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The Ishmael Connection to James Lee's view on immigration
TheBigIf | 9/2/10 | TheBigIf

Posted on 09/02/2010 4:20:42 PM PDT by TheBigIf

Sorry about the vanity but I already in the past few hours have heard multiple references stop not being sure what James Lee motives were or questions about whether he was right-wing or left-wing because he mentioned being against anchor babies. Alan Colmes on my drive home was ranting at Steve Mulzberg that he was against ‘anchor babies’ and that was a right-wing cause.

Well I happen to have the book ‘ISHMAEL’ on my bookshelf. I read it sometime about ten years ago and James Lee motives for being against immigration all come from this book as well.

It has been ten years so I may be a little off but this is what the book teaches:

The psychic gorilla in the book named Ishmael teaches James Lee about types of men called ‘Takers’ and ‘Leavers’. The ‘takers’ take from life and the ‘leavers’ leave life as it is and get along with it in harmony with it. The immigrants in the book were always ‘takers’. They migrate to rape more land and breed themselves into larger numbers. They do not live in harmony with the land but hunt and go out to gather from more and more swatches of land instead of living in harmony and giving back to the land to replenish it and grow at the rate of the land.

James Lee had no care for ‘border security’ or even was his goal a woman’s right to choose. His motivation was hatred for the people of mankind who he thought were the ‘Takers’.

Again I am sorry about the vanity. This is all off the top of my head as well being that I read the book at least ten years ago but I felt I had to vent about it being I was seeing articles even here on FR whereas people are acting like there is a question as to whether he was right-wing or left-wing.

James Lee was a disciple of Al Gore and Daniel Quinn. He was 100% left-wing.


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To: TheBigIf

Rather interesting the ‘disclaimer’ the author has up on the top of his site:

http://www.ishmael.com/welcome.cfm


21 posted on 09/02/2010 6:53:27 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (I don't have a 'Cousin Pookie'.)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

http://www.newtribalventures.com/


22 posted on 09/02/2010 6:54:47 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (I don't have a 'Cousin Pookie'.)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

Actually that is very interesting.

I have in many cases seen threads of thought whereas enviromentalism and tribalism have ties to Islam.

I know of another left-wing author who makes no bones about it and also leads a large movement of activists just as Quinn does. He is the leader of some whacked Mayan code that deals with us using the wrong calender or something. I am failing to remember the name... something like twelve moon or something.

This ahole lives in Oregan or something and is involved with the UN and has written many books and leads a movement geared towards kids. He is definetally a tribalist just as Quinn was.

In his book he flat out virually praises the terrorists of 9/11 and makes many gleeful references to the Koran as if a environmental force for good or something.

I had posted about the guy (on another site) and may have even called the FBI about the guy. I dont have his book on my shelf but in a box somewherre. Maybe I will look it back up and give the connection some more thought.


23 posted on 09/02/2010 7:00:13 PM PDT by TheBigIf
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To: TheBigIf

Remember this recently? Have we opened up a can ‘o’ worms, here? Hmmmmmmm.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1285332/Follow-Islamic-way-save-world-Charles-urges-environmentalists.html

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/06/prince-charles-urges-environmentalists-to-follow-islamic-spiritual-principles.html


24 posted on 09/02/2010 7:05:19 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (I don't have a 'Cousin Pookie'.)
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To: TheBigIf

This?:

http://tribes.tribe.net/not13moons


25 posted on 09/02/2010 7:08:55 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (I don't have a 'Cousin Pookie'.)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

No this link is closer:

http://www.13moon.com/world%20MOVEMENT%20drmwvr.htm

I will try to get a better link or more information on what I am talking about. Years ago I was very much up in arms about the guy behind this movement. He was totally apart of the tribalism movement and was really spinning a way to attract kids especially into it based upon a religious bent.

In the book of his I own and read he actually praised the terrorists of 9/11. I was pissed!!! I do believe that I even called the FBI to complain about this guy and make them aware.

Then I also find out he is heavily connected with the United Nations and leads a somewhat noticable cult-like movement.

I will get his name and say more later.


26 posted on 09/02/2010 7:15:15 PM PDT by TheBigIf
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

That is amazing and very interesting. I missed this news but it really lends to the thread of thought of how the left-wing and Islam and terroism are all connected.


27 posted on 09/02/2010 7:16:20 PM PDT by TheBigIf
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

I just remembered one of the other phrases of the guy and found his name.

His name is Jose Arguelles.

