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LEAKED RECORDING AT US/CANADA BORDER CROSSING (Welcome to Amerika Police State)
YouTube.com ^ | May 17, 2010 | unknown

Posted on 05/19/2010 5:52:40 PM PDT by Beloved Levinite

thatstheguy07 — May 17, 2010 — Since this video has been getting so many views, and ppl have been asking the same questions, I figured Id explaion a ciuple things here. This video was sent to me by someone on facebook. I dont know who the guy is, what the aftermath was, or which crossing this was at.

(Excerpt) Read more at youtube.com ...


TOPICS: Government; Society
KEYWORDS: border; borderpatrol; canada; corruption; demagoguery; hitler; immigration; jackboots; justice; law; lawenforcement; leo; police; policestate; recording; tourism; travel; us; youtube
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This is how corrupt government officials turn ordinary, harmless citizens into "hardened" criminals. Truly beyond words. Sad to say, a traveler might actually be treated more fairly in Russia now. (for video click on red YouTube link top page)
1 posted on 05/19/2010 5:52:40 PM PDT by Beloved Levinite
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To: Beloved Levinite

This has been brewing for years, and inherent in the field of Law enforcement. Sadly, instead of being checked, by an aware and Patriotic public, we’ve allowed the guard dogs to morph into the wolves feeding off the flock. This has got to STOP, and NOW.


2 posted on 05/19/2010 5:57:25 PM PDT by JDW11235 (I think I got it now!)
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To: Beloved Levinite

The guy sounds appalled that he and his wife weren’t racially profiled and let through without a hassle. I am too. I could tell by his voice alone that he was a white guy from Canada. Meaning....um....[checking my handy dandy pocket threat matrix]...white guy, wife, Canada....nope....not a threat.

(Hint: Pull over the Muslims from the middle east and Asia for further questions.)


3 posted on 05/19/2010 6:01:19 PM PDT by PaleoBob
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To: Beloved Levinite
"I figured Id explaion a ciuple things here"?
4 posted on 05/19/2010 6:05:08 PM PDT by GSP.FAN (Some days, it's not even worth chewing through the restraints.)
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To: GSP.FAN

Tell that to the YouTube guy who posted the vid & summary.


5 posted on 05/19/2010 6:07:29 PM PDT by Beloved Levinite (I have a new name for the occupier of The Oval Office: KING FRAUD! (pronounced King "Faa-raud"))
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To: PaleoBob

Yep, and he said where they were going, the idiot “agent” got into a hissy fit because he wasn’t given a specific store name, which is not reasonable to ask given the previous dialogue. This wasn’t about danger, it was about an ego, and the “officer” being offended so he made this guy go through.

I’ve been in and out of customs about a dozen or so times in a few countries, and I have had only one or two U.S> agents treat me the way this guy/idiot/agent was. I was overly courteous not because that’s an appropriate exchange, but because it’s easier to be patient with them like the juveniles they are (not all agents, but these types). However, overtime we’ve abdicated more and more personal rights (these foreigners don’t have many here), but in general, so that these thugs think they’re all powerful. Sick and disgraceful.

There was no danger, except to the “officer”’s thin skin.


6 posted on 05/19/2010 6:08:07 PM PDT by JDW11235 (I think I got it now!)
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To: Beloved Levinite

Sorry, but the BCE folks are in the right here, even if the first guy was a little too abrupt and curt.

This Canadian was deliberately trying to start a fight and make an issue. He got what he deserved. When you enter the USA, you play by our rules and you answer the questions without the attitude and the smart-ass responses. If you think these guys were nasty to him, you should try that with the Canadians when entering their country.

These guys are trying to protect our country. If you think their job is to be a Welcome Wagon for Canadian a$$holes, spend a day with them at the border and see what crap they have to put up with.

The good news here is that this guy and his wife are now on the list and will be denied entry into the United States from now on. Good riddance to them. Maybe their story will straighten out other Canadians coming here with a chip on their shoulders.


7 posted on 05/19/2010 6:12:30 PM PDT by oldbill
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To: Beloved Levinite

Dang.
I think at that point I’d demand to either be arrested-&-charged or let go; I’ll be honest, the ‘detained’ status where you’re in legal limbo scares the hell outta me.


