Skip to comments.Evaluating the Progressive Amendments
Posted on 01/02/2010 3:26:13 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
At around the turn of the century, before or just after World War I, the progressive amendments were passed. Not since the post Civil War era was there ever such a speedy passage of amendments to the Constitution or since. In a period of about 10 years or so, we saw four radical amendments passed and ratified into the Constitution. They are amendments 16, 17, 18, and 19.
The era in which they were passed was one of optimism among the American Left and many of the influential leaders. New areas of science were opening up as well as new technologies. The inventers Tesla and Edison were bringing us into a new era of technological advancement. The Industrial Age had brought about a higher standard of living for everyone. Things were looking up for humanity and especially America.
The American Left, despite never really gaining much traction in popularity, was able to pass four amendments, all of them of questionable benefit. Now that it has been almost a century since their passage, I think it is time to re-evaluate them all:
So that about sums my attitude about the progressive amendments. Really I think theyve done more than good as they were originally intended. I doubt that the progressives could have really conceived of the long-term dangers involved in the passage of these amendments. For the most part, they were just a collection of people with good intentions and a complete lack of foresight.
This should be a lesson we all learn when it comes to the current administration. Obama is a deluded fool who probably doesnt believe half the stuff he says in public and thoroughly believes in the goodness of his private goals, whatever they truly are. But make no mistake, this will end badly for us if we fail to remain vigilant and prevent him from causing as much harm as we can.
At least the Progressives had enough respect for the Constitution to put their changes through in the form of an amendment. The current bunch of leftists are acting as if the document doesn’t even exist.
So, Mr. American Taliban, do you still beat your wife? In this case, it’s a legitimate question.
Oh, yay. Another “Wimmin ur evil” thread.
You woman-hating freaks are just as evil as the Islamonazis who flew planes into buildings. I’ve fought for conservative causes all my life while liberal males have voted straight D like sheep. Yet you want to take away MY right to vote. What’s next, banning women from owning guns? Legalizing rape?
You want to take away my guns? Come and get them, you Taliban-worshipping asswipe.
Its unrealistic to repeal the 19th and will never happen, but not the 16th amendment. Tax reform is the biggest issue to me. The 16th amendment was passed to primarily fund WW I. Just look at how they use it today.
Chill out. You may not like it but a strong majority of women vote progressive. If not for the 19th Ammendment, Obama wouldn’t have been elected. Now go ahead and continue shooting the messengers.
I tried to read Lott’s analysis of government growth corresponding with women’s suffrage, but it was basically written in over-my-head terms that only other stat geeks could understand.
I have no idea whether government growth actually took place because the new women’s voting bloc supported said growth, or because government simply took advantage of the new voting bloc.
So that’s a reason to reduce women to the status of children or slaves? So what about all the flaming leftist MEN?
Since when is 53% a strong majority? Anyway, why should conservative women be punished for the sins of liberal women? We don’t blame you for the sins of liberal men like Carter or Clinton or Obama. I thought conservatives were supposed to judge people as individuals, not collectively. Guess you’re no conservative.
Now go ahead and keep spitting on conservative women, while giving liberal males a pass. And keep fantasizing about denying us the right to own guns. Fantasizing is as close as you’ll ever get.
It’s all academic anyway. CIDKauf is right to say that the 19th will never be repealed.
>So, Mr. American Taliban, do you still beat your wife? In this case, its a legitimate question.
So, Ms. Gaia-Demo-Lite, so you appreciate the scourge of Communism foisted on us c/o the plethora of silly chicks who vote for Democrats?
Given Democrats wouldn’t have this country in a bind were it not for all the easy liberal chicks who vote, it’s a legitimate question.
Please do not give me how you’re this great Conservative/Christian, and you blah blah blah blah. Bottom line, women pick badly as a group.
I am a tax-payer. Only people who have paid taxes for 7 years should vote. This eliminates college students (Obama constituency), and welfare recipients (another Obama constituency). This alone would do much to not have politicians reminiscent of vaudeville acts.
However, I am confident if I belonged to a group of people who OVERWHELMINGLY pick the wrong people, I would be the first to say, “They should not vote”.
In fact, I do belong to such a group. I am a renter. Despite being a renter, I say, “Only land owners should vote.” I would be much happier with the voting system if only land owners voted, even as a tax-payer.
In fact, I take it even further. I am not military. Yet despite this shortcoming, I say, “Beyond landowners, only present and ex-military should vote.”
Do you see your own limitations? Or are you like all typical people, and think that you are great, and it’s all the other people that are the problem? Would you take a step back, so that this country could take 10 steps forward?
How far are you from being a holier than thou, finger wagging self-righteous liberal?
A larger percentage of blacks vote Democrat than the percentage of women. So, why aren’t you clamoring for the black vote to be taken away? If that dang civil rights movement hadn’t happened, Obama wouldn’t have gotten elected, right? For chauvinist, women hating pigs, this comparison probably won’t show them the depth of their hypocrisy and stupidity, unfortunately. To them, women really are subhuman. Losers.
Geez, should I have popped some popcorn when I posted this thread?
(And how “overwhelmingly” do women vote the “wrong” way, anyway? I heard one thing about how Al Gore would have won easily (perhaps with 320 electoral votes) if only women had voted, but besides that, I’m not sure. And if an all-male electorate had picked W with 320 EVs, I’m not sure if that’s much better, as you can see what he helped to do to the country prior to the reign of 0b0z0.)
Discussion is fine. Let’s keep it at that and avoid personal abuse.
What bugs ME even more is somebody who hits the abuse button because somebody else got angry and hurt his/her widdle feewings.
But the kitties are everywhere. Everywhere.
Throw in the twenty sixth amendment which enfranchised 18 year olds, and moter voter, and its really no surprise that the US government is now controlled by marxists.
This won't be solved at the ballot box, this Republic will fall, but what will rise from the ashes will be a system where the vote is restricted to tax payers and veterans.
i understand your point on the womens suffrage, however, most states did not allow women to vote. and many would not have changed those laws without constitutional intervention. i wonder why this amendment causes you irritation and not the amendments that allow other ethnic and racial groups a constitutional right to vote? are they not just as progressive and big government as the one for womens suffrage?
Probably wishful thinking as one half are to scared and the other half want blood.
Actually, while we all like to vilify the 16th, the worst was really the 17th, that removed the representation of the states, as states, in Congress. There would be none of the mischief created by unfunded mandates (which is a major mechanism the left uses for its mischief) if every Senator knew that if he gave his state government grief, he’d be out of a job at the end of his term.
First of all, I personally didn’t write the article, and second of all, as I understood it, most states actually DID allow women to vote prior to ratification of the 19th, and third of all, I’m not opposed to women’s suffrage. I would be content with some way of successfully dragging liberals into the 18th Century (collectivism, I’m sure, is as old as civilization itself) and then, hopefully, into the 21st.
okay. sorry, i misunderstood and thought you were the author. i agree it would be nice to get liberals to think like modern people, or intelligent people, or well hell PEOPLE period. i really do not think it can be done though. perhaps we should give up and just evacuate them all to antarctica?
Isn't that the general vote percentage? I'd be interested to know what the women's percentage for 0b0z0 was, compared to the men's percentage, which I suspect favored 0b0z0 as well this time around.
(And I am aware that the women's vote no doubt went for Ronald Reagan in both 80 and 84.)