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Since They Can't Get Your Firearms Yet, They Have Gone After Your Ammunition
secondamendmentfreedom.blogspot.com ^ | 10/15/09 | Sasparilla

Posted on 10/14/2009 8:35:49 AM PDT by Sasparilla

Its been predicted for a long time that if anti- gun groups can't get your guns, then they will go after your ammunition.

Governor Arnold Swartzenegger has done exactly that in signing a new law regulating ammunition sales. The ostensible goal is to track the bullets used in crimes.

Criminals will find another way to get their bullets. It will be where they get their guns...on the street. This is another gun law that will only affect the honest individual.

The Governor said just the week before that he would veto the new ammunition law, thus preventing organized opposition to his signature. Anyone violating this new law will face a misdemeanor charge.

The new law makes these changes in the way you will buy ammunition in California.

1) It will prohibit the sale of ammunition in a way that allows the ammunition to be accessible without the assistance of an employee. It has to be in a case where the customer has no access. You could have to stand in line to see what you are buying..

2) The dealer must ask for identification each time you buy handgun ammunition and the dealer will be required to record personal information including:

a. Your thumb print

b. Your Driver's license number

c. Your home address and telephone number

d. The brand and type of ammunition that you purchased

e. Your birth date

3) It will now become illegal to buy ammunition online or by mail order. It may become impossible to buy any ammunition not stocked by dealers.

In addition to crippling taxes, crime, and draconian gun laws, this is one more reason for Californians to move to gun friendlier Nevada or Arizona.

Governor Swartzenegger said in signing the bill, "Although I have previously vetoed legislation similar to this...

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KEYWORDS: agenda; ammo; ammocontrol; banglist; bhobanglist; guncontrol
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To: gimme1ibertee
They’ll have to go to neighboring states to get ammo...

Call me cynical, but it's not much of a stretch for those border checkpoints that look for incoming produce to expand their scope to include ammo.

21 posted on 10/14/2009 9:43:23 AM PDT by gundog (And a babe shall lead them. -Sarah 20:12)
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To: Sasparilla

Since the dollar is tanking and gold is increasingly hard to come by, all asset portfolios should include a substantial percentage of investment grade ammunition.


22 posted on 10/14/2009 9:46:39 AM PDT by LoneStarC (1)
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In my experience Remington rimfire ammo is prone to malfunction although not at the 10% rate you cite. I prefer CCI or PMC


23 posted on 10/14/2009 9:53:52 AM PDT by white17x
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To: Sasparilla

And the gun shops on the AZ side of the CA border say “thank you very much”.


24 posted on 10/14/2009 9:55:05 AM PDT by discostu (The Bluebird of Happiness long absent from his life, Ned is visited by the Chicken of Depression)
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To: Doomonyou

BLOAT was never so true.


25 posted on 10/14/2009 10:00:25 AM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (Depression Countdown: 50... 49... 48...)
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To: gundog
There are "border checkpoints" between states like CO,NV or OR?
I had no idea.
Are you saying that a person who went to visit Aunt Biddy in CO, picked up some ammo online and was heading back to CA would be stopped and checked? Every single person? Now,call me cynical....
26 posted on 10/14/2009 10:06:04 AM PDT by gimme1ibertee (And the people cry "Sarah!Sarah!" And she hears....yes,she hears......)
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To: MHGinTN
Sounds like somewhing wrong with the firing pin not the ammo.

I hope not, it's a brand new rifle. This was the first 60 rounds through it.

27 posted on 10/14/2009 10:08:16 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (The townhalls were going great until the oPods showed up.)
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To: Joe 6-pack
Have you tried different ammo? I've generally had excellent results with CCI rimfire ammo...

I bought some, but didn't take it to the field. I'll try the other ammo - believe it is CCI, but can't remember for certain. Thanks!

28 posted on 10/14/2009 10:09:12 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (The townhalls were going great until the oPods showed up.)
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To: calex59
You might try calling Remington and complaining about it.

I may do so. It's both Remington's rifle and their ammo. Both brand new. Thanks!

