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Ben Stein: Hoffman Lost NY 23 because of "Shockingly Disloyal" Republican - Video
Freedom's Lighthouse ^ | November 4, 2009 | BrianinMO

Posted on 11/04/2009 6:10:20 AM PST by Federalist Patriot

Here is video of Ben Stein last night on Larry King Live where he said Conservative Doug Hoffman lost the New York 23 Congressional Race because the Republican candidate "actively sabotaged" him, and was "shockingly disloyal" in endorsing the Democrat, Bill Owens. Stein was talking about liberal Republican Dede Scozzafava, who was anointed by GOP Party insiders as the candidate, but who eventually withdrew from the race after a revolt by conservatives who refused to support her liberal policies. Stein said Democrats should not be excited about winning a race where Republicans had such a "disloyal" candidate. . . (VIDEO)

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1 posted on 11/04/2009 6:10:21 AM PST by Federalist Patriot
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To: Federalist Patriot

And the shockingly disloyal Republicans who STILL voted for Scozzafava...


2 posted on 11/04/2009 6:12:11 AM PST by AnglePark
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To: Federalist Patriot

Way to pick them , Newt.


3 posted on 11/04/2009 6:13:19 AM PST by techcor (I hope Obama succeeds... in becoming a one term president.)
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To: Federalist Patriot

Ben, Ben, Ben

Aren’t you the guy that donated to Al Franken?

Not that I don’t agree with you about 23


4 posted on 11/04/2009 6:15:12 AM PST by Conservateacher
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To: Federalist Patriot

What is disloyal about it? Her party no longer had a candidate in the race once she dropped out. Her liberal philosophy did have a candidate - Owens. She supported him.


5 posted on 11/04/2009 6:15:35 AM PST by posterchild (Endowed by my Creator with certain unalienable rights.)
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To: AnglePark
Does any one know if there was a “straight ticket” voting box for Dems and Rep's on the ballot?

If so my theory is that many of the uniformed voters may have just checked of the Republican box thinking Hoffman was now the Republican candidate. My theory could be completely off but I wouldn't be surprised if this was the case. There are way too many people, on both sides, that really have no idea what/who they are voting for.

6 posted on 11/04/2009 6:18:12 AM PST by A Texan (Oderint dum metuant)
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To: Federalist Patriot

The Republicans will now have to come up with a real conservative to win the election next year since the Democrat will only be there for one year.


7 posted on 11/04/2009 6:20:38 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: A Texan

And do they have mail in voting. How many ballots were sent prior to Scozza dropping out?


8 posted on 11/04/2009 6:20:53 AM PST by Conservateacher
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To: Federalist Patriot

Plus, Hoffman came across (to me) as somewhat weak and timid. He didn’t exude a lot of confidence. A stronger conservative personality would have beaten Owens easily. IMHO.


9 posted on 11/04/2009 6:21:25 AM PST by TruthBeforeAll (To liberals if something is a complete and utter disaster, it's because there's not enough of it.)
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To: KeyLargo

I hope Hoffman runs again after one year


10 posted on 11/04/2009 6:22:19 AM PST by Mr. K (Deathly afraid one of my typos becomes a freeper catchphrase...I'm series!)
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To: Federalist Patriot

She proved one more point and that is the election run was all about her and not serving the constituents.


11 posted on 11/04/2009 6:22:38 AM PST by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: Federalist Patriot

The republican who went over to the Obama ain. He was liberal, no? So why did wveryone think this was a conservative district?


12 posted on 11/04/2009 6:23:24 AM PST by Hildy
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To: RJS1950

Let’s hope she serves the larger good of waking up Republicans/Conservatives to how far the Left have infiltrated the stupid party.


13 posted on 11/04/2009 6:24:23 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: TruthBeforeAll
How weak and timid can you be if you did the one thing that all the other conservatives in NY23 did not do -- he ran.

Style over substance doesn't make a good candidate.

14 posted on 11/04/2009 6:24:39 AM PST by carton253 (Ask me about Throw Away the Scabbard - a Civil War alternate history.)
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To: Federalist Patriot


In 1930, the Republican-controlled House of Representatives, in an effort to alleviate the effects of the... Anyone? Anyone?... the Great Depression, passed the... Anyone? Anyone? The tariff bill? The Hawley-Smoot Tariff Act? Which, anyone? Raised or lowered?... raised tariffs, in an effort to collect more revenue for the federal government. Did it work? Anyone? Anyone know the effects? It did not work, and the United States sank deeper into the Great Depression. Today we have a similar debate over this. Anyone know what this is? Class? Anyone? Anyone? Anyone seen this before? The Laffer Curve. Anyone know what this says? It says that at this point on the revenue curve, you will get exactly the same amount of revenue as at this point. This is very controversial. Does anyone know what Vice President Bush called this in 1980? Anyone? Something-d-o-o economics. "Voodoo" economics.

Ed Rooney: I did not achieve this position in life by having some snot-nosed punk leave my cheese out in the wind.

Cameron: [singing] When Cameron was in Egypt's land...?let my Cameron go!"

Cameron: Ferris Bueller, you're my hero.

Economics Teacher: Bueller?... Bueller?... Bueller?

15 posted on 11/04/2009 6:24:43 AM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: techcor

Ben Stein’s with us... that’s what’s important.


16 posted on 11/04/2009 6:24:47 AM PST by GOPJ (When I was a child Halloween wasn't a celebration of evil - but a celebration of standing up to evil)
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To: Federalist Patriot

Scozzafava played the turncoat role to perfection. She took the importuning of Rahm Emanuel and Chuckie Schumer. She whined about the “hate” and “lies” that were directed at her. Strange, the only party I know that routinely engages in hate and lies is the Democratic Party. And she let herself be used for robocalls endorsing the Democratic candidate. And we are supposed to believe that this woman was a Republican? Odd, she seems to find the Democratic Party awfully congenial.


17 posted on 11/04/2009 6:24:58 AM PST by popdonnelly (Yes, we disagree - no, we won't shut up - no, we won't quit.)
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To: AnglePark

Ben Stein’s with us... that’s what’s important.


18 posted on 11/04/2009 6:25:10 AM PST by GOPJ (When I was a child Halloween wasn't a celebration of evil - but a celebration of standing up to evil)
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To: Federalist Patriot

It was the uninformed republicans who gave Scazza over five thousand votes.

Truthfully tho, she only dropped out a week ago. Her name was on the ballot Absentees no doubt voted for her and useful idiots made up the rest.

She was no repub and most voters hardly knew a thing about Hoffman.

He did quite well for only being promoted for about ten days.


19 posted on 11/04/2009 6:26:12 AM PST by Carley (OBAMA IS A MALEVOLENT FORCE IN THE WORLD)
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To: carton253

AMEN!!!!!! I so agree!!! He didn’t show “ class”... but I for one am SICK OF CLASS!!! I want substance!


20 posted on 11/04/2009 6:29:13 AM PST by pollywog (staying...... " Under His Wings" Psalm 91:4)
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