Posted on 10/03/2009 9:15:02 PM PDT by MissTickly
OUR WORST NIGHTMARE CONFIRMED: Obama’s COLB Lacks Legal Veracity. What Now?
On July 27, 2009, Obama was not verified as ‘Constitutionally Qualified to be U.S. President’ by the standards of Hawaii’s Department of Health and Vital Statistics Registrar. Any assertions by Nancy Pelosi or anyone else must be reexamined under the following LIGHT: THE KEY: ‘FILED by Local Registrar’ vs. ‘ACCEPTED by State Registrar’
We have two statements about two sets of vital records belonging to the President issued from Hawaii. An “original birth certificate” that is “on record in accordance to state policies and procedures” in October, 2008, AND “original vital records” that are “maintained on file,” on July 27, 2009.
1.) Dr. Fukino, Director of the Department of Health on Oct. 31, 2008:
“Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures.”
2.) Dr. Fukino, Director of the Department of Health on July 27, 2009:
“I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, Director of the Hawaii State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawai‘i State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawai‘i and is a natural-born American citizen. I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008 over eight months ago.”
• We also have a COLB presented by President Obama that indicates the information shown has been ‘Filed by Registrar.’ Fig.1 (see below) • However, we also have samples found online of HAWAII COLBs that say they have been ‘Accepted by State Registrar.’ Fig 2 & Fig 3 (see below) MOVING ON WITHOUT HAWAII’S HELP
Hawaii refuses to answer simple procedural questions. Using Nevada’s guidelines on vital statistics, we can reasonably discern the validity of President Obama’s COLB online and the “vital records” used to help verify his is a “natural-born citizen” and “born in Hawaii.” (http://www.leg.state.nv.us/nrs/NRS-440.html)
In viewing the U.S. Vital Statistics System found here: http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/misc/usvss.pdf (pp.62-63), we can see that there began a distinct effort to establish uniform practices of recording Vital Statistic information in all states....
Finish reading it here at my new blog: http://misstickly.wordpress.com/2009/10/04/our-worst-nightmare-confirmed-obama%E2%80%99s-colb-is-worthless-we-need-answers/
The one that shows they were living at an address where they never lived? That one?
In the first place, it's not clear that he was certified, since Nancy Pelosi and her pals sent TWO DIFFERENT certifications out, and the ones that actually went to the states did NOT mention that he was constitutionally qualified.
If Obama is not a Natural Born Citizen, then either he committed perjury, or Pelosi committed perjury, or both. If you commit perjury in the process of getting yourself elected, then the election is invalid.
Given all that we now know, what is the probability that those newspaper announcements are altered images?
Have these announcements been independently verified and checked?
It seems that too many people are basing their judgment on whether Obama was born in Hawaii on those announcements.
Have we found a similar announcement for the Nordyke twins?
That’s the one!
To the best of my knowledge, no.
The space to drop in the 0bama announcement had to come from somewhere, I suppose...
Well it is a possibility that the microfilm records were altered. The address given just does not make sense for Stanley Ann or Obama Sr.
Someone needs to follow this lead further. How many libraries would maintain newspaper records for the papers in question?
Or maybe someone related to the Nordykes have copies of their birth announcement in a scrap book.
Good Point!!! Just exactly which COLB -- if any???
Wasn't the microfilm roll with the BO birth announcement at the librarian's front desk instead of stored with the rest of the microfilm rolls? Or was it a roll of microfilm at all? Was it a prepared "snapshot" of the purported microfilm roll, ready at the front desk in a folder for all people who came to inquire?
The one sent to Texas Darlin’ was an image on a microfiche, which is like squares of film negative which are placed between two sheets of glass for reading and can be projected onto a screen or wall then photographed. The stored imagery is not likely to be in more than four or five loactions, all of which would have been zero protected last year so it would have been an easy forgery to replace every stored image in Hawaii in less than a week. The two papers in 1961 were not like an L.A. Times don’tchaknow, so the stored iamges of such old papers would not be spread across the globe.
