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Leftwing Hypocrisy on Standing Armies Used Against Citizens
Conservative Examiner ^ | 4/14/2010 | Anthony G. Martin

Posted on 04/14/2010 12:09:43 PM PDT by Welshman007

In the current controversy over the 80,000-troop 'Consequence Management Response Force' that is charged in part with 'helping with civil unrest,' the hypocrisy of the Leftwing has become abundantly clear when it comes to standing armies being used against American citizens.

The program was planned and the first stage was implemented under the administration of George W. Bush. At that time the program involved only one brigade of the 3rd infantry at Fort Stewart.

Since 2008 the program has been expanded to include personnel from all branches of the military, far beyond Fort Stewart, and far beyond the meager 6000 troops or so that were initially part of the plan.

The Leftwing, however, claims that Americans should not be worried, that this program is designed only to serve the citizens in the event of a major, catastrophic national disaster--although the plan itself states plainly that part of its role is to 'help with civil unrest.'

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1 posted on 04/14/2010 12:09:43 PM PDT by Welshman007
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To: Welshman007

GOP wins the election = civil unrest?

remember when that was just a “temper tantrum”?


2 posted on 04/14/2010 12:13:49 PM PDT by GeronL (Entitlement Zombies will become real zombies when the money runs out)
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To: Welshman007

Those of you “I GOTS MY GUNS” people, should take note of my tagline.


3 posted on 04/14/2010 12:22:39 PM PDT by ROTB (Armed revolt, INVITES a foreign power to attack during the chaos. Fix the church to fix the USA.)
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To: ROTB
I think we should also take note that this began during a "Republican Administration" and now continues through the usurper thugocracy.

Me thinks this has been planned all along by traitors to this nation OF BOTH PARTIES!!

4 posted on 04/14/2010 12:32:49 PM PDT by Ranger Drew
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To: Welshman007

The problem faced by either the left OR RINO republican, would-be dictators is that the majority of troops would join with the American people! That coupled with the fact that there are one hell of a lot more of us than of them makes the whole thing quite silly.


5 posted on 04/14/2010 12:37:36 PM PDT by Oldpuppymax
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To: Oldpuppymax

You honestly believe that the US Navy would not side with the govt? Would you lead the charge into Camp Pendleton or try to take over a nuke sub or aircraft carrier to test your theory?


6 posted on 04/14/2010 12:45:17 PM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different)
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To: ROTB

I disagree with you praying alone won’t correct this. GOD helps those who help themselves:

“Then whosoever heareth the sound of the trumpet, and taketh not warning; if the sword come,
and take him away, his blood shall be upon his own head. He heard the sound of the trumpet, and
took not warning; his blood shall be upon him. But he that taketh warning shall deliver his soul.
But if the watchman see the sword come, and blow not the trumpet, and the people be not
warned; if the sword come, and take [any] person from among them, he is taken away in his
iniquity; but his blood will I require at the watchman’s hand.” Ezekiel 33:4

I say get prepared:

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7 posted on 04/14/2010 12:46:06 PM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: Welshman007; bamahead; Travis McGee; Joe Brower

BTTT


8 posted on 04/14/2010 12:52:21 PM PDT by EdReform (Oath Keepers - Guardians of the Republic - Honor your oath - Join us: www.oathkeepers.org)
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To: Ranger Drew

Me thinks this has been planned all along by traitors to this nation OF BOTH PARTIES!!

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I totally agree. I dis-agree that armed revolt is the way to fix it.

Christian revival is. That brings healing to people, and puts the fear of God into them ... something lacking in our government, no matter who we elect.

They lie to get elected, and think all is ok. NOT!


9 posted on 04/14/2010 1:00:59 PM PDT by ROTB (Armed revolt, INVITES a foreign power to attack during the chaos. Fix the church to fix the USA.)
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To: ROTB

Good. Now, how do we fix the church and can it be done before they attempt to send us to re-education camps? Just wondering...


10 posted on 04/14/2010 1:03:50 PM PDT by achilles2000 (Shouting "fire" in a burning building is doing everyone a favor...whether they like it or not)
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To: Kartographer

I disagree with you praying alone won’t correct this. GOD helps those who help themselves.

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God helps those who repent, forgive, love, ... and have faith in him.

That Ezekiel 33:4 should tell you of the trumpet of nations raised against the USA for sin in the worthless church.

Just as God raised enemies for backslidden believers in Israel when they were disobedient, so God is raising enemies for us who name the name of Christ.

Indeed, the Chinese are building civilian bomb shelters, and missile defense. Al Qaida is angling to explode a bomb. Iran, North Korea, etc ...

Note the tagline. Your guns won’t help you.


