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The guy who filmed the shots fired at the POLISH PLANE CRASH WAS ASSASSINATED
Big Wobble ^ | 4/20/10

Posted on 04/22/2010 1:03:14 AM PDT by LibWhacker

" Author of the video seen by everyone by now has been stabbed near Kijow on 4.15 and transported in critical condition to the hospital in Kijow. On 4.16 three unidentified individuals unplugged him from life support system and stabbed him 3 more times. Andrij was pronounced dead that afternoon. Russian government claims it was a coincidence. "

(Excerpt) Read more at gazbom.blogspot.com ...


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Politics
KEYWORDS: assassinated; crash; iran; israel; kgb; military; obama; plane; poland; polish; putin; russia; sovietunion
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1 posted on 04/22/2010 1:03:15 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: LibWhacker

Huh? What shots? Did I miss something?!


2 posted on 04/22/2010 1:04:22 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/backroom/2312894/posts?page=242)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

News to me too. Have to go to the blog and try to tease it out of the article. There’s a link to a Polish newspaper, but that does me no good whatsoever.


3 posted on 04/22/2010 1:06:50 AM PDT by LibWhacker (America awake!)
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To: LibWhacker

I don’t know what to think of this video. If it’s a fake, it had to have taken quite a bit of resources to pull off; not something I would think that the average intarwebz troll had at his disposal. God help us if there’s any truth to it. With the state of the world, I wouldn’t be shocked if turned out to be true. But you can’t trust your own eyes and ears in this age, so I’ll remain skeptical but open to more evidence.


4 posted on 04/22/2010 1:18:06 AM PDT by thecabal (Destroy Progressivism)
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To: LibWhacker

Do you have any other info besides this ill-written b;pg and its impossible-to-verify link to a Polish site? Sounds like a great rumor! Russia’s full of them, it seems.


5 posted on 04/22/2010 1:18:18 AM PDT by worst-case scenario (Striving to reach the light)
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To: LibWhacker

Saw the video. The news is not a surprise to me. I too have looked into Putin’s eyes and all I see is pure unadulterated evil! (BTW What was GW thinking???)


6 posted on 04/22/2010 1:20:30 AM PDT by Anti-Hillary (Pretty soon everything in this country will be "free", except it's people!)
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To: LibWhacker

It is difficult to see the people identified as being in the video but the gun shots are clear enough. This doesn’t bode well.


7 posted on 04/22/2010 1:34:44 AM PDT by TigersEye (Duncan Hunter, Jim DeMint, Michelle Bachman, ...)
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To: LibWhacker

I wouldn’t put anything past ex-KGB agent Putin and his minions. Didn’t they kill a guy with radiation poisoning not that many years ago?


8 posted on 04/22/2010 1:39:34 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/backroom/2312894/posts?page=242)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

In one of the videos from the scene it sounds like there is gunfire from the area of the debris. I have not seen the video, only read reports.

I have been a news photographer for many years. It’s not uncommon to hear what sounds like gunfire at the scene of a structure or vehicle fire. If there is a ammunition in area of the fire it will certainly get hot enough to set it off. I’ve been a scenes where a car fire set off a hundred or more rounds of ammunition. Very dangerous!

I would not surprised to learn there were several people on that plane that were armed. It looked like a pretty hot fire and any rounds in the fire could easily be set off.


9 posted on 04/22/2010 1:41:36 AM PDT by jwparkerjr
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To: jwparkerjr
I have never heard rounds cooking off in a fire. The rounds going off in the video don't sound like what I would expect from rounds cooking off. Listen for yourself and see what you think. It's less than three minutes long.

KATASTROFA SAMOLOTU SMOLENSK PIERWSZE NAGRANIE NAPISY

10 posted on 04/22/2010 1:49:35 AM PDT by TigersEye (Duncan Hunter, Jim DeMint, Michelle Bachman, ...)
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To: jwparkerjr

Mighty strange, though, that the ammunition went off right after someone yelled, “Shoot!” And then “Shoot again!”


11 posted on 04/22/2010 1:51:51 AM PDT by firebrand
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To: LibWhacker

What the....

I wasn’t so sure about the shots at the crash, but having this guy assassinated...sticks big time now.


12 posted on 04/22/2010 1:54:54 AM PDT by Domandred (Fdisk, format, and reinstall the entire .gov system.)
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To: LibWhacker

Has this story been covered by any US news agency?


