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HOLY COW !! Look at All New Taxes in Today's House Version of Obamacare
ATR/The Lid ^ | 10/29/09 | The Lid

Posted on 10/29/2009 10:20:36 AM PDT by Shellybenoit

This morning, Nancy Pelosi, the self described "most powerful woman in the world' stood on the Capitol steps and unveiled HR 3962, a bill described by Steny Hoyer as created by via a process that was "deliberative, transparent and open." The Public was not allowed anywhere near the outdoor "open" announcement, and the bill was put together behind non-transparent closed doors.

Ironically the bill (found here online) is called the "Affordable Health Care for America Act." The irony comes from the fact that it is loaded with new taxes, there is nothing affordable about this legislation which increase the burden of both businesses and taxpayers. Below is a comprehensive list compiled by ATR which shows each new tax in the House bill:

(Excerpt) Read more at yidwithlid.blogspot.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Health/Medicine; Military/Veterans; Miscellaneous; Politics; Religion; Society
KEYWORDS: education; elections; government; healthcare; houseobamacare; military; obama; obamacare; palin; politics; taxes
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1 posted on 10/29/2009 10:20:36 AM PDT by Shellybenoit
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To: oldskuulconserv

I actually have a great Donald Duck cartoon from the 2nd WW that shows just how “patriotic” it is to pay taxes. I am afraid to post the link to it, don’t want to get attacked. Can I embed a YouTube video here?


3 posted on 10/29/2009 10:25:41 AM PDT by myfreepress
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To: Shellybenoit

Not only does it raise taxes, it kills babies! What more could a liberal ask for?


4 posted on 10/29/2009 10:35:12 AM PDT by Reddy
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To: Shellybenoit; Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; ...

The list, ping


5 posted on 10/29/2009 10:39:09 AM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Shellybenoit
No burden on evil business here:

"Corporate 1099-MISC Information Reporting (Page 344): Requires that 1099-MISC forms be issued to corporations as well as persons for trade or business payments. Current law limits to just persons for small business compliance complexity reasons. Also expands reporting to exchanges of property."

These people are legally insane.

6 posted on 10/29/2009 10:56:29 AM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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To: Madame Dufarge

“MISC information”. How appropriate...


7 posted on 10/29/2009 11:32:46 AM PDT by Paytriot (Never be afraid to try anything new, Remeber amateurs built the Ark, professionals built the Titanic)
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To: Madame Dufarge

“MISC information”. How appropriate...


8 posted on 10/29/2009 11:33:01 AM PDT by Paytriot (Never be afraid to try anything new, Remeber amateurs built the Ark, professionals built the Titanic)
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To: Shellybenoit; All

Employer Mandate Excise Tax (Page 275): If an employer does not pay 72.5 percent of a single employee’s health premium (65 percent of a family employee), the employer must pay an excise tax equal to 8 percent of average wages. Small employers (measured by payroll size) have smaller payroll tax rates of 0 percent (<$500,000), 2 percent ($500,000-$585,000), 4 percent ($585,000-$670,000), and 6 percent ($670,000-$750,000).

Individual Mandate Surtax (Page 296): If an individual fails to obtain qualifying coverage, he must pay an income surtax equal to the lesser of 2.5 percent of modified adjusted gross income (MAGI) or the average premium. MAGI adds back in the foreign earned income exclusion and municipal bond interest.

Medicine Cabinet Tax (Page 324): Non-prescription medications would no longer be able to be purchased from health savings accounts (HSAs), flexible spending accounts (FSAs), or health reimbursement arrangements (HRAs). Insulin excepted.

Cap on FSAs (Page 325): FSAs would face an annual cap of $2500 (currently uncapped).

Increased Additional Tax on Non-Qualified HSA Distributions (Page 326): Non-qualified distributions from HSAs would face an additional tax of 20 percent (current law is 10 percent). This disadvantages HSAs relative to other tax-free accounts (e.g. IRAs, 401(k)s, 529 plans, etc.)

Denial of Tax Deduction for Employer Health Plans Coordinating with Medicare Part D (Page 327): This would further erode private sector participation in delivery of Medicare services.

Surtax on Individuals and Small Businesses (Page 336): Imposes an income surtax of 5.4 percent on MAGI over $500,000 ($1 million married filing jointly). MAGI adds back in the itemized deduction for margin loan interest. This would raise the top marginal tax rate in 2011 from 39.6 percent under current law to 45 percent—a new effective top rate.

Excise Tax on Medical Devices (Page 339): Imposes a new excise tax on medical device manufacturers equal to 2.5 percent of the wholesale price. It excludes retail sales and unspecified medical devices sold to the general public.