11 posted on 04/14/2010 1:05:19 PM PDT by ROTB (Armed revolt, INVITES a foreign power to attack during the chaos. Fix the church to fix the USA.)
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To: Welshman007

But will the French send their fleet again?


12 posted on 04/14/2010 1:06:03 PM PDT by bunkerhill7
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To: achilles2000

Which church?


13 posted on 04/14/2010 1:06:41 PM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different)
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To: achilles2000

If you’re serious, FReepmail me, and we’ll talk.

Hint: The Bible is the guide.


14 posted on 04/14/2010 1:06:45 PM PDT by ROTB (Armed revolt, INVITES a foreign power to attack during the chaos. Fix the church to fix the USA.)
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To: ROTB

Your lack of sword will surely not help:

He said to them, “But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don’t have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one. Luke 22:36


15 posted on 04/14/2010 1:10:19 PM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

Your lack of sword will surely not help:

He said to them, “But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don’t have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one. Luke 22:36

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Personal self-defense against getting killed by randoms is probably the context given Romans 13 and 1 Peter 2:13.

Romans 13 says, “Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. 2Consequently, he who rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves.”

http://bible.cc/1_peter/2-13.htm

The hyper sinful dis-obedient Jews were told by God to submit to Babylon, and live, or resist and die.

“Do not listen to them; serve the king of Babylon, and live! Why should this city become a ruin?”
http://bible.cc/jeremiah/27-17.htm

Don’t resist. Repent and believe.

Otherwise, Russia and China will see it as too monstrous opportunity NOT to attack. We will be toast.


16 posted on 04/14/2010 1:18:06 PM PDT by ROTB (Armed revolt, INVITES a foreign power to attack during the chaos. Fix the church to fix the USA.)
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To: Kartographer; ROTB
I am in agreement with you on this matter. I'll take it even further that God will not save that upon which so many have turned their backs.

It's up to us to do the heavy lifting necessary to restore the intent of the Founders.

It's up to us to prove that we're worthy of the legacy of freedom that so many of us have squandered.

If we wish to claim the rights of men, then we must earn them.

In regard to the foregoing, how many of us are capable of the sacrifices made by the signers of the Declaration of Independence?

We do well to remember that only 3% of the population was engaged at any one time in that 'animated contest'. We should be able to do better than that today. The tipping point, that third strike of the match is upon us.

17 posted on 04/14/2010 1:25:42 PM PDT by Noumenon ("Upon what meat doth this our Caesar feed, that he has grown so great?" - Julius Caesar)
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To: stuartcr

The Ecclesia...


18 posted on 04/14/2010 1:33:42 PM PDT by achilles2000 (Shouting "fire" in a burning building is doing everyone a favor...whether they like it or not)
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To: achilles2000

I don’t know what that is. Is it Roman catholic?


19 posted on 04/14/2010 1:36:45 PM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different)
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To: ROTB

I am partly serious - the problem stems from apostasy in the church and the long term solution requires reformation within the church. But, I don’t see that happenning within a time frame relevant to dealing with the plans of the Obamunists. Consequently, I think that the “bitter clingers” have a point.


20 posted on 04/14/2010 1:36:47 PM PDT by achilles2000 (Shouting "fire" in a burning building is doing everyone a favor...whether they like it or not)
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To: ROTB

“is probably” , but you are not sure. So do you own a weapon according to this scripture to protect you and yours against random acts of violence?

If anyone does not provide for his relatives, and
especially for his immediate family, he has
denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.
1 Timothy 5:8

Jews were told by God to submit to Babylon, and live, or resist and die. But God also helped the Jews defeat many of their enemies and battle.

We saw how well not resisting evil Godless authority did the Jews against the Nazis.

Better a death as those of Masadah than those of Dachau.

Blessed be the LORD my strength which teacheth my hands to war, and my fingers to fight: Psalm 144:1


21 posted on 04/14/2010 1:37:25 PM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: stuartcr

It is the entire Body of Christ... Everyone who is saved, without regard to sect. BTW, “church” is the english translation of that word from the Greek. Unfortunately, it has come to be thought of in English as referring to a building or a building based group. In Greek the reference was to what I described above.


22 posted on 04/14/2010 1:39:15 PM PDT by achilles2000 (Shouting "fire" in a burning building is doing everyone a favor...whether they like it or not)
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To: Noumenon; ROTB

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9b3Q89FZoY0

See my tagline


23 posted on 04/14/2010 1:39:16 PM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

Or to keep it simple: David still needed to use his sling.


24 posted on 04/14/2010 1:41:40 PM PDT by Stat-boy
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To: achilles2000

Does it include Jews?


25 posted on 04/14/2010 1:45:32 PM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different)
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To: Kartographer

What is the manual?


