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Is ABC's new sci-fi show anti-Obama?
www.daveweinbaum.com ^ | Nov. 4, 2009 | ABC

Posted on 11/04/2009 8:19:02 AM PST by nutsonthebus

"V" takes on Obamamania. Clip at www.daveweinbaum.com.

(Excerpt) Read more at daveweinbaum.com ...


TOPICS: Government; Humor; Society; TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: antiobama; controversy; v; weinbaum
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This sounds suspiciously close to somebody's 2008 campaign promises. Take a look.
1 posted on 11/04/2009 8:19:04 AM PST by nutsonthebus
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To: nutsonthebus

Read that this morning. We TiVo’d it, because we were watching the original last night. But I’m excited about this new one. Loved the old one. And very interesting timing.


2 posted on 11/04/2009 8:20:40 AM PST by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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To: nutsonthebus

“V” was produced back in the 80’s. Long before Obama came along.


3 posted on 11/04/2009 8:22:26 AM PST by scooter2 (IMPEACH OBAMA NOW !)
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To: nutsonthebus
We all may be taken over and eaten by space lizards. But we will save 15% on our car insurance...
4 posted on 11/04/2009 8:22:38 AM PST by BigCinBigD
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To: nutsonthebus

Don’t ask me any questions that may shed me in a bad light-
Anna Obama!


5 posted on 11/04/2009 8:23:03 AM PST by Dr. Ursus
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To: nutsonthebus

It’s about as anti-Obama as Hollywood gets. But the idea in the show is that the aliens have been posing as humans for years causing “un-necessary wars and financial disasters” which you could take as a swipe at Bush. I think the producers are probably trying to satirize our society’s elites in general. I thought the show was ok but I don’t think the script mines this premise with enough wit.


6 posted on 11/04/2009 8:24:38 AM PST by Callahan
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To: scooter2
“V” was produced back in the 80’s. Long before Obama came along.

Tyrants and Despots have been around since the begining of time and many of the brightest points in the history of mankind was when we stood up to them and many of the darkest were when we did not.
7 posted on 11/04/2009 8:26:24 AM PST by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: nutsonthebus
Oh come on...the Obama administration has nothing to do with "V".

One of them is composed of a bunch of evil reptiles that appear human who have infiltrated America in order to destroy it and establish a one world government based on fear and domination. When their plan is almost complete they send a leader out who promises hope and change.

The other one is just a TV show.

8 posted on 11/04/2009 8:28:13 AM PST by DouglasKC
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To: Callahan

The Mrs. and I watched it last night. If political leaders are being characterized as reptiles seeking to use us for personal gain... I think they will have to re-label this a reality show.


9 posted on 11/04/2009 8:28:19 AM PST by Made In The USA (Communists need not apply.)
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To: BigCinBigD

I always thought that the idea of the alien lizards folks needing humans for food was dumb. As if gnawing on Michael Moore’s fat butt is worth interstellar travel.


10 posted on 11/04/2009 8:29:03 AM PST by Callahan
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To: nutsonthebus
Is ABC's new sci-fi show anti-Obama?

Well, James Carville shed his human disguise long ago and regularly appears like the reptile he is.

11 posted on 11/04/2009 8:29:23 AM PST by The Sons of Liberty (FUBO - When 0bama Fails, Freedom Prevails!)
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To: nutsonthebus

I liked it and will watch.


12 posted on 11/04/2009 8:29:55 AM PST by Tenacious 1 (Government For the People - an obviously concealed oxymoron)
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To: nutsonthebus
The show is about the aliens using slogans, the media and good old fashioned union-style thuggery to gain power, while making all sorts of promises of power, wealth and health for followers. It looks like Obama because those are the same things Obama used/is using for power. It would be hard make a "friendly" totalitarian takeover look unlike Obama.
13 posted on 11/04/2009 8:31:57 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Any similarity between V and the Obama admin is just that of Obama and any other totalitarian regime)
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To: DouglasKC

LOL!

BTW - I think this remake is sufficiently different from the original to make it worth watching. It looks really well done.


14 posted on 11/04/2009 8:34:47 AM PST by kidd (Obama: The triumph of hope over evidence)
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To: scooter2
“V” was produced back in the 80’s. Long before Obama came along.

You do realize that there is a re-make, with Morena Baccarin?

Whole new cast, writers, and everything. They even have new ships.

15 posted on 11/04/2009 8:35:21 AM PST by rjsimmon (1-20-2013 The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: nutsonthebus
I watched it. When the V leader promised everyone "universal health care" only after coercing the journalist to set aside his ethical principles "for the greater good", I about fell out of my chair. The whole thing was allegorically about Obama and his dangerous cult-of-personality - the message of "hope", the co-opting of the youth to spread the "word", the media manipulation. It was so blatantly anti-Obama, I'm surprised that it not only aired, but that they could convince so many actors to actually make the thing.

I hope that they don't soften the political overtones moving forward - it's really the only reason to watch.

