Ignore at your own peril. After the testimony is the actual Navy document that orders the vaccination to take place.

(Excerpt) Read more at thegadflyblog.com ...


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Health/Medicine; Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: bogus; flu; h1n1; navy; outbreak; rumour; snopes; swineflu; urbanlegend; ussboxer; vaccine
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To: SgtBob; All

MUCH worse... the first I heard of it was cited as coming from a caller in to Alex Jones’ radio show.

That being said, I would REALLY like to know some more FACTS in this case... As others have said — names of the sailors who died, and the name of the SHIP would be the FIRST thing that should be given.

I don’t doubt that this could DEFINITELY happen, just that I don’t want to start passing along something with so little details. There is enough to worry about and argue about regarding the vaccine without pushing something I can’t prove to others, and have no information about.

SURELY there has got to be SOME talk about the ship(s) that have been quarantined.

Also, I’m listening to the radio show right now, and this guy is saying that they went to sea in APRIL and had all been vaccinated at that time??? Very confusing, really.

Someone has to get the information and something to back it up as well.

I have a question though — I understand about the wives being told not to tell if this info. is classified, but what would these wives face if they ignored these “orders” as they presumably are NOT sailors themselves...

Would their husbands face reprimand for something their wives did? I can see it may affect their future assignments and such... I’m just wondering.


61 posted on 09/28/2009 7:00:54 AM PDT by LibertyRocks ( http://LibertyRocks.wordpress.com ~ ANTI-OBAMA STUFF : http://cafepress.com/NO_ObamaBiden08)
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To: dangerdoc

Thanks... I was wondering about what they could do to the wives if they are not military personnel themselves. Perhaps they are threatening that their husbands will be discharged or something?


62 posted on 09/28/2009 7:03:24 AM PDT by LibertyRocks ( http://LibertyRocks.wordpress.com ~ ANTI-OBAMA STUFF : http://cafepress.com/NO_ObamaBiden08)
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To: Quix

That’s what I was thinking, Quix. Surely something of this nature would be making the rounds in ways other than just through these radio shows. Heck, within a few days of the Pirate episode we had detailed accounts of what really happened...

As others have said — I don’t doubt that this could be true, but the lack of details and the questions many experienced vets have brought to the discussion makes me wary of believing this particular story.


63 posted on 09/28/2009 7:08:59 AM PDT by LibertyRocks ( http://LibertyRocks.wordpress.com ~ ANTI-OBAMA STUFF : http://cafepress.com/NO_ObamaBiden08)
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To: neverdem

Thanks for the ping!

We always need to avoid vaccines; its playing with fire at best, and deliberate infection in many cases.


64 posted on 09/28/2009 7:15:10 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bomb-a administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: Smokin' Joe; DvdMom
There are several reports on the Internet debunking 'news' about the H1N1 vaccine disabling and/or killing navy crewmen. Why would people release a false report ______ ? Criminal motives have all sorts of permutations.

One poster notorious for lying repeatedly about housing and mortgages, recently claimed that over 150 million people had lost jobs in this recession. Lying liars lie. They continue lying for whatever reasons privately motivate them.

Here is one report that is worth noting:

A Glimpse into the Scary World of Vaccine Adjuvants

Excerpt:

* * * The most common adjuvant for human use is an aluminum salt called alum derived from aluminum hydroxide, or aluminum phosphate. A quick read of the scientific literature reveals that the neurotoxic effects of aluminum were recognized 100 years ago.

Aluminum is a neurotoxicant and has been linked to Alzheimer's disease and other neurological disorders. * * * Scientists speculate that aluminum neurotoxicity may be related to cell damage via free radical production, impairment of glucose metabolism, and effects on nerve signal transduction. (2) Vaccines which contain both aluminum adjuvants and mercury based preservative, greatly magnify the neurotoxic effects.

* * * The classic oil based adjuvant called Freund's Complete Adjuvant can cause permanent organ damage and irreversible disease - specifically autoimmune diseases. When scientists want to induce autoimmune disease in a lab animal, they inject it with Freund's Complete Adjuvant, which causes great suffering and is considered by some too inhumane to even inject into animals.