26 posted on 04/14/2010 1:56:47 PM PDT by Eagles6 ( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck.)
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To: Eagles6

Preparedness Manual I complied based on the LDS one.


27 posted on 04/14/2010 2:00:03 PM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: Noumenon

It’s up to us to prove that we’re worthy of the legacy of freedom that so many of us have squandered.

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You are not listening. The Russians and Chinese will use the chaos of your rebellion to attack. There is no victory here, only defeat.


28 posted on 04/14/2010 2:17:37 PM PDT by ROTB (Armed revolt, INVITES a foreign power to attack during the chaos. Fix the church to fix the USA.)
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To: Kartographer

It does not matter if I own a weapon or not. Despite your attempt to deflect and ignore Romans 13 and 1 Peter 2:13 by focusing on my doubt about what the swords of Luke 22:36 are about, 1 Timothy 5:8 has much more to do with food and clothing than defense, given the context of the chapter.

>Jews were told by God to submit to Babylon, and live, or
>resist and die. But God also helped the Jews defeat many of
>their enemies and battle.

Right. God helped the Jews in battle when they were righteous, and fought against them when they were sinful, like us here in the USA.

>We saw how well not resisting evil Godless authority did
>the Jews against the Nazis.

You just denied Romans 13 and 1 Peter 2:13. That Nazi government was ordained by God to match the ungodly German people. We have the government we deserve with our lack of faith, repentance, fasting, ... and also given our great sinfulness. Obama and his minions were voted in by this “Christian” nation, because the pastors in the pulpits are overwhelmingly lukewarm.

It’s the story of much of the whole Old Testament. Jews turn backs on God, God threatens them with powerful enemies.

Just like us with China, Russia, Al Qaeda, the Democrats, North Korea, and Iran.


29 posted on 04/14/2010 2:28:37 PM PDT by ROTB (Armed revolt, INVITES a foreign power to attack during the chaos. Fix the church to fix the USA.)
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To: achilles2000

Get some books on past revivals, and study them. Study your Bible.

See the tagline. We are screwed without Christian revival whether from our government, or from attack from the outside.

Armed revolt, INVITES a foreign power to attack during the chaos. Fix the church to fix the USA.


30 posted on 04/14/2010 2:34:00 PM PDT by ROTB (Without a Christian revival, we are government slaves, or attacked from outside during armed revolt.)
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31 posted on 04/14/2010 2:39:42 PM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: EdReform

Thanks :)


32 posted on 04/14/2010 2:40:13 PM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: ROTB

You have admitted defeat before the battle has even begun. Good luck to you and yours. You’re going to need it.


33 posted on 04/14/2010 2:40:27 PM PDT by Noumenon ("Upon what meat doth this our Caesar feed, that he has grown so great?" - Julius Caesar)
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To: ROTB

You denied every scripture I quoted. You are failing to met your obligations to protect you and yours against random acts of violence. You fail to to take steps as instructed. And you want to lecture me?

I say to you :

“Why do you see the speck in your brother’s eye but fail to notice the beam in your own eye?” Matthew 7:3


34 posted on 04/14/2010 2:46:39 PM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

You denied every scripture I quoted. You are failing to met your obligations to protect you and yours against random acts of violence. You fail to to take steps as instructed. And you want to lecture me?

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Random? When God is against your land on the part of the lukewarm church, and raises up evil government well deserved by the church, you’re welcome to deflect and ignore by calling violence by the government “random”, and thus doing so falsely exonerate yourself and the church, and falsely give yourself license to take up arms.

Please don’t lie to yourself and this forum by calling the righteous judgment of the USA, “random”.

Your words echo those of , “Then the officials said to the king, “Let this man be put to death, for he is weakening the hands of the soldiers who are left in this city, and the hands of all the people, by speaking such words to them. For this man is not seeking the welfare of this people, but their harm.”


35 posted on 04/14/2010 3:13:11 PM PDT by ROTB (Without a Christian revival, we are government slaves, or attacked from outside during armed revolt.)
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To: Noumenon

You have admitted defeat before the battle has even begun. Good luck to you and yours. You’re going to need it.

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You have admitted you want to die rather than repent and believe and seek and trust the Lord, by refusing repentance and faith in God, the lack of which by the lukewarm sinful church is what’s bringing judgment to this land.

The theme of the Old Testament is, God raising up powerful enemies to punish his people who should know better.

We know better.


36 posted on 04/14/2010 3:15:33 PM PDT by ROTB (Without a Christian revival, we are government slaves, or attacked from outside during armed revolt.)
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To: Kartographer

Jeremiah 38:4 is the scripture. STupid Bible Refalizer plugin.


