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Are the Polar Caps Really Melting Due To Global Warming?
Bluegrass Pundit ^ | Saturday, December 12, 2009 | Bluegrass Pundit

Posted on 12/12/2009 2:34:32 PM PST by Askwhy5times

No. We came out of a 'little ice age' around 1850 and the temperature has increased slightly due to this, but nothing abnormal is happening. Global warming alarmists will tell you the polar caps are melting. This isn't exactly true. The University of Illinois keeps the sea ice data. As you can see from the chart below, Arctic ice is decreasing. However, Antarctic ice is currently increasing. When you combine the two charts into a global sea ice chart, you can see sea ice has been very stable for the last 150 years.

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KEYWORDS: antarctic; arctic; globalwarming; seaice
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Charts are a little off center. I am such a noob. :(
1 posted on 12/12/2009 2:34:33 PM PST by Askwhy5times
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To: Askwhy5times

No. We have been stable or cooling since 1998. AGW is a fraud. It is much more realistic to worry about global cooling.


2 posted on 12/12/2009 2:38:58 PM PST by HerrBlucher (Jail Al Gore and the Climate Frauds!)
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To: Askwhy5times

Actually they’re disappearing due to creative airbrushing ..


3 posted on 12/12/2009 2:39:05 PM PST by SkyDancer ('Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not..' ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Askwhy5times; According2RecentPollsAirIsGood; livius; DollyCali; FrPR; TenthAmendmentChampion; ...
 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

4 posted on 12/12/2009 2:40:25 PM PST by steelyourfaith (Time to prosecute Al Gore now that fellow scam artist Bernie Madoff is in stir.)
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To: Askwhy5times
This is so depressing, and right before Christmas too.

I need the oceans to rise about 250 ft so I can have water front property.

5 posted on 12/12/2009 2:40:26 PM PST by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: Askwhy5times

The Best of Al Bore:

"The Polar Ice Cap Will Be GONE in 5 Years!"

Click on the image below to see Al Gore claim that the ice cap will vanish in five years!

(It will not. It is thicker and larger than ever.)


"The center of the Earth is millions of degrees..."

The center of the earth is estimated to actually be between 4000 and 6-7000 degrees.

:)



6 posted on 12/12/2009 2:40:47 PM PST by Bon mots
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To: Askwhy5times
I heard today that a bunch of islands in the pacific is loosing land mass proof is a picture of a grave yard underwater. And they want restitution for the loss of land funny though there has not been any rise in sea levels any where around the continents of of that region just around the islands which suggest the islands are sinking and the water is not rising.
7 posted on 12/12/2009 2:43:07 PM PST by guitarplayer1953 (Romak 7.62X54MM, AK47 7.62X39MM, LARGO 9X23MM, HAPINESS IS A WARM GUN BANG BANG YEA YEA)
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To: Bon mots

al gore with the flame thrower is to funny—lmao.. i think the earth’s climate change is natural, and not man made. earth’s weather patterns have been changing since the beginning and will continue if man was here or not— is man the cause of the ice age?


8 posted on 12/12/2009 2:48:12 PM PST by chicken head
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To: Askwhy5times
Are the Polar Caps Really Melting Due To Global Warming?

No.

They are melting because there is wealth that must be redistributed.

9 posted on 12/12/2009 2:48:37 PM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Bon mots
"The Polar Ice Cap Will Be GONE in 5 Years!"

If so it's because of Creation not because of the created.

10 posted on 12/12/2009 2:50:43 PM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: guitarplayer1953
They have found caves in the Tuvalu area 40 meters under water with signs of human habitation. Thousands of years old. The place has been sinking for a long time. The well known historical concept of subsidence is thrown out the window when the cult of global warming gets involved. Much like the Sun, our fundamental heat source, is completely ignored.
11 posted on 12/12/2009 2:58:13 PM PST by allmost
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To: Askwhy5times
Are the Polar Caps Really Melting Due To Global Warming?

They might be melting because of "Global Warming" as that's a natural earth event. Global Cooling is a natural event, too.

BUT, the real and relevant question here -- is not -- is it because of Global Warming (which might be true) -- the real and relevant question is -- is it because of "Anthropogenic Global Warming" ... :-)



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12 posted on 12/12/2009 2:59:40 PM PST by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: Askwhy5times
The author of the book, NOT BY FIRE BUT BY ICE has a website, Ice Age Now and he says that it is NOT "global" warming, but rather what is occurring is OCEAN WARMING, which is a natural precursor to an... ICE AGE.
13 posted on 12/12/2009 3:10:44 PM PST by hennie pennie
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To: Askwhy5times

Fluctuations most likely due to the natural wobble of the Earth.


14 posted on 12/12/2009 3:39:16 PM PST by bgill (The framers of the US Constitution established an entire federal government in 18 pages.)
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To: bgill

Please! Do not try to use logic with these eco-retards. It will only further enrage them and drive them to make greater fools of them selves.


15 posted on 12/12/2009 3:44:34 PM PST by hal ogen
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To: Askwhy5times

I don’t care if they are warming, I don’t care if they are cooling, I don’t care if they are staying the same...

