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Dem says it’s wrong to celebrate Christmas if unemployment benefits not extended
Examiner ^ | December 4, 2010 | Marc Schenker

Posted on 12/04/2010 4:24:48 AM PST by Suvroc10

Dem says it’s wrong to celebrate Christmas if unemployment benefits not extended. On Thursday’s magnificent installment of "Hardball" on MSNBC (which is barely watched by anyone…except the hardest of hardcore libs), Congressman Jim McDermott was on with Chris Matthews, making the case about unemployment benefits extension, when he brought Christianity into the mix. According to McDermott, it’s "simply wrong" to celebrate Christmas and some of its themes like caring about the poor…if Americans do not support extending unemployment benefits. This week was a particularly insane week on "Hardball," as earlier in the week, Democrat senator Sherrod Brown blasphemed that unemployment benefits create jobs! Clearly, "Hardball" is becoming the clearing house of low-rated, cable "news" shows where wild Democrats appear to use twisted logic to make the case for unemployment benefits extension.

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TOPICS: Government; Politics; Religion; Society
KEYWORDS: chrismatthews; hardball; ideological; insane; mcdermott; what; who
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To: Vision
Disgusting how government has become “life” for so many; especially those who think they're too intelligent for religion.

Wow, that is good. You need to be President Palins speech writer.

21 posted on 12/04/2010 5:11:29 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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To: rideharddiefast
I realize some are put into bad situations through no fault of their own, but two years is plenty of time to find a new job. It is enough time to even get retrained into a completely different field.
The problem is with the deadbeats who want to continue on a never ending vacation.
22 posted on 12/04/2010 5:11:49 AM PST by John D
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To: digger48

Yep. I know someone who is choosing to stay unemployed and live off the government. The exact quote was, ‘not worth looking for a job when I’m getting unemployment.’


23 posted on 12/04/2010 5:13:57 AM PST by rintense (The GOP elite & friends can pound sand.)
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To: rideharddiefast
How long do these people expect to extend this welfare? If a person can not get a job in 2 years they are either not wanting one, or are never going to do what it takes to get one. Enough is enough.

So what do we do about it?

A huge portion of the unemployed are young people, whose labor value does not exceed minimum wage. Republicans should propose either lowering the minimum wage significantly, or allowing employee-employer to sign a waiver.

Young people would benefit from the initial job training that even burger-flipper jobs provide. How to show up. How to show up on time. How to show up on time dressed propertly. How to follow business protocols. How to cooperate with others. How to achieve goals. How to run a business. Plumbers would hire apprentices and train them. Construction people would train carpenters, roofers, electricians.

Perhaps the saddest of the sad unintended consequences of raising minimum wage is the loss of the willingness on the part of business to train workers, thereby increasing the value of their labor over time. This is why each minimum wage bill includes more and more tax money for worker training, which the private sector would do far better, and for free, in the absence of a minimum.

This is an issue that I hope the tea parties, since they're probably wondering what to do next, will take up. The tea parties should take it one issue at a time, and be willing to march to get a discussion going on this issue. The time is right. It is now a winning issue.

24 posted on 12/04/2010 5:15:51 AM PST by wayoverontheright
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To: rintense
The exact quote was, ‘not worth looking for a job when I’m getting unemployment.’

That has been the way with liberals as long as unemployment has been around.
25 posted on 12/04/2010 5:17:49 AM PST by John D
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To: Suvroc10

Democrats have the majority in both houses right now.

Hey America, Democrats have the majority in both houses right now!

Why do they (the media)call it a “lame duck session” when it really is not?

Why do the Pubes let them get away with it?

I hope the new crop coming in knows how to fight.


26 posted on 12/04/2010 5:30:11 AM PST by right way right
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To: rideharddiefast
"How long do these people expect to extend this welfare? If a person can not get a job in 2 years they are either not wanting one, or are never going to do what it takes to get one. Enough is enough."

Absolutely correct. We are just disguising another form of welfare. I guess we don't want to bruise liberal sensibilities.

27 posted on 12/04/2010 5:30:18 AM PST by Truth29
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To: Suvroc10

After 99 weeks it’s time to apply for welfare “benefits”, go to the churches and other charities for help.

Oh yeah, also sell the third car, sell the second car, cut the cable/satelite television, stop buying soda, cigarettes and renting movies, stop eating out.

And stop looking for a job and start looking for work.

I work everyday and I haven’t had a “job” or unemployment “benefits” in years.

It’s time to start allowing people to be poor.

Elections have consequences. These socialist/marxists were elected into power in 2008 and their goal is to bankrupt America and destroy free market, private sector capitalism.


28 posted on 12/04/2010 5:35:57 AM PST by reaganator
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To: Suvroc10

The Republicans were burned in the Great Depression, because they were seen, correctly, as letting people close to starvation fend for themselves. This millstone was around their necks, politically, until the curse was finally broken by Ronald Reagan, in the 1980s.

This is about 45 years of bitter hatred from entire families against the Republicans.

So let’s not do this again, m’kay?

Now, that being said, we need to be crystal clear that what the Republicans in congress are trying to do right now, is *not* to deny extended unemployment benefits to increasingly desperate people.

They are *not* trying to do this. *Not*, *not*, *not*!

Instead, they are *just* demanding that the money for extending these unemployment benefits *must* come from *CUTS* to other government spending.

The purpose is to stop the deficit from growing, *NOT* to hurt people!

*NOT* to hurt people!