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If the chain is adjusted too tight there is a 99.9% probability that it will destroy the rear hub
I know some mechanics and shop owners and it is typical for riders to blame the product when it was a rider maintenence issue, the rider is responsible for maintenence, it is a part of the sport of adventure riding.
I can get parts overnite, my local dealer will drop ship them to me anywhere. The KTM parts system is second only to Honda and very dependable, most parts are in stock in Ohio. On the last big desert ride I did a rider had a clutch hub come off and ripped a hole through the case on his YAMAHA. It takes at least 10 days to get Yamaha parts, KTM three days.
That does not mean that Yamaha is a bad machine. It means that the rider should have listened to me when I told him his bike was making a terrible noise
I have had my transmissions and ignition coils break on Hondas, and hubs disentegrate on Yamahas, had a Yamaha cable lock the front wheel in a race, and my Ford auto transmission just went out , I guess Fords are all a POS....
LOL
I know that I read the thread where it was mentioned that it was at the front desk. But I am not sure now whether it it said that it was a paper copy of the microfilm or the actual microfilm that needed to be placed in a reader.
But yes the fact that in this one case, that when someone tried to verify the validity of the birth announcement that it was already pulled and at the front desk is suspicious.
Now that we have a purported COLB that was only filed and not accepted; maybe the birth announcement issue needs to be looked at with more scrutiny.
If Obama was born in a Hawaii hospital in 1961, then he has a long form birth certificate. Since he has continued to obfuscate it only lends credibility to the belief that he was not born in a hospital in Hawaii.
Since his own story is that he was born in a hospital in Hawaii and not at home: then either the DoH has a long form certificate for Obama or he was not born in Hawaii.
and this could have been done by Barry Soetoro's ( Obama's) mother in order to help in smuggling in the foriegn born child in order to get welfare benefits
The phrase ‘filed by’ may be a reference to the data not coming from a hosipatl at the time of the birth, and having been submitted on an application requesting a HI BC. The phrase ‘accepted by’ may reference the fact that the data came directly from the hospital at the time of birth. In other words, the two different phrasings may be a reflection of how the state at that time differentiated data received from the hospital directly, and data generated by application from family member of the newborn.
OK microfiche not microfilm - any image supposedly generated from the microfiche could be easily altered.
It would be more difficult to generate a new microfiche with the altered data. But even that would not be difficult. But then that one microfiche page should be different than the others in the sequence. So it would be important to examine that whole file.
I know when I have done research on papers on microfiche it comes in a paper folder with separate film pages that are put in a reader to magnify the text.
Yes I understand that the newspaper announcement is not verified evidence. But some people give it credibility. I think some in Congress were even swayed by the newspaper announcements.
I have heard that the hospitals at the time would provide this info to the newspapers to be published. Also I know the grandmother could have called in the announcement.
Or it could be faked. So yes even if valid it does not mean Obama was born in Hawaii. But if faked then that lends credibility to those of us who think he was born in Mombasa.
Good point - but those distinctions should be able to be clarified by the DoH (Fukino et. al.).
It sounded like TerriK tried to get clarification of those terms with no luck.
Since his own story is that he was born in a hospital in Hawaii and not at home: then either the DoH has a long form certificate for Obama or he was not born in Hawaii.
I have a relative who told me he was born at home. I obtained his birth certificate (legitimate, certified). It's from another state (not HI). It's an abstract.
I have another relative who was born in a hospital (also in another state, not HI). Her birth certificate is the detailed long form.
This suggests to me (all other things being equal) that (a) either BO was born in a Hawaiian hospital and therefore has a long form on file, or (b) BO was NOT born in a Hawaiian hospital, and therefore has something else on file. He was born in HI according to testimony from relatives (mother, grandmother) and they created the abstract based on that. This is all assuming he really was born in HI. If he was NOT born in HI, then there's something else on file.
I'm thinking aloud here: I'd like to see if I could track down a detailed form reporting my other relative's home birth which generated the abstract BC.
Not even close. With the sheet in hand, it is an easy forgery to generate an altered reproduction of the microfiche sheet. Any good photography lab would have the necessary materials and camera system.
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