Dr. Jules Freund creator of this oil based adjuvant warned in 1956 that animals injected with his formulation developed terrible, incurable conditions: allergic aspermatogenesis (stoppage of sperm production), experimental allergic encephalomyelitis (the animal version of MS), allergic neuritis (inflammation of the nerves that can lead to paralysis) and other severe autoimmune disorders. * * * {A] long List of Side Effects Referring to squalene in her extensive article on adjuvants, Dr. Scheibner writes:

"This adjuvant contributed to the cascade of reactions called "Gulf War syndrome", documented in the soldiers involved in the Gulf War. The symptoms they developed included arthritis, fibromyalgia, lymphadenopathy, rashes, photosensitive rashes, malar rashes, chronic fatigue, chronic headaches, abnormal body hair loss, non-healing skin lesions, aphthous ulcers, dizziness, weakness, memory loss, seizures, mood changes, neuropsychiatric problems, anti-thyroid effects, anaemia, elevated ESR (erythrocyte sedimentation rate), systemic lupus erythematosus, multiple sclerosis, ALS (amyotrophic lateral sclerosis) also known as Lou Gehrig's disease, Raynaud's phenomenon, Sjorgren's syndrome, chronic diarrhoea, night sweats and low-grade fevers. * * *

Seems to me there are good reasons to suspect the government often uses the military as guinea pigs. 'Nuff said by me.

65 posted on 09/28/2009 7:17:39 AM PDT by ex-Texan (Ecclesiastes 5:10 - 20)
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To: LibertyRocks

thx.


66 posted on 09/28/2009 7:23:05 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: neverdem

As I said in previous post...I will stick with the homeopathics I mentioned which has all the 2009-2010 attenuated nosode version of the viruses including H1N1. No side effects from any of our patients (adults and children) reported from it. ;)


67 posted on 09/28/2009 9:30:27 AM PDT by BossLady (Acorn slogan - PIMP LIKE YOU'RE HO-LESS)
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To: BossLady

UPDATE: Bob Chapman On H1N1 Infected/Vaccinated Navy Ship

http://www.thegadflyblog.com/2009/09/update-bob-chapman-on-h1n1-infectedvaccinated-navy-ship.html


68 posted on 09/28/2009 10:26:34 AM PDT by The Conservative Yogini
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To: DvdMom; Smokin' Joe

Rumor Confirmed: NAVY qua guinea pigs INFECTED WITH H1N1 Because of Vaccine
This report is from from Bob Chapman of The International Forecaster.

I have been re-assured from Bob that this is in fact TRUE and that the government is LYING and visiting every Marine and Naval family in the San Diego/Carlsbad area telling them to shut up about what went on.

UPDATE: Here is Bob on the Power Hour talking about this. It is the first topic on the show. Click on my post here.


The crew of a naval vessel was vaccinated with H1N1 vaccine in order to “see what happens”. Well, what happened was that the Captain and the Chief Petty Officer died. Worse than that, it has become clear (yet again) that the vaccine actually CAUSES swine flu.

If you choose to give either yourself or your kids a swine flu vaccine, you need your head examined.

Here is the testimony from Navy wives of the affected crew via the internet radio show A Marines Disquisition, with Drew Raines.
http://www.clipser.com/watch_video/1362067 :

Ignore at your own peril. After the testimony is the actual Navy document that orders the vaccination to take place.

1. Unnamed US Navy vessel put to sea in April with 347 man crew.

2. Entire crew was vaccinated with H1N1 Swine Flu vaccine shortly after they put to sea.

3. Crew sickened so severely that other ships had to respond to render aid. 16
Medical Drs put aboard from an unnamed aircraft carrier and other responding
vessels. Total of 50 Navy personnel sent aboard to respond to crisis.

4. Two of the crew of 347 died - including the Captain of the ship (a Lieutenant Commander) and a Chief Petty Officer.

5. 50 personnel sent aboard to help are quarantined in Navy hospital in Balboa,
Spain after 10 of them caught the flu from the ship’s crew. Two of the 50
quarantined are in serious condition at last report.

6. Of the 347 man crew that were vaccinated, 333 contracted the H1N1 flu FROM THE VACCINE. Two died, as mentioned above, and 331 survived. Only 14 of the 347 vaccinated sailors did not show any ill effects from the vaccine.

7. Navy has threatened all the spouses of the ship’s crew to remain silent – claiming all this information is classified. Some are whistle-blowing and that is where this information is coming from.

8. On the unnamed aircraft carrier that provided assistance, 415 sailors contracted the swine flu and are currently quarantined onboard.
PLEASE pass this email along. The truth is that the swine flu epidemic will be
created BY THE VACCINE. If we don’t take it, there will be no epidemic. From
this one test it’s apparent that the vaccine as tested on that ship’s crew in April is 96% effective at infecting the recipient with swine flu. Such an infection rate is impossible to achieve by any natural means. Though it only killed 1%
immediately, there is no telling what the long term effects on those injected with the vaccine will be. See the research on the long term effects of the 1976 swine flu vaccine, and the Gulf War anthrax vaccine programs for more information. Also note that mere contact with those that have been vaccinated
creates a 20% chance of you contracting the swine flu even if you have not been
vaccinated. Please pass this data along to anyone you care about!
*****
‘Major Alert’
The U.S. Navy has “OVER” 5 U.S. Navy Ships TURNING BACK FROM MAJOR
ORDERS OF TRANSPORT TO “MIDDLE EAST WAR ZONE”
NAVY & COMBAT MARINES AIR WINGS, AND GROUND TROOPS
***UNABLE TO FULLFILL THEIR DUTIES****
At present confirmed 1 a/c carrier
2 destroyers
1 helicopter a/c carrier over 30,000 assorted Military, mostly USN & USMC
Some coast guard, National Guard & some Air Force.