Corporate 1099-MISC Information Reporting (Page 344): Requires that 1099-MISC forms be issued to corporations as well as persons for trade or business payments. Current law limits to just persons for small business compliance complexity reasons. Also expands reporting to exchanges of property.

Delay in Worldwide Allocation of Interest (Page 345): Delays for nine years the worldwide allocation of interest, a corporate tax relief provision from the American Jobs Creation Act

Limitation on Tax Treaty Benefits for Certain Payments (Page 346): Increases taxes on U.S. employers with overseas operations looking to avoid double taxation of earnings.

Codification of the “Economic Substance Doctrine” (Page 349): Empowers the IRS to disallow a perfectly legal tax deduction or other tax relief merely because the IRS deems that the motive of the taxpayer was not primarily business-related.

Application of “More Likely Than Not” Rule (Page 357): Publicly-traded partnerships and corporations with annual gross receipts in excess of $100 million have raised standards on penalties. If there is a tax underpayment by these taxpayers, they must be able to prove that the estimated tax paid would have more likely than not been sufficient to cover final tax liability.

http://www.atr.org/breaking-comprehensive-list-taxesbr-house-democrat-a4113#


9 posted on 10/29/2009 11:44:56 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Madame Dufarge

“Also expands reporting to exchanges of property.”

Crud. I guess I’ll REALLY get in trouble now when I want to ‘share’ a load of rock salt from my shotgun to their backsides, Eh? LOL!

(I know. This IS deadly serious.)


10 posted on 10/29/2009 11:47:49 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Crud. I guess I’ll REALLY get in trouble now when I want to ‘share’ a load of rock salt from my shotgun to their backsides, Eh? LOL!

One must be careful in these instances. If the load were other than rock salt, then the SSS rule could be applied...:-)

Another one of my favorites, authorizing the IRS to read your mind:

Codification of the “Economic Substance Doctrine” (Page 349): Empowers the IRS to disallow a perfectly legal tax deduction or other tax relief merely because the IRS deems that the motive of the taxpayer was not primarily business-related.

11 posted on 10/29/2009 11:55:02 AM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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To: myfreepress

Put in the link...


12 posted on 10/29/2009 12:01:26 PM PDT by ErnBatavia (Mmm mmm mmm - Barack Hussein Obama (repeat endlessly))
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To: Madame Dufarge

That IS terrifying.

This stuff just drives me further underground. I REFUSE to be a producer when all Big Government wants to do is to take, take, take, take, take from me and mine.

Ef-em! :)


13 posted on 10/29/2009 12:10:14 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: ErnBatavia

Here you go everyone. This is when the brainwashing started. It started with a well known cartoon character

Donald Duck and the Beginning of Federal Income Tax

http://myfreepress.net/2009/income-tax-porpaganda.html


14 posted on 10/29/2009 12:14:18 PM PDT by myfreepress
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To: myfreepress

What will they do when nobody pays their taxes?


15 posted on 10/29/2009 12:56:16 PM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

I wonder what would happen if half the population just stopped paying federal taxes and used the constitution to protect themselves?


16 posted on 10/29/2009 1:02:51 PM PDT by myfreepress
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To: myfreepress

We would need to promote the idea ahead and get plenty of media coverage so they can’t throw us in Obama camp.


17 posted on 10/29/2009 1:34:40 PM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
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18 posted on 10/29/2009 6:50:52 PM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: Madame Dufarge

...so who wrote this mess?


19 posted on 10/29/2009 6:58:02 PM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: Madame Dufarge

You’ve gotta love the Socialist aspect of this part:

“Employer Mandate Excise Tax (Page 275): If an employer does not pay 72.5 percent of a single employee’s health premium (65 percent of a family employee), the employer must pay an excise tax equal to 8 percent of average wages. Small employers (measured by payroll size) have smaller payroll tax rates of 0 percent (<$500,000), 2 percent ($500,000-$585,000), 4 percent ($585,000-$670,000), and 6 percent ($670,000-$750,000).”

So ... for no other reason than that you are a larger business, you get hit with a higher surcharge tax rate. Let’s encourage businesses to split up in order to remain small enough to avoid a tax. What a moronic idea. What is this obsession that liberals have with tax brackets ? Only a liberal could believe that a graduated tax is somehow more egalitarian than a flat tax.


20 posted on 10/29/2009 11:26:11 PM PDT by Kellis91789 (Democrat: Someone who supports killing children, but protests executing convicted murderers.)
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