8 posted on 05/19/2010 6:14:11 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: JDW11235

I did just want to add that the guy being interviewed would have been better served to just answer the questions, and move on. Instead of arguing. He would have probaby been in and out rather than dealing further with the first idiot in the first place. And I’d say, in any event, shop in your own country and you wouldn’t have a problem.

And the “Obstruction of Justice” charge is so over abused, it’s stupid.


9 posted on 05/19/2010 6:15:03 PM PDT by JDW11235 (I think I got it now!)
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To: Beloved Levinite

I hope this audio gets wide play.

Servants or masters?


10 posted on 05/19/2010 6:15:30 PM PDT by glasseye
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To: oldbill

IMHO, your a nut.


11 posted on 05/19/2010 6:17:53 PM PDT by glasseye
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To: JDW11235

Yeah, and what about the “pulling away is assault” charge after his wife pulled away when they grabbed her? This is such BS and must be stopped.


12 posted on 05/19/2010 6:18:01 PM PDT by Beloved Levinite (I have a new name for the occupier of The Oval Office: KING FRAUD! (pronounced King "Faa-raud"))
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To: OneWingedShark

“I think at that point I’d demand to either be arrested-&-charged or let go; I’ll be honest, the ‘detained’ status where you’re in legal limbo scares the hell outta me.”

Bingo. People wrongly think this starts and ends here. It’s not just going to be foreign “terrorists,” when they stop coming to our country, and probably even before, the Admin will ‘sic ‘em on us...

Read Gio Bruno’s article:
“One Day Soon, We’ll All Be “Homegrown Terrorists””

http://neithercorp.us/npress/?p=276


13 posted on 05/19/2010 6:19:05 PM PDT by JDW11235 (I think I got it now!)
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To: Beloved Levinite

I’ve been through Customs in a lot of countries throughout Europe and back to the US. The US and UK customs people were by far the worst.


14 posted on 05/19/2010 6:21:13 PM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (Are they insane, stupid or just evil?)
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To: oldbill
The good news here is that this guy and his wife are now on the list and will be denied entry into the United States from now on. Good riddance to them. Maybe their story will straighten out other Canadians coming here with a chip on their shoulders.

Since when did we start imposing civil/criminal punishments without a trial? I'm pretty sure the Sixth amendment has something to say about that.
Since when did we start inflicting de facto exile/banishment for getting into an argument with the police? I'm pretty sure the Eighth amendment has something to say about that.

I certainly didn't spend 9 years in the Army to allow the police/border-patrol to ignore the Constitution I swore to defend.

15 posted on 05/19/2010 6:21:32 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: glasseye; oldbill

While I agree with oldbill on “if you’re going to come to America, you have to abide by our rules” mentality, the problem is that people aren’t abiding rules. And pulling one’s arm away is not “Assault” on an officer, which should not carry any greater charge than assault period. It would in fact be resisting arrest, unless they weren’t actually arresting him.

The problem is there is a buffet of charges available for infliction upon anyone these days because of a lax mentality among the people.public. We are to keep these people in line, primarily through appropriate elections and civil (public, not courteous) interaction, not the other way around. Officers have both too much discretion and too much power. Either we are a nation of laws, or we are a nation of despots, great and small. Sadly, we’ve almost completed our transition to the latter.


16 posted on 05/19/2010 6:23:54 PM PDT by JDW11235 (I think I got it now!)
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To: Beloved Levinite
Seems to me this guy was offered plenty of chances to calm down and kept mouthing off. Getting sent to secondary is not uncommon. It's happened to me coming and going.

I had one Canadian Customs Officer ask me if I was trying to move to Canada because I had too much stuff in my car. It doesn't have to be a big deal.

17 posted on 05/19/2010 6:24:24 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: Beloved Levinite

I addressed that too in my post, while you were writing yours. Pulling away is definitely NOT assault. I wish things were back to “normal,” but that’s been at least 150 years ago.

I have hope this will change, but I fear the way it may have to.


18 posted on 05/19/2010 6:26:05 PM PDT by JDW11235 (I think I got it now!)
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To: JDW11235

Sure, I’ll read that article.
Would you read mine?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2513906/posts


19 posted on 05/19/2010 6:27:31 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: USNBandit

You are absolutely correct. The man would have been best served by not rocking the boat. The problem is that it’ll get worse and worse. If you see the big picture, we’re required, for example, to remove our shoes, and TSA (I know this isn’t TSA) shake down old women/children (want to cavity search) regularly, but terrorists (Undie bomber), etc. get a free pass.