13 posted on 04/22/2010 2:03:42 AM PDT by preacher (A government which robs from Peter to pay Paul will always have the support of Paul.)
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To: TigersEye

I’ve heard rounds going off in fire and it didn’t sound like that. I guess if there were only a couple, it could, but sure seems a little mysterious to me. The video is too blurry to see clearly what is going on.


14 posted on 04/22/2010 2:04:55 AM PDT by mojitojoe (“Our leaders seek to pit us against one another, and torment us relentlessly."Mark Levin)
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To: jwparkerjr

It was very hard to make out anything but the gunfire in my opinion. As I was viewing it I was thinking someone could say almost anything was happening.


15 posted on 04/22/2010 2:09:41 AM PDT by Dem Guard
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To: LibWhacker

as posted on site: This is what happens when you agree to base US missile interceptors in your country facing Russia and then fly to Russia to further embarrass the Russians by bringing attention to a WW2 massacre of Polish officers committed by the Russians.....what were they thinking??

You do hear shots then laughter. This is scary and could be of major impact.


16 posted on 04/22/2010 2:11:51 AM PDT by Java4Jay
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To: LibWhacker

No Problem comrade! In Russia we have many coincidences!

Mel


17 posted on 04/22/2010 2:16:52 AM PDT by melsec
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To: LibWhacker

There was a post a day or two ago on FR where a polish pilot described that this pilot had only 350 hours of experience and the navigator was straight out of school. This person also described in detail the mistakes the pilot made in approaching this landing. As to the shots, since there were no survivors, I would think it was between police and looters, or looters between themselves.


18 posted on 04/22/2010 2:16:57 AM PDT by Dem Guard
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To: Dem Guard
Here is the link to the other post I mentioned:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2497468/posts

19 posted on 04/22/2010 2:21:18 AM PDT by Dem Guard
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To: LibWhacker
The so-called "news" is nothing more than someone's comment on a news organization comment board, to the story "Two black boxes have already decrypted".
20 posted on 04/22/2010 2:34:26 AM PDT by BigSkyFreeper ("Ked Tennedy would have been plowed... I mean, proud today..." - Senator Max Baucus (Drunk-MT))
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To: LibWhacker

If they were killing people at the scene, this videographer would have been one of them.....he is totally in the open and moving around freely, not using cover.


21 posted on 04/22/2010 2:59:21 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
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To: worst-case scenario

No, sorry.


22 posted on 04/22/2010 3:25:24 AM PDT by LibWhacker (America awake!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Exactly. I just don’t believe in coincidences of this magnitude, given the nature and history of the suspects. Putin ordered that plane brought down, and anyone who has any sort of evidence for it is in deep doo-doo.


23 posted on 04/22/2010 3:39:53 AM PDT by LibWhacker (America awake!)
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To: Erik Latranyi
That video reminds me of the Blair Witch Project . . .
24 posted on 04/22/2010 3:54:18 AM PDT by blues_guitarist (ISLAM=DEATH!! . . . . . . black & humble . . .)
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To: LibWhacker

Hmmm.

Interesting.


25 posted on 04/22/2010 4:05:04 AM PDT by CriticalJ (Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress.. But then I repeat myself. MT)
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To: preacher

I haven’t seen it.


26 posted on 04/22/2010 4:05:17 AM PDT by LibWhacker (America awake!)
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To: melsec

“No Problem comrade! In Russia we have many coincidences!”

No doubt. If you like detective stories, read “Child 44”.

It talks about a string of coincidences in the USSR.


27 posted on 04/22/2010 4:06:44 AM PDT by CriticalJ (Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress.. But then I repeat myself. MT)
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To: thecabal

One thing I do know. Russia cannot be trusted which is why there is so much suspicion with regard to the plane crash.


28 posted on 04/22/2010 4:06:52 AM PDT by Carley (I'll keep clinging to the constitution, my guns and my religion, thank you.)
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To: LibWhacker

OH MY GOD!!!


29 posted on 04/22/2010 4:22:52 AM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the chariot wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: All

There was a video posted (it was removed everytime it was posted by an unknown person) that had shots fired immediately after the plane crash before medical personel had reached the site.

This is just terrible and confirms to me that this was an assassination by Russia.


30 posted on 04/22/2010 4:24:04 AM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the chariot wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: mojitojoe

if the rounds that cooked off were chambered at the time, its possible.


31 posted on 04/22/2010 4:33:50 AM PDT by absolootezer0 (2x divorced, tattooed, pierced, harley hatin, meghan mccain luvin', smoker and pit bull owner..what?)
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To: CriticalJ

Thanks for the reading suggestion!