16 posted on 11/04/2009 8:35:27 AM PST by OldDeckHand (Obamacare - So bad, even Joe Lieberman isn't going to vote for it.)
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To: KarlInOhio

Any dictator coming to power does the same things promise the people everything and when you have secured your power take it all away!


17 posted on 11/04/2009 8:36:57 AM PST by jroneil (2010 is all that matter now!)
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To: nutsonthebus

The leader of the Vs, Anna (0bama), promised universal healthcare.


18 posted on 11/04/2009 8:37:19 AM PST by Lou Budvis ("Don't Just Hope for Better Life - Vote for It." - Thatcher campaign poster)
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To: kidd
BTW - I think this remake is sufficiently different from the original to make it worth watching. It looks really well done.

I watched it last night and I was pretty impressed...it's really good. I do remember watching the original at the time it came out and then I caught an episode a few nights ago on some channel....the new one is much better technically and special effects wise of course.

19 posted on 11/04/2009 8:37:40 AM PST by DouglasKC
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To: rjsimmon
"Morena Baccarin"

I had no idea who that woman was until you named her, but she's worth looking up. Very attractive :)


20 posted on 11/04/2009 8:37:51 AM PST by OldDeckHand (Obamacare - So bad, even Joe Lieberman isn't going to vote for it.)
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To: OldDeckHand

Lovely lady.


21 posted on 11/04/2009 8:40:00 AM PST by listenhillary (A "cult of personality" arises when a leader uses mass media creating idealized/heroic public image)
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To: OldDeckHand

“Morena Baccarin”

If you’ve never watched the short-lived TV series “Firefly” and the follow up movie “Serenity”, then you must.

Must!


22 posted on 11/04/2009 8:41:20 AM PST by El Sordo
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To: scooter2

“V” was produced back in the 80’s. Long before Obama came along.”

Yes, it was a warning against fascism in the United States. For the slow, it had an aged Shoa survivor who compared the V to Nazis.

The fact that V now naturally brings comparisons to Obama says more about Obama’s facists leanings than anything intentional by ABC.


23 posted on 11/04/2009 8:41:39 AM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: OldDeckHand

The Journalist looks an awful lot like George Stephanopolousinous


24 posted on 11/04/2009 8:42:42 AM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: El Sordo
"If you’ve never watched the short-lived TV series “Firefly” and the follow up movie “Serenity”, then you must."

I've been meaning to watch Serenity for some time as it employs an openly conservative actor - Adam Baldwin. And, I hear that Nathan Fillion has made some conservative leaning comments.

25 posted on 11/04/2009 8:43:30 AM PST by OldDeckHand (Obamacare - So bad, even Joe Lieberman isn't going to vote for it.)
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To: nutsonthebus

I am a bit surprised it got made.

But then, this is probably the same crowd that thought Lord of the Rings could be seen as a warning to GWB.


26 posted on 11/04/2009 8:43:51 AM PST by El Sordo
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To: OldDeckHand

They seem to be moving the storyline along pretty quickly. Wonder what it will evolve into now that ABC has kicked out the creators of this version after four epies filmed?
I know one thing if they bring back that Star Child thing I’m gone.


27 posted on 11/04/2009 8:46:16 AM PST by Marty62 (former Marty60)
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To: Jewbacca

If it would have been Jake Tapper doing the interview how long after do you think it be before he was Foie gras?


28 posted on 11/04/2009 8:46:18 AM PST by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: DouglasKC

Classic. Nicely done.


29 posted on 11/04/2009 8:46:37 AM PST by HeadOn (We are coming for the House and Senate seats. Conservatives, Unite!)
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To: OldDeckHand
Watch the TV series first. You will enjoy the movie much, much more if you’ve seen the series first.
30 posted on 11/04/2009 8:47:10 AM PST by El Sordo
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To: OldDeckHand


I, for one, welcome our really hot alien brain-eating overlords.
31 posted on 11/04/2009 8:47:10 AM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: Jewbacca
"The Journalist looks an awful lot like George Stephanopolousinous"

Now that you mention it, he did indeed - especially the helmet-hair haircut.

32 posted on 11/04/2009 8:47:24 AM PST by OldDeckHand (Obamacare - So bad, even Joe Lieberman isn't going to vote for it.)
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To: nutsonthebus
We watched the show last night with this in mind. I heard (and saw) a number of references that rung a bell with me as far as parallels comparisons to another alien (Kenyan specifically). The aliens offered "hope". They offered "changes" that would transform mankind. Anna (or her right-hand man) asked the newscaster man, "wouldn't it be better to forego principles (of journalism - hahahaha) for the "greater good?". Anna told the newscaster not to ask her any questions that would paint them/her in a bad light. Anna mentioned all the medical solutions they could offer to mankind, in which the newscaster said, "you mean universal healthcare so to speak?"

I'm sure there were other references made that I fail to mention, but the commonalities of the show and the liberalspeak we are hearing from Obama and Congress were too many to ignore.