The problem is that the guard dogs have become wolves, and when they can’t get in their ego fixes in, they’ll come for you. This is just a micro incident of a systemic (macro) problem. Cheers...


20 posted on 05/19/2010 6:29:30 PM PDT by JDW11235 (I think I got it now!)
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To: glasseye

And you have never had to work at the border.

Asking questions which may seem stupid to you are a way to find suspects and people with ominous plans and intentions. Asking them which store they are going to is not out of the ordinary - bad guys can give some pretty stupid and incriminating answers that convey their real identity and intent. It the guy answered “the Bay Company” or “Selfridges”, you might start suspecting something. Or if he’s “visiting his aunt on Chigago’s East side” you know he’s hiding something.

When this guy was asked what store, he could have just said he couldn’t remember. Instead he came out with an attitude. He got what he deserved.

You guys are clueless as to what comes across that border every single day. It is not bishops and rabbis and Mother Teresa.


21 posted on 05/19/2010 6:31:15 PM PDT by oldbill
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To: OneWingedShark

Man oh man, I just read it. Excellent. Thanks for posting that. I’ll PM you in a bit.


22 posted on 05/19/2010 6:34:36 PM PDT by JDW11235 (I think I got it now!)
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To: oldbill

Crap!
I grant you that the scum bag little Hitlers have the upper hand, but as a Canadian - that does NOT mean you kiss ass!
F’ing scumbag American border bureaucrats!
CanGyrene
Semper Fi!


23 posted on 05/19/2010 6:36:39 PM PDT by CanGyrene (CanGyrene)
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To: Beloved Levinite

Nothing corrupt here..you answer the questions and don’t talk back. They have been hard on the border for years and it doesn’t need changed IMO.


24 posted on 05/19/2010 6:39:21 PM PDT by Irisshlass
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To: oldbill

Crap, buddy, absolute crap!


25 posted on 05/19/2010 6:42:27 PM PDT by CanGyrene (CanGyrene)
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To: oldbill

>> Sorry, but the BCE folks are in the right here... If you think their job is to be a Welcome Wagon for Canadian a$$holes

+1.

The folks that have their knickers in a bunch on this thread are confusing the SUBSTANTIAL rights of a US citizen already in this country with the rights of a FOREIGNER desiring to ENTER this country. THEIR rights are essentially ZERO, until they’re admitted.

If you’re a smartass Canadian and his wife, you do NOT have any God-given (or constitutionally guaranteed) right to go down to Niagra and shop! Get over it, Loonie.

Of course you’re a wetback sneaking into the country, your rights are over and above the rights of a US citizen these days, but that sorry state of affairs is adequately covered in other threads. :-)


26 posted on 05/19/2010 6:42:41 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Eat more spinach! Make Green Jobs for America!)
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To: OneWingedShark

You certainly didn’t spend 9 years in the Army studying immigration law.

A non-US citizen has no right to enter the United States. It is a privilege which can be granted and revoked at any time. Three of the four Beatles were retricted entry into the United States because of their personal histories (drug convictions, other stuff).

Even when in the United States, foreigners are here as guests, which privilege can be revoked at any time for any cause (unless you are Obama’s aunt).

You guys probably think that Immigration was too rough on the Millenium Bomber who was caught at Port Angeles, WA, because of his behavior.

Ride these border agents enough and you just may be the guy that gets nuked by the one they let through because they didn’t want to hear any more whining from people like on this thread.


27 posted on 05/19/2010 6:45:24 PM PDT by oldbill
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To: JDW11235

And if we just used sensible racial profiling we could save BILLIONS because the TSA thing when combined with the Customs thing is a massive expenditure to no purpose because the terrorists are the protected class at the ports of entry. It’s only white people who are being harassed. Which is to say, the racial profiling is intensely focused on the wrong race.


28 posted on 05/19/2010 6:47:01 PM PDT by PaleoBob
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To: Nervous Tick

Thank you.
A voice of reason.


