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Natural Born - Whats the big deal?
Examiner.com ^ | 10-18-2009 | Dianna Cotter

Posted on 10/18/2009 12:42:55 PM PDT by Danae

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To: Erik Latranyi

So you to reckon the US Justice system doesn’t work? It is an eye-opener how corrupt the US legal system appears to be. Bent Judges, bent Lawyers, bent Reporters, bent Congress, bent President, bent Police. Where can one find any honesty?


41 posted on 10/18/2009 2:20:40 PM PDT by plenipotentiary (Obama was a BRITISH SUBJECT at birth, passed to him via Pops, can't be NBC)
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To: Erik Latranyi

There has been no SCOTUS case on that issue specifically. The SCOTUS has mentioned in decisions the matter, and makes the clear distinction that there is a difference between Citizen and Natural Born Citizens and says what they are.

Thats why if it goes to SCOTUS, they would have to overthrow previous decisions in part of whole to decide that Obama is a Natural Born Citizen. Something they don’t traditionally like to do.


42 posted on 10/18/2009 2:21:43 PM PDT by Danae (No political party should pick candidates. That's the voters job.)
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To: Non-Sequitur

Exactly. It didn’t do anything but waste time and paper. Totally 100% meaningless.


43 posted on 10/18/2009 2:22:34 PM PDT by Danae (No political party should pick candidates. That's the voters job.)
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To: dalebert

To keep people thinking that he is hiding something.

The real issue has been public for years. His Father is British.

Instead of looking at what is on the table, people are trying to figure out what he has behind his back. The important thing is RIGHT ON THE TABLE and always has been. This is classic Smoke and Mirrors. Obama and his buddies are masters at it.


44 posted on 10/18/2009 2:24:47 PM PDT by Danae (No political party should pick candidates. That's the voters job.)
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To: Erik Latranyi

Lets have a Judge decide it then.


45 posted on 10/18/2009 2:27:49 PM PDT by plenipotentiary (Obama was a BRITISH SUBJECT at birth, passed to him via Pops, can't be NBC)
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To: Cheerio

Nor can any act of congress make a person a Natural Born Citizen. They cannot change the circumstances of a persons birth. Congress is more than just a little irrelevant here.


46 posted on 10/18/2009 2:29:45 PM PDT by Danae (No political party should pick candidates. That's the voters job.)
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To: himno hero
"one with “ruling” experience.... Mugabe!"

For someone who has totally ruined a country in most every aspect, he is doing pretty well at hanging on to power - so far!

47 posted on 10/18/2009 2:29:54 PM PDT by I am Richard Brandon
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To: Caipirabob
As long as the Constitution is no big deal, then the rulings of the Supreme Court are no big deal, the laws from Congress are no big deal, and the executive orders from the President are no big deal, because all of these are ordained and establishes in the Constitution.

-PJ

48 posted on 10/18/2009 2:30:47 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (Comprehensive congressional reform legislation only yields incomprehensible bills that nobody reads.)
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To: Danae
Exactly. It didn’t do anything but waste time and paper. Totally 100% meaningless.

From a legal standpoint, yes. But wasting time and paper doesn't seem unique to the Senate.

49 posted on 10/18/2009 2:31:47 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur

LOL True that. Its their JOB.

/sigh


50 posted on 10/18/2009 2:38:19 PM PDT by Danae (No political party should pick candidates. That's the voters job.)
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To: Danae

Its about loyalty. period.


51 posted on 10/18/2009 2:42:33 PM PDT by Eye of Unk ("If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." T. Paine)
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To: sten
if we can start to disregard random parts of the Constitution, which ALL our law is based on... then what goes next?

As far as I'm concerned (and I think this is your point), all of it, including Article 2, Section 2 (description of powers of the president, for those that don't care to look it up).

(personally... i’m for dropping amendment 16 and defunding the bastards)

Everything after word five of the first amendment.

52 posted on 10/18/2009 3:05:03 PM PDT by Darth Reardon (https://www.doughoffmanforcongress.com/donate3.html)
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To: Danae

you mean the Kenyan is not Kenyon?


53 posted on 10/18/2009 3:07:05 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: Danae

“Natural born” vs “C-section”


54 posted on 10/18/2009 4:18:30 PM PDT by LiteKeeper (When do the impeachment proceedings begin?)
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To: I am Richard Brandon

Watch America under its present course.


55 posted on 10/18/2009 4:21:15 PM PDT by himno hero
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To: Eye of Unk

Yep, and how best and absolutely to certify it. I would imagine that people were still stinging from Benedict Arnold.


56 posted on 10/18/2009 4:27:40 PM PDT by Danae (No political party should pick candidates. That's the voters job.)
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To: Fawn
I posted this to another thread this morning:

This country has gone mad and I am heartsick over it. We have lost all if we loose this crisis of the eligibility issue. It is the quintessential "clear and present danger" and makes all other issues irrelevant if we no longer have a Constitution! Why have so many conservatives in a position to speak out neglected to do so?! What are they afraid of? Are they in the business of keeping their jobs? What job will they hold when we no longer have a land of the free?

I loved these truth-seeking conservatives once upon a time but right now they are like "noisy gongs" who are "choking on gnats while they swallow camels". What have they been threatened with that would keep them from getting to the real issue at hand? The fine elected people in congress are committing grievous breeches of the oaths they took. How do these wimps sleep at night? I am despairing of ever getting this thing corrected, but if we do, I swear to do whatever it takes to remind all future generations of the treachery these people were party to. May the history books lay equal blame on them for their damnable actions and may their names be long remembered as shameless cowards.

I find it difficult to even recite the pledge with the children I teach each morning. I cry each time I consider the precious men and women in service who are at war for a country without a constitution. God help us. We have never needed Him more than we do at this moment. Indeed, God please help us.

57 posted on 10/18/2009 4:30:27 PM PDT by scottiemom ("As a Texas public school teacher, I would highly recommend private school")
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To: scottiemom

Amen


58 posted on 10/18/2009 5:45:45 PM PDT by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: Vigilanteman

There have been multiple bills in the Senate, seeking a Constitutional amendment, in order to have children born abroad of parents serving in the U.S. military considered natural-born citizens, Vigilanteman.

The matter is easily researchable, via your favorite search engine.

S .2678, sponsored by Democrat Claire McCaskill, in 2008, was one.

Another was S. 2128, sponsored by former Republican Senator Don Nickles, in 2004.

These many bills proposing Constitutional amendment, would not have been necessary, if what you contend is true.


59 posted on 10/18/2009 6:43:43 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: LiteKeeper

LOL


60 posted on 10/18/2009 7:37:05 PM PDT by Danae (No political party should pick candidates. That's the voters job.)
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