Mankind is not responsible for any of it... period

TT


16 posted on 12/12/2009 3:52:36 PM PST by TexasTransplant (NEMO ME IMPUNE LACESSET)
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To: HerrBlucher; Askwhy5times; SkyDancer

If I remember my geography correctly, there is no land mass under the North Pole anyway, so if the ice cover melts, the water levels won’t rise an inch. The Inuits can all buy convertibles and cut off jean shorts and start growing vegetables instead of killing all those furry little innocents for food. Sounds like everybody wins with GW to me.


17 posted on 12/12/2009 4:10:57 PM PST by Hardastarboard (Maureen Dowd is right. I DON'T like our President's color. He's a Red.)
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If I remember my geography correctly, there is no land mass under the North Pole anyway, so if the ice cover melts, the water levels won’t rise an inch

true except for Greenland. But there are a few caveats to Greenland, while the whole thing melting would cause about 30 feet (IIRC) of sea level rise, the whole thing won't melt even if temps get back to Medieval levels. The proof is fairly simple, although Greenland was tree and habitable on the edges back then, sea levels were no more than 1/2 meter higher.

Another caveat is that while Greenland's glaciers sped up a bit in the 80's, 90's and early 00's, in 2005 they abruptly slowed to pre-80's speeds. The faster motion was not going to flood the world either. A final caveat is that even taking all of Greenland's ice and sticking it in the Sahara, it would take centuries to melt absorbing all the Saharan sunshine. The only flood would come from it somehow turning into slush and flowing into the ocean which would obviously raise sea levels. But there is no realistic danger of that and the current trend is the other direction.

18 posted on 12/12/2009 5:51:28 PM PST by palmer (Cooperating with Obama = helping him extend the depression and implement socialism.)
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Hardastarboard: If I remember my geography correctly, there is no land mass under the North Pole anyway, so if the ice cover melts, the water levels won’t rise an inch. The Inuits can all buy convertibles and cut off jean shorts and start growing vegetables instead of killing all those furry little innocents for food. Sounds like everybody wins with GW to me.

palmer: true except for Greenland. But there are a few caveats to Greenland, while the whole thing melting would cause about 30 feet (IIRC) of sea level rise, the whole thing won't melt even if temps get back to Medieval levels. The proof is fairly simple, although Greenland was tree and habitable on the edges back then, sea levels were no more than 1/2 meter higher.

Another caveat is that while Greenland's glaciers sped up a bit in the 80's, 90's and early 00's, in 2005 they abruptly slowed to pre-80's speeds. The faster motion was not going to flood the world either. A final caveat is that even taking all of Greenland's ice and sticking it in the Sahara, it would take centuries to melt absorbing all the Saharan sunshine. The only flood would come from it somehow turning into slush and flowing into the ocean which would obviously raise sea levels. But there is no realistic danger of that and the current trend is the other direction.

True to a certain extent, but oversimplified. Global warming could open enormous tracts of agriculturally useless land in Siberia, Mongolia, Canada, Scandinavia, Alaska and Manchuria for human development. On the other hand, removing the weight of the ice on millions of square miles of land will increase volcanic activity. Deep inside the earth's crust, the pressure can reach thousands of pounds per square inch. The weight of the ice presses down on the earth's crust, increasing this pressure and prevents the formation of magma, in parts of the earth that would otherwise be sprouting active volcanoes like a 14-year-old sprouting zits. (See Iceland and the Aleutian Islands for examples.)

19 posted on 12/12/2009 6:33:17 PM PST by Philo1962 (Iraq is terrorist flypaper. They go there to die.)
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To: palmer
I was an Air Force Inspector on the DEW Line in 1970. I traveled to ALL the sites from Pt Lay Alaska, about 100 miles from Siberia to Kulusuk Greenland about 250 miles to Iceland. I saw it all. The oil rigs on the ANWAR, Polar Bears, Elk Herd migration, (24,000 then 130,000 now!), whales, walrus herds, seals and white falcons!

When we visited the two icecap sites they were at approximately 10,000' above sea level. I spoke with several geologist who were studying Greenland and here's what the said. The icecap was so heavy that the land on which they stood was actually below sealevel. The ice was melting due to the pressure of two miles of ice. Every year the snow replaced the ice melting below and thus the top of the icecap varied a few feet over time.

The DEW Line stations were built on stilts and ever few years the tops of the stilts were opened and additional I Beam were attached ad the jacks attached to the site would jack the site back up to operational height. We traveled to these sites on the pictured ski equipped C-130s. Supplies and stuff was flown in as required. The temperature at these sites were approximately the temperature on Mars! A high of 30 degrees and a low of -60 degrees. When the wind blow and storms formed the temperature might reach -90 degrees below zero. While traveling from Dye 2 to Dye 3 we had to wait because the Air forec would not let it's aircraft fly when the temp was -65 or lower. On that day it was -73 and it was five days before it "warmed up" to -63!

First picture was 1986 and second in 2006. See the snow build up!

20 posted on 12/12/2009 6:45:11 PM PST by Young Werther ("Quae Cum Ita Sunt - Julius Caesar "Since these things are so!")
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