29 posted on 05/19/2010 6:47:40 PM PDT by oldbill
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To: oldbill

They were under the impression that “this is America”. No, that WAS America. Now the guy at the top is a thug and he sets the tone so every little bureaucrat in a uniform thinks he can be one. Granted, the Canadian man was a bit flip but his behavior in no way warranted the little Hitler routine he got from all 3 border agents.

By the way, a friend and I got even worse treatment from Canadian border agents when we flew into a western province. Very similar bureaucrat-out-of-control stuff with absolutely no foundation. Being polite and answering questions did not help. I thought at the time, man I’m glad I’m American. Ironic, isn’t it?


30 posted on 05/19/2010 6:48:54 PM PDT by Natural Born 54
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To: OneWingedShark
Since when did we start inflicting de facto exile/banishment for getting into an argument with the police?

These people are Canadians. They don't have a right to come to the United States. It is a privilege, just like it is a privilege for us to visit Canada.

Got a funny story for you though. There is an fired RCMP officer that keeps threatening people and law enforcement in my local area. He was allowed to cross for a hearing regarding a no contact order being requested against him. When the hearing was over the judge granted the no contact order. The Canadian threatened the requester and was arrested on the spot.

31 posted on 05/19/2010 6:49:18 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: PaleoBob

I agree completely. I’ve concluded that the reason that whites are profiled is for two reasons. First and foremost, they don’t fight back. If blacks were profiled, the LSM would be all over it. Second, the political class hates whites, and is espousing racial conflict.


32 posted on 05/19/2010 6:50:56 PM PDT by JDW11235 (I think I got it now!)
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To: USNBandit; oldbill

I agree that the Canadian has no civilian rights in our country, but I really do hope and pray that you realize, that this is a bigger issue.

The second agent just wanted to let the guy go. Sure, the Canadian should have shut his mouth, but the first agent should have never tried to make the Canadian’s life worse just to exercise his power, which is exactly what the man did.

This problem is systemic, if you don’t know that, I pray you wake up before it further reaches you or someone you love. Tyranny is rampant, don’t think Border Patrol is somehow off the hook. I assure you, they are a part. Most patriots would be frustrated instantly, these people aren;t their for the good of the country, they’re there for the paychecks. That’s the problem.


33 posted on 05/19/2010 6:56:00 PM PDT by JDW11235 (I think I got it now!)
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To: oldbill

>You certainly didn’t spend 9 years in the Army studying immigration law.

There was no reason for them to suspect the man... I direct your attention to the fourth amendment:
The right of the people to be *secure in their persons*, houses, papers, and effects, *against unreasonable searches* and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, *but upon probable cause*, *supported by Oath or affirmation*, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

Take a look at the portions between the astricies. Note that the people are supposed to be secure from unreasonable searches; what is reasonable about being told “we don’t need a reason”? Furthermore, there is a probable cause clause for the issuance of warrants... WHICH MUST BE SUPPORTED BY OATH/AFFIRMATION. (In other words, a lie on the part of the officer there IS perjury.)

As for your assertion that it is a privilege for foreigners to enter the US, I agree. But let me ask this:
Why should we let some bureaucratic schmuck revoke that privlige?

Driving is also a privilege; would you like it if some police officer were to take a disliking to you and be able to, then and there, revoke your license? No reason given.


34 posted on 05/19/2010 7:02:00 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Nervous Tick

>If you’re a smartass Canadian and his wife, you do NOT have any God-given (or constitutionally guaranteed) right to go down to Niagra and shop! Get over it, Loonie.

Oh, does this mean that smart-ass Americans can’t write political pieces?

Guess I’d best find out how to un-post this:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2513906/posts


35 posted on 05/19/2010 7:06:20 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Jabba the Nutt

I’ve been through Customs in a lot of countries throughout Europe and back to the US. The US and UK customs people were by far the worst.

i had been to the uk many times . the customs people there were not as bad as some of our people that i observed on the return but i was never mistreated. but that was a long time ago.


36 posted on 05/19/2010 7:07:08 PM PDT by 1st Division guy
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To: OneWingedShark; Nervous Tick

I just read the Youtube Description, and it is correct. These agents WANTED to arrest them. They could have just turned them back to Canada.