37 posted on 04/14/2010 3:17:17 PM PDT by ROTB (Without a Christian revival, we are government slaves, or attacked from outside during armed revolt.)
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To: ROTB

Glad you’re not in my neighborhood.


38 posted on 04/14/2010 3:18:02 PM PDT by Noumenon ("Upon what meat doth this our Caesar feed, that he has grown so great?" - Julius Caesar)
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To: ROTB

In you world the shepherd stays home and prays that GOD will stop the wolves from killing his sheep. In mine the shepherd prays to GOD to give him the strength and the crourage to take-up the staff and go out an protect them. /p>


39 posted on 04/14/2010 3:31:13 PM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: Noumenon

>Glad you’re not in my neighborhood.

I will pray for yours.

Your gun is as useless as the swords and spears of ancient Israel versus the enemies God raised up because of sin in the church.

Israel got conquered, and so will we without a Christian revival.


40 posted on 04/14/2010 3:45:27 PM PDT by ROTB (Without a Christian revival, we are government slaves, or attacked from outside during armed revolt.)
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To: bunkerhill7

The French government that sent the fleet lost their heads a few years later.


41 posted on 04/14/2010 3:46:03 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Kartographer

In you world the shepherd stays home and prays that GOD will stop the wolves from killing his sheep. In mine the shepherd prays to GOD to give him the strength and the crourage to take-up the staff and go out an protect them.

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In your world, this is a Christian Nation, but God lets sin and lukewarmness in the church go unpunished. Good luck fighting against God.

Again, read the Old Testament. It is all about sin among believers COMPELLING God to raise up enemies, like ours.

“If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.”
2 Chronicles 7:14

Think this does not apply?


42 posted on 04/14/2010 3:48:41 PM PDT by ROTB (Without a Christian revival, we are government slaves, or attacked from outside during armed revolt.)
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To: ROTB
The Russians and Chinese will use the chaos of your rebellion to attack.

Possibly.

But the Obamians will use lack of a rebellion as a sign to attack.

43 posted on 04/14/2010 3:49:04 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: DuncanWaring

The Russians and Chinese will use the chaos of your rebellion to attack.

Possibly.

But the Obamians will use lack of a rebellion as a sign to attack.

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Right. Either way, a Christian revival is the only out.


44 posted on 04/14/2010 4:10:33 PM PDT by ROTB (Without a Christian revival, we are government slaves, or attacked from outside during armed revolt.)
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To: DuncanWaring; Kartographer

The Russians and Chinese will use the chaos of your rebellion to attack.

Possibly.

But the Obamians will use lack of a rebellion as a sign to attack.

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Put another way, whether ...

1) The Democrats/RINOs try to kill us
2) The Russians/Chinese attack during the chaos of an armed revolt

... we are toast without a Christian revival. A Christian revival is an “all purpose” tool. Works all the time, works every time.


45 posted on 04/14/2010 4:15:32 PM PDT by ROTB (Without a Christian revival, we are government slaves, or attacked from outside during armed revolt.)
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To: ROTB

Barbarians cannot be “prayed” back into their holes.


46 posted on 04/14/2010 4:15:48 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: DuncanWaring

>Barbarians cannot be “prayed” back into their holes.

Read your Bible. A Christian revival with miracle healings, deliverances from demons, and words of knowledge will have metric tons of effect on the Democrats/Atheists who have turned lying into the national pastime, as well as sluts within the church. Barbarians will become Christian Citizens, instantly.

Once the armed revolt is in full swing, the Russians/Chinese/North Koreans will attack. It’s over at that point.

Christian revival is the only “reset button” we have.


47 posted on 04/14/2010 4:21:17 PM PDT by ROTB (Without a Christian revival, we are government slaves, or attacked from outside during armed revolt.)
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To: ROTB

You’re dreaming for something that never was and never shall be.


48 posted on 04/14/2010 4:35:07 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: DuncanWaring

You’re dreaming for something that never was and never shall be.

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Christian revival? It’s happened before, it must happen again to avoid destruction? Read your USA church history.


49 posted on 04/14/2010 4:36:22 PM PDT by ROTB (Without a Christian revival, we are government slaves, or attacked from outside during armed revolt.)
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To: DuncanWaring

You’re dreaming for something that never was and never shall be.

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Also, you’re dreaming if you think CNN won’t broadcast the play by play of an armed revolt, to let the Russians/Chinese/NorthKoreans know EXACTLY when to revolt.

If CNN won’t let them know, any random here could call them, or email them. Not hard.


50 posted on 04/14/2010 4:38:38 PM PDT by ROTB (Without a Christian revival, we are government slaves, or attacked from outside during armed revolt.)
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