Cheers

Mel


32 posted on 04/22/2010 4:43:45 AM PDT by melsec
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To: Erik Latranyi

Well, seems they did kill him.


33 posted on 04/22/2010 5:12:32 AM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the chariot wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: LibWhacker

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxIFh3NkEvM


34 posted on 04/22/2010 5:14:36 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: All; LucyT; null and void

I seriously suggest everyone watch the video here in post #10. This is bonechilling and now this guy shooting the video is dead??

This does concern us because it means Russia is covertly attempting to force the Soviet Union back together.


35 posted on 04/22/2010 5:15:24 AM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the chariot wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: Dem Guard

i think that was debunked a Russian propaganda.


36 posted on 04/22/2010 5:15:42 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: BigSkyFreeper

This is hard to follow as to which comment relates to which other comment.

Are you saying the stabbing “report” is not a news report but an unconfirmed blog posting?


37 posted on 04/22/2010 5:19:32 AM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Johnny Rico picked the wrong girl!)
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To: autumnraine

I have no doubt that this was done with the blessing of “our” marxist leaders.

These are the things that “our” government now does or sanctions in our name, you only need to look as far as Honduras and Israel for proof of that.

Face it, our nation has become one of the bad guys. What are we going to do about it? If we allow it to continue we become complicit in it.


38 posted on 04/22/2010 5:20:42 AM PDT by myself6
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To: LibWhacker
One other thing about this story that is bothering me is that all the tinfoil blogs are not going absolutely crazy over it. There are a few blogs but the big mainstream ones aren't even talking about it. Just weird. This story has all the ingredients to make tin foil sell out at every store.
39 posted on 04/22/2010 5:21:20 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: mad_as_he$$; onyx; STARWISE; Liz; hoosiermama; penelopesire; SE Mom; Bahbah; ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxIFh3NkEvM

PING!


40 posted on 04/22/2010 5:25:08 AM PDT by maggief (Not everything is what it seems.)
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To: mad_as_he$$

It also looks like it was filmed quite a while after the crash when the sun was coming up. This plane crashed in heavy fog, and the burning I can see appeared to be minimal. So what are we to believe, passengers were leaving the plane long after the crash and they were being shot???


41 posted on 04/22/2010 5:25:17 AM PDT by Dem Guard
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To: LibWhacker

The only surprising thing here is I would have thought Putty would have order a hit on the ATC guys first.


42 posted on 04/22/2010 5:27:46 AM PDT by Rappini ("Pro deo et Patria.)
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To: Dem Guard
Don't know what to believe. Clearly there a people moving around and at least one is down. In the Us that long after a crash there would be a 100 rescue personnel around. BTW i hate cellphone video!!!
43 posted on 04/22/2010 5:28:37 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: mad_as_he$$
Yeah, I cann’t really see sh*t in that video. It could be dogs, cats, chipmunks, squirrels, or werewolves for all I can tell. ;-)
44 posted on 04/22/2010 5:43:47 AM PDT by Dem Guard
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To: Erik Latranyi
If they were killing people at the scene, this videographer would have been one of them.....he is totally in the open and moving around freely, not using cover.

Aye. The old soviet military had a policy of shooting every reporter they saw near a battlefield.

OTOH, they aren't known for their initiative, if the orders were to make sure there were no survivors of the crash they probably wouldn't make the leap to eliminating witnesses and videos.

45 posted on 04/22/2010 8:22:23 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 454 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: autumnraine

Done. Thanks.


46 posted on 04/22/2010 8:23:36 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 454 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: autumnraine; nw_arizona_granny; Velveeta; Godzilla; milford421; Fred Nerks; null and void; ...
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I seriously suggest everyone watch the video here in post #10. This is bonechilling and now this guy shooting the video is dead??

This does concern us because it means Russia is covertly attempting to force the Soviet Union back together.

47 posted on 04/22/2010 1:19:29 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: LucyT

All for nuking the hell out of putin raise their hand


48 posted on 04/22/2010 1:23:37 PM PDT by Scythian
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To: melsec
In America you have coincidences. In Russia, COINCIDENCES HAVE YOU!

IS TIME TO LAUGH NOW!

49 posted on 04/22/2010 1:26:20 PM PDT by Lazamataz ("We beat the Soviet Union. Then we became them." -- Lazamataz, 2005)
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To: LucyT

Thanks Lucy. I know it’s not a COLB ping, but it’s a Holy Hell what is going here ping. If the US is going to have to go up against a new Soviet Union, Obama is the LAST guy we want in office.


50 posted on 04/22/2010 1:33:35 PM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the chariot wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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