37 posted on 05/19/2010 7:08:46 PM PDT by JDW11235 (I think I got it now!)
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To: OneWingedShark
There was no reason for them to suspect the man... I direct your attention to the fourth amendment:

When you present yourself at a border there is no 4th amendment protection. Customs officers are allowed to go through all of you belongings with no level of suspicion.

I know you will flame me for bringing this up, but I am trying to protect you. You need to know this in case you ever try to cross a border. Everything on your person, in your car, on your phone, computer, iPod....everything is subject to search. When they take a cursory look at your passport and wave you through they are choosing not to exercise that authority.

38 posted on 05/19/2010 7:10:00 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: Beloved Levinite
The primary officer was a jerk. So was the traveller. A bad attitude will get you no where in these situations.

When the secondary interview took place, his attitude got worse. I blame the traveller not the officers. If you want to travel into the US, answer the questions. I call it the "yes sir, no sir, three bags fulls sir" routine. Real easy.

39 posted on 05/19/2010 7:10:35 PM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (How do I change my screen name now that we have the most conservative government in the world?)
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To: oldbill

Serious question here. Is there a large sign at the border that informs people that once they are on the premises of the inspection station, they have no rights and must do everything the border agent tells them to do and answer every question whether they know the answer or not?

That Canadian man obviously did not know any of that. Had he been informed of the true circumstances, he probably would have been yes sir’ing at every opportunity or maybe he just would have stayed in Canada. People need to know that they have no rights in that place and they are at the total mercy of another human being - who may be on a power trip - before they enter the area.

I’ll bet every terrorist would know that in advance and never act like this Canadian man did. So do you think they suspected the man was a terrorist or drug runner? No way. So why did they treat him like that and arrest him? I think they enjoyed making him squirm and making his wife cry even though they knew they were innocent and that is not their job. I hope. They acted more like terrorists than the Canadian man did.


40 posted on 05/19/2010 7:20:15 PM PDT by Natural Born 54
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To: Beloved Levinite

I’m not convinced this is real and not staged.


41 posted on 05/19/2010 7:25:55 PM PDT by kanawa
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To: glasseye
"IMHO, your a nut."

Agreed, and I second the motion.

42 posted on 05/19/2010 7:30:13 PM PDT by Beloved Levinite (I have a new name for the occupier of The Oval Office: KING FRAUD! (pronounced King "Faa-raud"))
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To: USNBandit

>I know you will flame me for bringing this up, but I am trying to protect you.

Flame, I should hope not; argue [in the philosophy-sense], sure.

>You need to know this in case you ever try to cross a border. Everything on your person, in your car, on your phone, computer, iPod....everything is subject to search. When they take a cursory look at your passport and wave you through they are choosing not to exercise that authority.

I’m not saying that they had no authority to search him; I *AM* saying that they should be able to give a reason for any [real] detainment or in-depth search that they perform; furthermore, they should be held to account for their barratry. ( Def #2 - http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/barratry )

At 0:27 when he asks “Does it matter?” was he being disrespectful, at all? {Would you react the same way if you were asked by a police officer where you were going, and you said ‘to get dinner’ and he asked where, and you said ‘KFC, Pizza Hut, I don’t know... does it matter?’ Also, would you expect the police officer to react in a similar fashion?}
At 2:00 is the request to know why unreasonable?


43 posted on 05/19/2010 7:36:01 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Natural Born 54

In Post 38 USN Bandit sums it up very well.

A foreigner wishing to enter the United States assents to all the rules and laws of this country. There is no requiremnet to “post signs”.

US law enforcement have full authority to searches and seizures for anyone entering the country as a condition to their entry. If you don’t want to comply, turn around.

Millions of people cross the border from Canada every year. In those millions are more than a handful of bad guys - really bad guys. BCE agents are tasked to cathch them before they do harm. And the bad guys don’t look like Muslims with AK-47s over their shoulder and dynamite sticks in their backpacks. They can come in fancy suits and Lexus, or soccer moms in SUVs.

That Canadian with an attitude has just made it harder for other Canadians with no attitude to come to the United States.


