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EMP: Death of America in the Blink of an Eye
scottfactor.com ^ | 12/02/2010 | Gina Miller

Posted on 12/02/2010 5:57:26 AM PST by scottfactor

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1 posted on 12/02/2010 5:57:27 AM PST by scottfactor
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To: scottfactor

read the book “One Second After”


2 posted on 12/02/2010 6:01:40 AM PST by vanilla swirl (We are the Patrick Henry we have been waiting for!)
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To: scottfactor

How did we ever get over the thousands of nuclear explosions, many hundred of which were high altitude, from the late 40s until the 80s?! EMP is overhyped, unless it bursts overhead;)


3 posted on 12/02/2010 6:02:34 AM PST by DCBryan1 (FORGET the lawyers...first kill the "journalists". (Die Ritter der Kokosnuss))
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To: scottfactor

If you want a good book to read on the matter, read “One Second After”. It’s fiction. The author did get the science right, though as he had the author of the US Army’s manual on EMP Effects assist him; apparently they know each other. He tells a rather plausible tale of what would happen in the US after the fact. It’s an enjoyable action yarn, to boot.


4 posted on 12/02/2010 6:03:16 AM PST by Turbo Pig (...to close with and destroy the enemy...)
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To: 50mm; darkwing104

blogpimp sniff....


5 posted on 12/02/2010 6:05:18 AM PST by DCBryan1 (FORGET the lawyers...first kill the "journalists". (Die Ritter der Kokosnuss))
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To: scottfactor
I think EMP is overrated, the Navy did test cars and trucks made from the mid 1980's to today and although the EMP shut the cars down, almost all the cars will start up again. Some cars/trucks did have some issues where the gauges in the dashboard did not work or were going crazy, but they were still driveable. I'd say your odds of your car starting again will be 90% to 95%. Your transistor radio should still work if the antenna is folded as well. However, I do see where EMP can hurt the power grid, so there goes the ability to pump gas unless you have a generator, a 12 volt pump or a hand pump.

EMP ain't the 800 lbs gorilla they make it out to be, more like a 500 lbs one, although they are right on with the effects to the economy.
6 posted on 12/02/2010 6:07:58 AM PST by Nowhere Man (General James Mattoon Scott, where are you when we need you? We need a regime change.)
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To: DCBryan1
How did we ever get over the thousands of nuclear explosions, many hundred of which were high altitude, from the late 40s until the 80s?! EMP is overhyped, unless it bursts overhead;)

Those tests were conducted under or near ground level. Historically, nuclear weapons have been used to inflict physical damage, and designed and tested for that. Setting one off at high altitute wouldn't give you much in the way of useful data to asses it's shock wave potential.

7 posted on 12/02/2010 6:14:06 AM PST by tacticalogic
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Geez I am as sick of these threads as I am “I want to buy gun”ones. IT IS WAAY OVERHYPED!!!!
8 posted on 12/02/2010 6:15:36 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ (V for Vendetta.)
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“Regardless, the Heritage EMP report advises swift action now to prevent the threat of EMP attacks.”

We currently prevent EMP attacks by assuring the nuclear destruction of any country that launches one against us.


9 posted on 12/02/2010 6:16:03 AM PST by Hacklehead (Liberalism is the art of taking what works, breaking it, and then blaming conservatives.)
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To: scottfactor

Wouldn’t a massive solar flare while the magnetosphere was weak (say during a polar shift) do pretty much the same thing?


10 posted on 12/02/2010 6:19:04 AM PST by RockyMtnMan
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To: RockyMtnMan

Yes.


11 posted on 12/02/2010 6:20:55 AM PST by Peter from Rutland
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To: scottfactor

An EMP attack will have us partying like it was 1899!!!

(Over-hyped)


12 posted on 12/02/2010 6:22:23 AM PST by Le Chien Rouge
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To: tacticalogic
Those tests were conducted under or near ground level

As someone who has actually touched special weapons as a nuclear materials courier for NNSA/OST there have been LOTS of exploded nukes at high altitude.

Research Operations Hardtack, Argus, and Dominic(sp), and all the Soviet tests at Kapustin Yar or Novaya Zemlya (sp).

13 posted on 12/02/2010 6:24:51 AM PST by DCBryan1 (FORGET the lawyers...first kill the "journalists". (Die Ritter der Kokosnuss))
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"EMP ain't the 800 lbs gorilla they make it out to be, more like a 500 lbs one, although they are right on with the effects to the economy."

In and of itself, EMP may be a 500 lb. gorilla, but do you really think this administration would let a crisis like that go to waste?

14 posted on 12/02/2010 6:26:09 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Nowhere Man
I do see where EMP can hurt the power grid, so there goes the ability to pump gas unless you have a generator, a 12 volt pump or a hand pump.

Also, the ability for most communities to pump water. This would create a crisis of immense proportions almost immediately. Shutting done the power gird is akin to shutting down the heart. It will matter little how healthy the rest of the body is at the time of the shutdown--the collective devastating impacts would quickly multiply and spread throughout society. Virtually all the dominoes would fall.

And the 1,000 or so main transformers that form the power grid? We have no replacements sitting in a warehouse, we no longer manufacture them domestically,and they take considerable time to manufacture.

The science is well-proven. Paradoxically, our evolution from robust and primitive vacuum tubes to microelectronic circuitry has made us orders of magnitude MORE susceptible to complete devastation via EMP than we were even 20 or 30 years ago.

15 posted on 12/02/2010 6:27:45 AM PST by behzinlea
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To: vanilla swirl

I did! I now never leave the house without my backpack of essentials and good walking boots in the trunk. Scared straight I guess.


16 posted on 12/02/2010 6:30:20 AM PST by pepperdog (Why are Democrats Afraid of a Voter ID Law?)
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To: Hacklehead
We currently prevent EMP attacks by assuring the nuclear destruction of any country that launches one against us.

And who do you nuke if a container ship with a Liberian flag lights one off 50 miles off the NJ shore and air bursts it over south Jersey taking out the Northeast corridor?

17 posted on 12/02/2010 6:34:40 AM PST by Malsua
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So repair or replace the broken stuff. But first, use the neutron bomb on the rag head country that did it and use their oil to pay for it all.


18 posted on 12/02/2010 6:34:50 AM PST by coon2000 (Give me Liberty or give me death!)
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To: DCBryan1

Hardtack I&II, Argus, and most of Dominic I&II were conducted far out to sea, and EMP wasn’t the focus of the test. The landbound tests in Nevada were small.

(H)EMP will be a much bigger problem than most people want to admit, if someone decides to hit us. The actual damage done will be very hard to fix in a timely manner. Taking out the power grid of much or all of the US would pretty much slide us into 2nd or 3rd world status in a very short amount of time.


19 posted on 12/02/2010 6:38:55 AM PST by ex 98C MI Dude (Alea Iacta Est)
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Poor NYC, out of power for one day. Houston was out of power for 2 weeks over most of the city and 3 weeks in some places and we didn't become animals in the dark. At least most of us didn't.

As far as this nuclear attack I pray to God it doesn't happen, those NYers would fan out across the country. (Just kidding ya’ll)

20 posted on 12/02/2010 6:47:44 AM PST by Ditter
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