Yesterday, I posted a link to #157 that was broken, or didn't work for everyone; sorry 'bout that. Since it is an important comment, here is a second try.
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Posted on 12/26/2009 8:02:56 PM PST by USALiberty
US Military Forces are refusing to take Orders from Obama unless he can prove he is a US Citizen. They plan Court action as theie Lawyers are taking Briefs as we speak.
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In that short time he has made more the 200 posts against this issue ONLY!!
He has NOT posted anything Conservative constructive on any other issues, therefore he is definitely an organized infiltrated plant from outside. 'Nuf said!!!
Winning on logic, what's that all about, winning, hello!!!
See post 181 then YOU will understand about the ringing???
One way to tell if you are over the target is the amount of flak thrown at you. We must be doing a fine job. ;0)
How right you are and more and more newbie trolls are showing up here and the older trolls are no longer posting, so they have changed screen names. Sad they think we can’t figure it out.
Congratulation. The best post so far on this thread, KUDOS, and hallelujah!!!
In your wording our Constitution is also irrelevant!!!
How is it making out for you when his brow-shirts knocking on your door, if you don't buy a Health Insurance and can be hauled out to jail. Is that irrelevant tooooo???
Presidential
Candidate Vice Presidential
Candidate Political
Party Popular Vote Electoral Vote
Barack H. Obama Joseph R. Biden, Jr. Democratic 69,499,428 52.87% 365 67.8%
John S. McCain, III Sarah H. Palin Republican 59,950,323 45.60% 173 32.2%
Ralph Nader Matt Gonzalez Independent 739,278 0.56% 0 0.0%
Bob Barr Wayne Allyn Root Libertarian 523,433 0.40% 0 0.0%
As a planted mole and an "AFTER-BIRTHER" you are very lax with the truth still using the misleading Cloward-Piven tactics!
Hillary and Bill were the first official "BIRTHERS"!!
Bill was asked the question and he answered: "Yes, if he is qualified"!!
Soon after that he said he was hit with the "RACE-CARD," and they both became mum on THAT issue, end of story!!!
I took the figures from your favor news channel CNN, so they must be lying again???
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/results/president/
"I will agree that there is no simple, easy, readily available consensus that as a Dual-born, Obama is not NBC."
There is plenty of evidence that the framers intent was to remove foreign influence and divided loyalties from the position of the Commander in Chief. See Jay's writings (pre - with letter to Washington and post - Federalist Papers) for a few examples.
Someone born with, or having at the time of office holding, dual citizenship means that person is beholden to another country's laws. There is a very good reason why the framers choose to prohibit (with the NBC clause) someone with dual, or divided loyalties from being President and CinC of the military.
Thanks for the clarification. I can’t believe there are folks out there that believe we shouldn’t violate the President’s privacy. My idea is then, fine! Then get out of the White House, and lets fine someone that shows us he can abide by the Constitution.
Yes. I do. It's really that simple.
Then please cite the law or regulation which so obligates them.
If his grandmother filed it “It's done”???
If his grandmother filed it with no hospital or doctor corroboration, he could have been born anywhere. HI was very lax in requiring evidence of actual HI birth even as much as a year or more after an alleged birth.
A grandmother report is exactly the type of HI vital record that opens the serious possibility of a Kenya birth, while a hospital long form with a doctor's signature would shut down that possibility in my mind.
Remember the incessant lefty insult hurled at Bush that he was “incurious”? In my view, folks satisfied with Obama’s failure to release his HI vital records are incurious.
From the Honolulu Advertiser:
[[The Obama campaign said it has posted a copy of his birth certificate at www.fightthesmears.com in response to Internet chatter that the Illinois senator is not a natural-born citizen. But the posting has done little to curb the nearly weekly requests to the Health Department for copies of the original, Okubo said.
Some skeptics point to the lack of an official state seal on the birth certificate posted on the Obama campaign Web site.
But seals often are placed on the back of the birth certificate, Okubo said, “and whether it shows through depends on how much force was put into it.”
Others wonder why a large black rectangle appears next to the words, “CERTIFICATE NO.”
“The thing that's redacted is just our file number,” she said. “Potentially, if you have that number, you could break into the system.”
Health officials contacted the Obama campaign a few months ago in response to the persistent inquiries “to see if they could try and resolve the issue with the people who were asking questions,” she said.
“They responded and apparently it isn't good enough that he posted his birth certificate,” Okubo said. “They say they want it because they claim he is not a citizen of the United States. It's pretty ridiculous.”]]
It's really not ambiguous. All credible information indicates that Obama really was born in Hawaii. Okubo and company really are just hapless bureaucrats being hassled by a delusional fringe element. If it bothers people so much, they should try and get laws passed in their state as to what constitutes proper certification for the ballot, not pursue court cases that are deranged and incompetent. I'm sorry, but that's what they are.
Whatever his birth certificate says was recorded and filed over forty years ago. It is the legal, factual record of his birth. Finding out his grandmother filed it, which we have no reason to believe is the case, all hyperventilating aside, doesn't change that. It would get the birthers all excited again, but they still have no meaningful factual evidence to dispute the legal records of the state in question. Even assuming you could get this before a court, which I don't think you can, the court would be left with the official record of the state in question versus some people with a bunch of suspicions forty years after the fact. In our legal system, that's no contest.
I disagree. Obama’s refusal to release his original vital records screams out that he also believes it matters and is hiding something.
If what Obama is hiding is a report by grandma of a home birth, I believe that financial and investigative resources would be made available to intensify efforts to validate the Kenya BCs by folks who would be emboldened by the opening such a report would allow for a foreign birth.
All it would take is blood in the water. D’Onofrio’s quo warranto placing the burden of proof on Obama might just provide that blood.
The self-authenticating presumption of authenticity that the HI vital records and the COLB are entitled to under the FRE is not absolute, but can be challenged if credible authentication of a Kenya birth can be found.
Kenya is corrupt, but lots of folks have been protecting Obama, and as his popularity and power continue to fade, so will his protection. Individuals in Kenya or the US may yet come forward with testimony and documents that can be authenticated. You and I just don't know what would come out if a report of a home birth by grandma was revealed.
Link please!
Elementary school registration book from Indonesia doesn't count for me. It has no legal standing and could have been a convenient misrepresentation by Obama’s parents.
Yesterday, I posted a link to #157 that was broken, or didn't work for everyone; sorry 'bout that. Since it is an important comment, here is a second try.
Check out #157.
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