44 posted on 05/19/2010 7:38:04 PM PDT by oldbill
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To: oldbill

I’ve crossed that very border about 10 times a year since I was a baby. I’ve crossed there (and at the Peace Bridge) in cars, on bicycles and on foot. Whats been hammered into me as long as I can remember is...DON’T BE AN A..HOLE WITH THE BORDER PEOPLE!!!
This isn’t a new rule. I don’t think that jerk would have been treated much different in 1965. If I acted that way towards a CDN officer, I’d expect the same.
They also prod and provoke just to get a sense of who you are, sample questions I’ve really been asked:
“are you bringing any business machines with you?”
“ do you have any weapons,hand grenades etc with you?”
“ how much vodka is in that orange juice?
This guy failed the Ahole test and this is what has always happened on the bridges when you do.


45 posted on 05/19/2010 7:41:15 PM PDT by singletrack (..................................................................)
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To: oldbill

Soccer Moms? Really? Send me a picture of a person who looked like a US soccer mom that hijacked an airplane or murdered school children.


46 posted on 05/19/2010 7:44:29 PM PDT by MSF BU (++)
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The Canadian was definitely challenging the first border agent in his replies to the border agent. When asked which specific store in the mall he was going to, he should have answered, "We plan to go to the mall to walk around in the mall and then decide which stores to go into to shop." "We haven't decided on specific stores in the mall we want to go to yet."

That might have been all the questions other than, "For how long do you plan to stay in the United States ?", and "When you leave the United States, do you plan to leave at this entry point ?" and "Do you plan to exit the US to go back to Canada ?".

The Canadian was also confrontational to the person doing the interview. The Canadian told his wife who came over to interrupt the agent interviewing the Canadian male at least six or seven times to, "Sit down." while inside the office. The Canadian further exacerbated the interview by repeating his confrontational and challenging questions to the border agent including, "What are you going to do, shoot me ?" several times. That in of itself is a threat. I believe the Canadian was goading the border officers to escalate the interview to the next level. The interviews went through several levels, from outside through the car window to inside the office with several border agents to the next level of an arrest.

In my opinion, both of the Canadians were wrong. The Canadian wife's hysterical screeching most definitely did not help the situation.

Entering the US is a privilege and not a right. The US has borders on both the North and the South that define the US. Abide by the laws and you may be given the privilege to enter the US.


47 posted on 05/19/2010 7:51:11 PM PDT by pyx (Rule#1.The LEFT lies.Rule#2.See Rule#1. IF THE LEFT CONTROLS THE LANGUAGE, IT CONTROLS THE ARGUMENT.)
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To: OneWingedShark
They don't have to tell you why you are referred to secondary. They don't have to tell you what their computer system says about you. Sometimes it is just random. They can decide to secondary every single person.

Regarding a police officer asking you where you are going, it depends on how that encounter starts. If he walks up to you on the street you don't have to talk to him. If he tells you to stop, then you are being detained and he has to have a reasonable suspicion that a crime has been committed (you match a vague description of a bank robber.) If he pulls you over for speeding and asks then it is probably in your best interests to give him some info, but you don't have to. Of course when talking to a police officer your 4th amendment and expectations of privacy are in affect.

48 posted on 05/19/2010 7:53:01 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: Beloved Levinite
It might be a good idea for an individual with a personality like his to take a tranquilizer before crossing the border. No, on second thought, THAT WOULD BE A REALLY BAD IDEA (if it weren't prescribed!)
49 posted on 05/19/2010 7:54:53 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: singletrack

Same here - I’ve lived on the border and worked on it.

I once crossed the border from Montana into Canada on a camping trip. Immigration Canada asked me the standard questions, including weapons. I remembered that I had a survival knife with a switchblade in my gear and told them.

Nope - not authorized and I was told I could not enter Canada. I didn’t give them any lip, even though the nearest city for a gang fight was 250 miles away. I politely turned around, went back to the concrete pylon border marker in the no-man’s land between border stations, buried the knife under a rock one inch inside the USA, turned back to Canada, politely said I didn’t have it any more and consented to a full search of the car, was cleared, and moved on into Canada for my camping trip.

They saw what I was doing from both border stations, but I didn’t give anybody any lip, and had no problems.

Four days later I came back to the USA, stopped by the rock and got the knife and came on home.

Now imagine if I had given these guys an attitude like the Canadian A-hole. I’d probably be in jail on a weapons charge.


50 posted on 05/19/2010 7:59:39 PM PDT by oldbill
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