Posted on 12/26/2009 8:02:56 PM PST by USALiberty
US Military Forces are refusing to take Orders from Obama unless he can prove he is a US Citizen. They plan Court action as theie Lawyers are taking Briefs as we speak.
(Excerpt) Read more at youtube.com ...
That’s funny, been hearing that “Let’s beat him on the issues” and “Just wait until the elections” since mid summer of last year (2008).
How’s that working?
Walk...Chew gum???
This tired line of "he was born in Hawaii and that's the way it is" IS a bunch of BS and you know it. However, I'll pretend to agree with you and add "HE IS A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN" PLUS HE'S LINCOLN HIMSELF! How is that?
Now, he has to be dumped ASAP for the good of our beloved country. We're not dealing with "just" a lousy, "Socialist" president; we're dealing with a destructive, Communist ghost. If you already don't know that, you're not a clear-thinking Conservative.
You say: The [BC] battle is lost. Fine, where are all the other records that EVERY American should have or can obtain? Specifically, where are his "brilliant" school records? Nobody knows who this POS is. PERIOD.
I don't blame the military of not taking orders from a ghost, orders and ROE that might cost them their lives. Orders from a mole that worries about the terrorists more than his "fellow" Americans, the ones he swore to protect, together with that 4-page inconvenient document called the Constitution.
Ghoster
Meaning...since we know Sr. didn't adopt Jr. after Jr. was adopted by Soetoro...right, his current legal B.C. must list his father as Soetoro. Of course, that would mean his original B.C. (whatever it may show) was amended, and I believe Attorney Donofrio & Mrs Tickly had come to the conclusion that indeed, his BC was amended.
Therefore, what has been posted in cyber-space is in fact a forgery based on that issue alone.
Do not equate the entire U.S. military with a few dimwits.
His adoptive father Soetoro, though very possibly important as to his current citizenship status, has absolutely no relevance to his legal father at birth, nor to the information on his original long form BC. Although we don't know for sure, his legal father at birth was presumed to be the British (later Kenyan) citizen Barack Hussein Obama (Sr.). (In fact, an "official" Obama web site had admitted to Barack Sr.'s British citizenship at the time of Barack II's birth.) According to some legal opinions, BHO Jr. cannot be a natural born citizen if his father was not an American citizen at the time of his birth, which would appear to be the factual reality. So, pursuant to this line of argument, he would not qualify constitutionally for POTUS under such a circumstance.
You failed to mention the RINO governor of Hawaii, Ms. Lingle, with whom the proverbial "buck stops" in Hawaii state government.
Thanks Lucy; I do appreciate all your effort.
I try not to declare speculation to be fact without sufficient evidence and for me, I'm not there yet.
I agree that there is circumstantial evidence of adoption by Soetoro (the elementary school register in Indonesia, likely enrollment as a foreign Muslim student at Occidental) but what additional hard evidence is there for this alleged adoption? Parents lie on elementary school registrations all the time if it will gain advantages for their children!
It would obviously be convenient for Lolo to register Barry with the name Soetoro and to call Barry a citizen of Indonesia. Maybe Lolo adopted Barry in Indonesia (and good luck to all in getting documentation of that after Obama’s life record has been removed from the planet).
Was there even enough administrative time between the SADO-LOLO marriage and their departure for Indonesia for an adoption of Barry to have been completed?
Leo and Miss Tickly may have inferred (not proved) that there was an amendment of the vital record, but that could have been for multiple reasons, such as location of birth. not just adoption.
Hope you have a Happy New Year.
As provided by law (HRS §§338-17.7, 338-20.5), the following persons may apply for an amended certificate of birth:
* A person born in the State of Hawaii who already has a birth certificate filed with the Department of Health and
1. has become legally adopted, or
2. has undergone a sex change operation, or
3. a legal determination of the nonexistence of a parent and child relationship for a person identified as a parent on the birth certificate on file has been made, or
4. previously recorded information in relation to the person’s surname and/or the father’s personal particulars has been altered pursuant to law.
* A person born in a foreign country who has been legally adopted in the State of Hawaii.
...
For a person born in a foreign country who has been legally adopted in the State of Hawaii:
* An amended birth certificate will be prepared upon receipt of a certified copy of the adoption decree or the certificate of adoption, and payment of fees."
http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/vital-records/newbirthcert.html
Thank you, LucyT!
... And a Happy New Year to you!
STE=Q
What is this?
You surrender easily. How do you know he was born in HI? Does not matter - his father is a British citizen.