Semper Fi, Drew Malone; Raines III
Master Electronics Engineer
USMC 1967-1977
Owner: H.E.A.R.T. & Associates
http://www.amd.elequity.com
***

Here is the Navy document that orders the vaccination for naval military units, to essentially use them as guinea pigs for their poison. http://thepowerhour.org/news4/opnav-3500-41.pdf (Page 12, Phase 2)

(3) Phase 2 - Distribute and preposition antivirals,
personal protective equipment (PPE) and medical treatment equipment for containment.….

(Page 17)

(n) Initiate immunization of military units once a
licensed vaccine is available and supplies and distribution are
adequate. Department of Defense will direct the immunization
program via 000 issuances and its executive agent, Military
Vaccine (MILVAX) Agency. BUMED will provide service
implementation guidance in support of 000 guidance.

(r) Ensure any adverse events are tracked and
reported following vaccine and/or antiviral administration in
accordance with existing policies and guidelines, including GCC
command surgeons among report addressees.


69 posted on 09/28/2009 11:12:13 AM PDT by OB1kNOb (There are four boxes used in defense of liberty: Soap, ballot, jury, & ammo. Use in that order.)
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To: LibertyRocks; All

All ship movements, Little Creek to Treasure Island, West-Pac, Med,...all are top-secret. “Loose lips sinks ships.”, yet every hooker in every port knows when and where the ships will berth....go figure.

If sailors had been killed, somebody would have leaked it to FOX.

In the Marine Corps we were given vaccinations, and boosters every six months to keep up deployable. I’m sure the Navy follows suite because they take us where we are going.

As for wives, I never told mine where I was going. I can only presume that opsec is the same as it has always been.


70 posted on 09/28/2009 5:58:02 PM PDT by SgtBob (Freedom is not for the faint of heart. Semper Fi!)
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To: The Conservative Yogini

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/07/21/health/main5177494.shtml


71 posted on 09/30/2009 3:59:39 PM PDT by PreviouslyA-Lurker
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To: Grunthor; GeronL

I would like corroboration also but have found none.
All’s I have found is a bunch of predominantly cost-free blogs and Alex Jones’ websites linking to each other.
The bothersome aspect of this “story” is that it was reported by CBSnews dot com at some point. I and many other Freepers know that CBS doesn’t employ fact-checkers so it’s not the lack of fact-checking I’m bothered by, it’s something else.
It’s CBS. Not sure of the need to expound on that any further.

BUT, there’s another swine flu thread out there on FR regarding NJ mandatory vaccination for school kids. Source?
An undated ABC news broadcast with Charlie Gibson. You-tubed. No date, though.

And that’s all I’m saying right now.
Please note my tagline.


72 posted on 09/30/2009 6:38:33 PM PDT by hyperconservative (Seek and find. Read, verify, and share info. Work and fight.)
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To: hyperconservative

Alex Jones’ websites

CBS

ABC news


How to know if something is bull$^it.


73 posted on 10/01/2009 6:59:57 AM PDT by Grunthor (Gun toting, Bible thumping Flag waver. According to the left, I am a racist.)
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To: Grunthor

Yupper.
:)


74 posted on 10/01/2009 7:28:19 AM PDT by hyperconservative (Seek and find. Read, verify, and share info. Work and fight.)
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To: ex-Texan

“Vaccine A: The Covert Government Experiment That’s Killing Our Soldiers—And Why GI’s Are Only The First Victims”

http://www.vaccine-a.com/

http://books.google.com/books?id=Irw82Iv5nyoC&dq=Gulf+War+Squalene+Matsumoto&source=gbs_navlinks_s


75 posted on 10/03/2009 5:31:05 PM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: LomanBill

There are too many corporate criminals with power granted by Govt to hurt, maim, disable and kill. The next ‘Tea Party’ will probably be over mandatory swine flu vaccinations.


76 posted on 10/03/2009 6:09:04 PM PDT by ex-Texan (Ecclesiastes 5:10 - 20)
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