Oh, and one other thing, when the renegade human group secretly met and the leader said that the lizard aliens had infiltrated everywhere much time ago and had caused many of the problems, wars, etc. faced in the past, in order to condition mankind to want a savior of sorts to appear and straighten out the mess, for some reason my thoughts immediately focused on how evil islam has infiltrated our every nook and cranny and now we have a closet muzzie in the highest office in the land. I hope that's one parallel that I'm totally wrong about.

33 posted on 11/04/2009 8:47:33 AM PST by OB1kNOb (As government grows, corruption flows.)
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To: El Sordo

You tell it’s about Obama, from the reviews. Everyone said it was the best ever -— except the NYT:

“the New York Times to write, “The ideas in V, about alien encounters and mass delusion and media manipulation, are enticing. It’s too bad that they’re floating around in a show that at this early stage, is so slapdash and formulaic in its storytelling.”[13]


34 posted on 11/04/2009 8:49:23 AM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: Marty62
"Wonder what it will evolve into now that ABC has kicked out the creators of this version after four epies filmed?"

Oh, they did? That's interesting. It will be interesting to see if the show becomes much less political after the 4th episode.

35 posted on 11/04/2009 8:50:24 AM PST by OldDeckHand (Obamacare - So bad, even Joe Lieberman isn't going to vote for it.)
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To: El Sordo

I just hope they don’t make her eat a guinea pig.


36 posted on 11/04/2009 8:51:01 AM PST by Redcloak ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Callahan
But the idea in the show is that the aliens have been posing as humans for years causing “un-necessary wars and financial disasters”

Some folks think that's literally true.

37 posted on 11/04/2009 8:51:20 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: ArrogantBustard
So is it a Drama of a Documentary? ;-)
38 posted on 11/04/2009 8:53:11 AM PST by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

I suppose that one who subscribes to that point of view would call it a docu-drama. Or a “prophetic warning”. Or some such.


39 posted on 11/04/2009 8:58:21 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

interesting ping. (did we record it for later viewing?)


40 posted on 11/04/2009 8:58:45 AM PST by Mrs. B.S. Roberts
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To: OldDeckHand

She’s a veteran of Firefly and did a couple of seasons of SG1.


41 posted on 11/04/2009 9:00:23 AM PST by dangerdoc
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To: BigCinBigD
We all may be taken over and eaten by space lizards. But we will save 15% on our car insurance...

That's a good one!

42 posted on 11/04/2009 9:00:35 AM PST by marvlus
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To: kidd
In 1983, even aliens had bad hair:


43 posted on 11/04/2009 9:01:19 AM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: nutsonthebus

I liked the promise of universal health care.


44 posted on 11/04/2009 9:01:22 AM PST by dangerdoc
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To: OldDeckHand

Just saw a promo from AMC about a Series called the PRISONER.
It is different from the original Prisioner. Seems to have an element of the Logan’s Run Movie of the 60’s. (Farah Fawcett)
Jim Cervielzal: “ I am not a #. I am a free man.”
November 15th 3 nights.


45 posted on 11/04/2009 9:03:38 AM PST by Marty62 (former Marty60)
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To: OB1kNOb
my thoughts immediately focused on how evil islam has infiltrated our every nook and cranny and now we have a closet muzzie in the highest office in the land.

That really jumped out at me. Sure, the universal health care, and the expectation that the media would be 100% supportive -- those things were easy to link to current perceptions about Obama. But the infiltration was an interesting twist. When the FBI found a dead terrorist, they couldn't trace him at all. He had paperwork, but he seemed to come out of nowhere.

Like, the guy didn't have a birth certificate, college records, or anything else you might expect. But he had a good relationship with terrorists and had been in our midst for quite some time.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

46 posted on 11/04/2009 9:07:12 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Play the Race Card -- lose the game.)
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To: Mrs. B.S. Roberts

Nope. We’ll pick it up next week. Have to watch the pilot online...in our ‘new room’.


47 posted on 11/04/2009 9:18:38 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (An armed man is a citizen. An unarmed man is a subject.)
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To: nutsonthebus

Need we say more ??

48 posted on 11/04/2009 9:19:14 AM PST by Salgak (Acme Lasers presents: The Energizer Border: I dare you to try and cross it. . .)
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To: nutsonthebus

V is anti “Trojans”


49 posted on 11/04/2009 9:29:43 AM PST by School of Rational Thought (Most interesting man in the world.)
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To: nutsonthebus

Taking advantage of V, here’s my letter to the NY Post today:

Congressional Democrats better listen to the voter’s outrage and toss lizard queen Nancy Pelosi overboard or else become visitors in DC.

Reptilian Pelosi has squandered a trillion bucks on pork, sheltered tax cheaters from justice and produced a nightmarish bill for the government takeover of health care that the Wall Street Journal calls the worst piece of legislation ever.

Democrats don’t need an asteroid to hit earth to become extinct if they stick with botoxinated crocodile from San Francisco


50 posted on 11/04/2009 9:30:29 AM PST by y6162 (uish..)
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