Left-wing scum praises the 9/11 terrorists and lives in Oregon. Is a professor at some Univ. and works closely with the United Nations and is trying to lead a movement based upon his love Islam and th enviroment.

http://www.lawoftime.org/


28 posted on 09/02/2010 7:21:42 PM PDT by TheBigIf
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To: TheBigIf

Here is a vid. This is definitely ‘koolaid cult status’.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obqp5M5C6bE

I used to be a liberal jackass and got into the whole ‘new age’ horse $hit. Boy am I glad I awoke! Seriously! Whew!


29 posted on 09/02/2010 7:28:10 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (I don't have a 'Cousin Pookie'.)
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To: TheBigIf

Here we go!

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:sOlw47XnpQgJ:world.unn13.com/articles/hexagram.html+Jose+Arguelles,+islam&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a


30 posted on 09/02/2010 7:35:07 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (I don't have a 'Cousin Pookie'.)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

I have been involved in aspects of new age thought and general spirituality for quite some time. There is a very large aspect to it all that is cultish and pure kool-aid drinking for the useful idiot.

Many of these cult like aspects try to get a person to feel and commit to being apart of the whole or the group as if a commune. They try to use nature as a means to make everyone feel as if we are all apart of the whole and magically special to find ourselves.

Then they get them to get trance-like and to feel as if they are the ones to finally become one with nature again. They then start to fill the mush of their minds with poisonous thoughts. For some of these useful idiots you could probably get them to believe almost anything once you lead them to such a state.

Honestly it is a wonder that I never became a left-wing loon being that I have been involved with these types of things. Thank God for whatever commonsense it is that I have been blessed with.


31 posted on 09/02/2010 7:38:49 PM PDT by TheBigIf
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To: TheBigIf

Well......I was young and STUPID. Lesson learned. Stronger because of it, thank God! And able to recognize it when it comes knocking on the door..........especially for my kids.


32 posted on 09/02/2010 7:46:17 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (I don't have a 'Cousin Pookie'.)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

Good find.

From that source:

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What has happened to us can be summed up in words of Jose Arguelles founder of Planet Art Network [PAN]. In his observation of the original Maya culture, from Pacal Volton and judgment day he writes “the original Maya who built their centers of thought and culture throughout Central America and Mexico, were following a stream of consciousness deliberately to this planet for a specific purpose-in a word, the original Maya were superior messengers of the instrument of divine will which is time itself.”

My research has proven that this same wave the ancient Maya rode and set up is the same vibration that revealed The Rastafari movement and the Nation of Islam under Elijah Muhammad. Jose Arguelles has realized this also, for he has recruited Tynetta Muhammad the last wife of The honorable Elijah Muhammad to help him in his project, to change the calendar currently used by 2004 into the moon calendar of 28 day months. This effort is to stop the coming destruction of the earth due to the chaos caused by the current calendar; so I ask Mother Tynetta, is this what you are suppose to be doing, did not Elijah say Babylon would be destroyed?

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Of course this freak who praises Islam also wants us all to live under the law of the Moon calender. Islam itself was considered to be orginiated from a lunar worship.

I seem to remember him equating Babylon with the World Trade Center as well. And in the end of what I posted from the source above he mentions it’s destruction in a statement calling for the return of Islamic law and worship.

He is a sick scumbag. I once even started debating someone who worked with after meeting them by chance on the fansite of a band I like. I am sure he may even have heard about how strongly I was pressing my dislike of him. As I said I even called the FBI in regars to this man years ago.


33 posted on 09/02/2010 7:47:59 PM PDT by TheBigIf
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

I am older now myself and I know also that I was much more stupid in my youth.

Today I take a stand for what is right. (The best I can) I also have a daughter and want to see the world defended from sick left-wing freaks such as this guy or Quinn or ...Al Gore or Al Quida (hmmm the two Als).

I’m glad to see you made here at FR and not as part of one of these whacked groups. I wish the best for you and yours!


34 posted on 09/02/2010 7:54:10 PM PDT by TheBigIf
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To: TheBigIf

Thanks TBI! You’re a sweetie! :-)


35 posted on 09/02/2010 7:58:17 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (I don't have a 'Cousin Pookie'.)
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To: TheBigIf

Where does that guy you referred to live in Oregon?

This is meaningful since the Church of the First Born has a number of congregations in the more desolate and rural parts of the state.


36 posted on 09/03/2010 4:02:11 AM PDT by muawiyah
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