29 posted on 10/14/2009 10:11:00 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (The townhalls were going great until the oPods showed up.)
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To: gimme1ibertee
Cali is very fussy about produce entering the State. Could mess with their agriculture if pests got through. Haven't been there in awhile...and God knows there's no reason to go...but I remember going through checkpoints as a kid.

Now, if some enterprising dingbat in the CalGov were to initiate a State Tax on ammo, well, checkpoints at the border might make sense...catch those tax evaders, and use it as an excuse to hire a few hundred stooges on the State payroll.

30 posted on 10/14/2009 10:11:46 AM PDT by gundog (And a babe shall lead them. -Sarah 20:12)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free
BLOAT was never so true.

Big time. I've gotten the go ahead from she who must be obeyed to go shopping, so I'm taking inventory and putting the list together!


31 posted on 10/14/2009 10:12:30 AM PDT by Doomonyou (Let them eat Lead. Bonus tag line: FAIL 246, Obama 0)
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To: IYAS9YAS
...but a screwdriver and hammer, judiciously applied, worked fine.

The old "Okie oil filter wrench" is good for lots of things.

32 posted on 10/14/2009 10:13:30 AM PDT by gundog (And a babe shall lead them. -Sarah 20:12)
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To: white17x
In my experience Remington rimfire ammo is prone to malfunction although not at the 10% rate you cite. I prefer CCI or PMC

This was just the 60 rounds (had 6 misfire), but it did seem high to me. I'm gonna give Remington a call over it.

33 posted on 10/14/2009 10:13:49 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (The townhalls were going great until the oPods showed up.)
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To: Sasparilla

This just sent ammunition buying to an even greater frenzie.


34 posted on 10/14/2009 10:14:22 AM PDT by CodeToad (If it weren't for physics and law enforcement I'd be unstoppable!)
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To: gundog
The old "Okie oil filter wrench" is good for lots of things.

Yup.

On a side note, the inside of the ammo can still smelled like fresh paint (it was dry, though). From the hungarian date stamp on the box, I think it was made in 1984. Every round worked like a beaut. The bruise on my shoulder is now a nice purple.

35 posted on 10/14/2009 10:16:28 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (The townhalls were going great until the oPods showed up.)
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To: Sasparilla

What is up with shotgun shells? Went into Wallyworld to get some clay pigeons for my daughter to shoot and they were $10 a box. I have heard some drivel about there being a lead shortage.


36 posted on 10/14/2009 10:20:47 AM PDT by crusty old prospector
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To: gundog

Only problem is,they can’t afford to hire anyone as dogcatcher,let alone border monitor.I can see border checkpoints to the south,but not from the east or north.
However,you are right about enterprising dingbats...Berkeley sure has given the rest of us enough of them! LOL


37 posted on 10/14/2009 10:25:58 AM PDT by gimme1ibertee (And the people cry "Sarah!Sarah!" And she hears....yes,she hears......)
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To: Sasparilla

1,000 rounds occupies about the space of a shoebox.
Criminals would need only about 10 rounds each.
Street markup could be 1000% easy.
So ... a black market dealer can supply 100 customers, making a 90% profit, netting a nice week’s salary with a few hours’ simple work via easily-obtained goods fitting in a briefcase.
How could this legislation/criminalization possibly go wrong?


38 posted on 10/14/2009 10:26:14 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (Mr. Obama, I will not join your plantation.)
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To: IYAS9YAS

Yeah..could also be that,with production of ammo at a fever-pitch to try and keep up with demand, you could have gotten some bad ammo.Same with the rifles/handguns.Anything’s possible when it comes to high-speed production! LOL Hopefully it’s just ammo.


39 posted on 10/14/2009 10:30:19 AM PDT by gimme1ibertee (And the people cry "Sarah!Sarah!" And she hears....yes,she hears......)
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To: crusty old prospector

$23/box of 100 for bird/target loads (several brands - Winchester, Federal for two) at the Wally World here.


40 posted on 10/14/2009 11:22:49 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (The townhalls were going great until the oPods showed up.)
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