Some may find this of interest:
Sun Yat Sen - Certificate of Hawaiian Birth. Although he was born in China.
Description:
Although Sun Yat Sen was born November 12, 1866 in the village of Cuiheng in southern China, he was able to obtain a Certificate of Hawaiian Birth. Said certificate was issued by the Territory of Hawaii on March 1904, stating he was born on November 24, 1870 in the Hawaiian Islands by signing a affidavit declaring so, along with evidence from witnesses, and providing a photograph of himself.
DISCLAIMER: I have no idea as to the authenticity of this document, but only submit it for the forum’s perusal
STE=Q
Thank you ... I have a feeling the video
is old ... Lt. Easterling’s case was quite
awhile ago, and there’s nothing out there
that’s current that I find.
What have you done about it?! I have cancelled TV because they enable the libs and steal your freedom because they back him. I am cutting off money to CNN, ABC, CBS, MSNBC, NBC etc Fox is 20% owned by Saudis.
The money I save will go to donate to conservative Repubs. I also plan to be a poll watcher in 2010 and 2012. What are you doing??
Try to study the issue before spouting off. He is not NBC and is not eligible. This is why they are covering it. You DU Dummy.
Some may find this of interest:
Sun Yat Sen - Certificate of Hawaiian Birth. Although he was born in China.
Description:
Although Sun Yat Sen was born November 12, 1866 in the village of Cuiheng in southern China, he was able to obtain a Certificate of Hawaiian Birth. Said certificate was issued by the Territory of Hawaii on March 1904, stating he was born on November 24, 1870 in the Hawaiian Islands by signing a affidavit declaring so, along with evidence from witnesses, and providing a photograph of himself.
DISCLAIMER: I have no idea as to the authenticity of this document, but only submit it for the forum’s perusal.
STE=Q
Some may find this of interest:
Sun Yat Sen - Certificate of Hawaiian Birth. Although he was born in China.
Description:
Although Sun Yat Sen was born November 12, 1866 in the village of Cuiheng in southern China, he was able to obtain a Certificate of Hawaiian Birth. Said certificate was issued by the Territory of Hawaii on March 1904, stating he was born on November 24, 1870 in the Hawaiian Islands by signing a affidavit declaring so, along with evidence from witnesses, and providing a photograph of himself.
DISCLAIMER: I have no idea as to the authenticity of this document, but only submit it for the forum’s perusal.
STE=Q
Well, the folks from Hawaii, (planet Earth, btw, same planet I live on) said they had his documents on file and those documents on file appeared to be genuine But refused to further comment on the doctored image of a purported Certification of Live Birth allegedly verifying the birth of Barrack Obama posted by liberal Obama Supporters on their websites.
Did Obama state that that was his Birth Certificate? No. Obviously, it isn't, but an image purporting to be a factual image of a derrivative document generated by the State of Hawaii.
Even the State of Hawaii refused to state the information contained in the document image was genuine.
So what did the folks from Hawaii say?
They said they have his original document (But not that it was a Birth Certificate issued by the State). They said that they would not comment on the documents they had in their custody pursuant to their laws.
“The thing that's redacted is just our file number,” she said. “Potentially, if you have that number, you could break into the system.”
So anyone with a genuine Certification of Live Birth could hack the system? Ri-ight. Or do all the issued Certification of Live Birth documents have a big black rectangle there?
<Health officials contacted the Obama campaign a few months ago in response to the persistent inquiries “to see if they could try and resolve the issue with the people who were asking questions,” she said. “They responded and apparently it isn't good enough that he posted his birth certificate,” Okubo said. “They say they want it because they claim he is not a citizen of the United States. It's pretty ridiculous.
Note, if you will, that the "they" in bold responding were people from the Obama campaign who would have been run off promptly if they admitted that:
1: The document image on line was not of a Birth Certificate, but an image of a Certification of Live Birth. Not the same thing.
2: The document image posted online had been tampered with. This is not cause for faith in the assertions of the Obama Campaign people that we are supposed to accept an altered image of a document online as being evidence of anything, much less his Natural Born Citizen status.
Even if I posted a true and correct image of my documents online, the agencies which require the presentation of those documents from time to time would not accept that as evidence of the existence of those documents, nor should they.
Obama was running for President of the United States, the presentation of the actual document is not so much to ask, considering it is required of every kindergarden student in the US upon registration for school.
All credible information indicates that Obama really was born in Hawaii.
Yep. And there isn't any credible evidence.
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