Posted on 08/08/2010 9:05:40 AM PDT by cycle of discernment
(watch vid at link)
Rev Manning straight up:
Video in summary-- although the MSM actively seeks to cover up for Obama,--Fox News, and most every high ranking conservative all know Obama is ineligible but they are held hostage to speak it.
And some go even further, like O'Reilly to ridicule those that ask the reasonable and responsible questions any thinking human being, any decent American citizen, should ask--why this most powerful man in the world should not be held to explain the missing, hidden, opaque, inconsistent and contradictory information on his personal, professional, academic and political background. And then provide proof.
These conservstive mavens know in their heart of hearts Obama is full of lies and deliberately manufactured information, but they have made the treasonous decision to cover up for this most powerful man on the planet....
A man that has command of our military forces, the FBI, the Treasury et al, and who is shaping the world we live in. A demontrated con man ruining our blood-fought, exceptional country, unlike any that has ever existed on earth.
If untrue, open up why don't you, Barack H. Soetoro/Obama....clean up the questions, set the record straight, out in the open. Make believers out of us with facts and transparency.
But the real question goes to the conservative mavens. What would Thomas Jefferson do, Glenn Beck?
Would he roll over and shut his mouth while our precious America is being whittled away by a slick con?
ttp://www.youtube.com/user/ATLAHWorldwide#p/u/6/DV0RAuU0n2o
I along with Pissant were among the first on this forum to raise the birth certificate issue. It was an obsession of mine at the time. A simple google listed Obama as having been born in two different hospitals.
I even exchanged a few emails with Jim Geraghty who at first seemed to agree an in fact posted some blogs at the time, but then he went cold on the trail when he along with the others like O’Reilly, Coulter and others accepted the BC as being authentic and branded anyone who questioned Obama’s birth as “fringe.”
I’ve now come full circle. Obama staying in office is useful to our cause. I want him to run again in 2012. I don’t want him impeached. I don’t want anything happening that might produce any chance that Hillary Clinton gets in office.
The BC is a fake. That we can be of certain. The man’s academic records also hold some information that will question Obama’s place of birth along with other things.
In 2012 we will demand that he present everything. It must be brought up at every state, and news interview. He will not get away with this a second time.
But for now, forget the pundits, as they are not touching the BC, because to do so, will result in us losing the best hope we have of cleansing this country of these people for a long long time. I want Obama to stay in office, discredited as long as it takes to usher in another REagan.
Stopped listening to these “conservative” radio talkshow hosts since August 2008 when I realized that they were in it for the money only. No difference between them and congress critters.
But we should not be too critical on them — can you just imagine if they lost their jobs and had to rely on unemployment benefits? The poor things.
I agree and disagree. It’s like a house of cards. It’s like putting the finger in the dyke. Eventually, things will fall....
I truly believe that as long as Obama’s poll numbers stay below -20 he’s not going to be challenged,
But if the dems lose the house and the senate....look for him to lose much face with the democrats, and they will turn on him.
It’s more than the BC is all the other information that Americans wish to know but cannot find out about their president.
I limit my remarks to those documents that have been released. I leave interpretation of missing and nonexistent documents to others.
What on earth makes you think this?? Obama's approval numbers haven't been shown to benefit from 'birther' controversies. Do you think Barry's Gibbs is a great actor and only pretends to be exasperated when Les Kinsolving asks him about the issue?? Really??
Let’s all stay on point, shall we?
Asking WHY the loudest, most far-reaching conservative media voices are not shining a light on this debacle.
Why are the conservative mavens....Hannity, Limbaugh, Beck and possibly O’Reilly-—those that tout and extol our founding fathers with their vision, sacrifice and values...why are these allegedly conservative men of the media unwilling to stand up as PATRIOTS —with their unique technological ability to be heard by millions-—why are they not ASKING and ASKING and ASKING...and in doing so, EXPOSING the maniuplative theatre that is being played upon the people???
Is the sacrificial Lou Dobbs example all it took for these committed (sic) “passionate” patriots to compromise their beliefs in truth and the people’s
right to know?
It happened in Germany and many other countries. Most Germans enthusiastically endorsed Hitler. And no, I’m not saying Obama is another Hitler so don’t even go there.
I think it’s the notion of the “Overton Window” which I think Beck has been talking about lately. In our “free society” you get to debate whether you’re in favor of a very narrow range of options. Outside of that, you’re labeled a nutjob. The media very effectively frame the debate - our “free society” isn’t as free as some would have you believe.
You said: “The recently released passport files of Stanley Ann Dunham and Lolo Sotero seem to support the assumption that BHO was indeed born in Honolulu.”
I’ve read through those releases and can’t find any proof that he was born in Hawaii. Do you also discount the statements of his grandmother in Kenya that she was present at his birth in Mumbasa, Kenya? Do you discount the statements in the Kenyan parliament that Obama was born in Kenya?
I think that we must have traveled the same path on this and I agree with your current position on this issue. More important than the BC are the lies that he has told about his early life in college and in Chicago. His autobiographies were the first attempt to hide his life from the public. There have been many more since.
In 2012, his life, his political actions, and his dysfunctional behavior will be on full parade and the MSM will not be able to cover it over.
If he not a US natural born citizen it can’t be treason. Treason is for US citizens only.
“A people unwilling to use extreme violent force to preserve or obtain their libery deserves the tyrants that rule them.” sp
You said: “Stopped listening to these “conservative” radio talkshow hosts since August 2008 when I realized that they were in it for the money only.”
So just because they need to get paid for what they do you believe what they say is irrelivent?
The birth certificate number used on the factlack dot org photos very likely belongs to someone other than obama. A lie is one thing, but stealing someone else’s number (which also seems to be the case with his social security number) is the kind of fraud that doesn’t rely on interpreation and intent. It is criminal and Obama could be convicted or impeached much easier on this than on tall tales about his childhood.
Because the Birther Brigades are largely held up to ridicule by most Americans, including me. He is more than happy to advance the notion that all conservatives share your views.
Not irrelevant altogether, but they only say things that they know you want to hear and they DO NOT have a personal commitment. In fact, political mayhem in the country is their bread and butter. If all were well, they would lose their jobs.
But, as you mentioned, it's not a productive issue, right?? It doesn't help his approval ratings. It doesn't help his reelection chances ... and it makes it look like he's petty and unfocused on real problems. Sorry, but your argument is nonsense.
I wasn’t aware that Obama was responsible for the forgery that was posted. Did they find his DNA on it or something?
The Manning utube validates what many people have thought to be true, that Obama never attended Columbia University.
People in his year of said repeatedly that they don’t remember the man.
IF Obama worked for the CIA as Manning insists, then I guess that would make him a patriot would it not, if he fought against the Russians?
Thanks, since I believe that most everything that you say is nonsense, I'm encouraged by your thoughts on my arguments. I think its fair to say that we will continue to disagree.
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