Some of you “bootstrappers” out there are of the firm belief that jobs are out there, that there are cesspools that need to be cleaned with toothbrushes, and endless stoop labor jobs to pick dingleberries, both at hearty, luxurious minimum wages.

YOU’RE WRONG. Let’s be clear. While I’m as much in favor of former Microsoft Certified Software Engineers digging ditches, there are just not a heck of a lot of ditches that need to be dug. Especially by middle aged people whose entire careers have been pushing papers and crafting Powerpoint slides, before their retirement funds were looted and they were canned.

So back off. Economic downturns happen. It doesn’t mean that for one second you should revel in schadenfreude over the suffering of your fellow citizen.

$58 billion, to extend their benefits, isn’t squat, unless of course it is added to the multi-trillion dollar and growing deficit. If it is taken from the budget of the “Federal Office of Nanny-Statism and Bureaucratic Growth”, I have not problem AT ALL in it being given to unemployed people eking out a living right now.

But this money is all that stands between vast numbers of VOTERS and misery. Misery that can very easily turn against the Republicans and keep them out of office for another 45 years.

So let’s not mess it up. Again.


29 posted on 12/04/2010 5:40:47 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: Suvroc10
McDermott needs to realize that the "magic" of the democrat guilt-trip has about worn off. But then an abiding knowledge of human nature and life's wisdom has never been a strong suit with the democrats anyway.

I grew up in a cotton mill town, where lots of folks were poor and had a housefull of children. Some Christmas' the kids only got an Orange, or some candy...but they still had Christmas for Christmas' sake...not for the presents.

In that cotton mill town, if folks were laid off, they were just laid off...no unemployment benefits as a "wage" back then.

One of the most fantastic Christmas gifts of all has already been bestowed upon us this year, the routing of the Democrat congress and neutering of the kenyan. All of the tickled Elmos and video games in the world couldn't top that.

McDermott has received his talking points distribution form, and is rejugitating the "mean Republican" lines - never mind that they aren't in power YET. The democrats haven't been able to deliver on a lot of things they promised, and have had a supermajority for two years now...that doesn't say much for them.

Their "Santa Got Run Over By A Republican" song is just beginning, and it's going to get louder when they reach the Halleleujah chorus. Their plan - as usual, is - I can't make you like me, so I'll make you hate him more...like I said, no concept of human nature.

The mere fact however that he chose Chris Matthews show to deliver his programmed chant is very telling...in Matthews' far left corner of the world, no one celebrates Christmas anyway - at least not for the right reasons.


Tingle Legs


30 posted on 12/04/2010 5:44:22 AM PST by FrankR (Don't let the bastards wear you down!)
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To: John D

She and her boyfriend of two of the most liberal people I’ve ever met.


31 posted on 12/04/2010 5:44:26 AM PST by rintense (The GOP elite & friends can pound sand.)
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To: Suvroc10

“According to McDermott, it’s “simply wrong” to celebrate Christmas ...”

So instead of being honest about the pagan origins of Xmas and shunning it for the idolatry is clearly is, we should shun it in order to make a political point. I see.

Yet one more point of Saturnalia foolishness.


32 posted on 12/04/2010 5:48:35 AM PST by theBuckwheat
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To: Suvroc10

Birth of Christ - Free Government Money...
Birth of Christ - Free Government Money...
Birth of Christ - Free Government Money...
Birth of Christ - Free Government Money...

I don’t get it.


33 posted on 12/04/2010 5:54:49 AM PST by paulycy (Demand Constitutionality. Save America From Bankruptcy.)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

The Federal government is not empowered by the Constitution to be in the charity business.

There are charities that will help these people.

YOU may help these people.

I repeat, the federal government is not empowered by the constitution to PAY THESE PEOPLE NOT TO WORK.

Since my brothers refuse to work for $10.00 an hour theyeven get their schooling paid for.

I’m willing to work for $10.00 an hour, when I take classes I have to pay for them.


34 posted on 12/04/2010 6:01:30 AM PST by reaganator
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To: Suvroc10
Why is he demagogueingthe poor? They have the money in returned tarp and unspent stimulus funds? So why is he refusing to use that money? WHY AREN"T MORE PUBBIES ATTACKING THESE BASTURDS and calling them out on it?
35 posted on 12/04/2010 6:04:42 AM PST by Adder (Part 1 Accomplished)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Poor people play people who are willing to “help” them as suckers.

A woman that worked in my girlfriend’s resturant complained one Christmas that the Salvation Army did not give her children enough toys.

Of course both parents buy cigaretes EVERY day. $3650 per year?

I do not want to use my earned money to “help” people like this. Do you?


36 posted on 12/04/2010 6:05:28 AM PST by reaganator
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To: Suvroc10

They really don’t to celebrate Christmas. Ask them if they want to celebrate “kwanzaa.”


37 posted on 12/04/2010 6:12:10 AM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (Liberalism is against human nature. Practicing liberalism is detrimental to your mental stability.)
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To: Suvroc10
Wait a minute. Isn't McDermott an atheist?

5.56mm

38 posted on 12/04/2010 6:22:54 AM PST by M Kehoe
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To: Suvroc10

When did they ever celebrate Christmas?


39 posted on 12/04/2010 6:23:27 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: Suvroc10

You shouldn’t be buying Christmas gifts with UE benefits anyway!


40 posted on 12/04/2010 6:24:04 AM PST by CommieCutter (A Centrist Democrat is now defined as: between Socialism and Communism.)
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