Free Republic
Browse · Search
Bloggers & Personal
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Alex Schadenberg: Oregon citizen wants assisted suicide for people with Alzheimer's
Euthanasia Prevention Coalition ^ | 2/2/11 | Alex Schadenberg

Posted on 02/02/2011 3:59:10 PM PST by wagglebee

Rodger Winn, an Oregon citizen, wrote an article promoting the extension of assisted suicide laws to people with Alzheimer's that he titled: A matter of choice

Winn is proposing that the answer to people with Alzheimer's is to give them a lethal dose.

Since when is it a matter of choice for people who cannot ask for assisted suicide, and what happens when the person is unable to "self-administer" the lethal dose themselves. Well, self-administer is really a misnomer in Oregon because it has been defined as "to ingest" and because there is no witness required at the time of death. To ingest could mean that you swallow or that it is absorbed throught your IV.

I wonder if Winn would say that there is no fear of a slippery slope in Oregon?

Link to Winn's letter that was published on Oregon Live on Saturday, January 29, 2011.


TOPICS: Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: alzheimers; assistedsuicide; euthanasia; moralabsolutes; oregon; prolife
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-47 next last
I wonder if Winn would say that there is no fear of a slippery slope in Oregon?

People like Winn WANT the slippery slope.

1 posted on 02/02/2011 3:59:14 PM PST by wagglebee
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: cgk; Coleus; cpforlife.org; narses; Salvation; 8mmMauser
Pro-Life Ping
2 posted on 02/02/2011 4:01:10 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 185JHP; 230FMJ; AKA Elena; Albion Wilde; Aleighanne; Alexander Rubin; Amos the Prophet; ...
Moral Absolutes Ping!

Freepmail wagglebee to subscribe or unsubscribe from the moral absolutes ping list.

FreeRepublic moral absolutes keyword search
[ Add keyword moral absolutes to flag FR articles to this ping list ]


3 posted on 02/02/2011 4:02:47 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: wagglebee

Rodger Winn ought to DEMONSTRATE for us what this means ~ just give him some pills and a bottle of pristine mountain water ~ he chugalugs it all down ~ we’ll be the judge of whether or not it works.


4 posted on 02/02/2011 4:11:38 PM PST by muawiyah
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: wagglebee
Next they'll need assisted-suicide for the mentally ill, and belief in God will be defined as a delusional mental illness.
5 posted on 02/02/2011 4:35:31 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun." -- Barry Soetoro, June 11, 2008)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: BykrBayb; floriduh voter; Lesforlife; Sun; EternalVigilance
Ping
6 posted on 02/02/2011 4:38:54 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: E. Pluribus Unum

Bingo.


7 posted on 02/02/2011 4:50:15 PM PST by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: wagglebee

I know of a woman who bragged that she sat by and watched her own father being killed because he had Alzheimer’s. People were shocked at her attitude, and she was surprised that everyone didn’t praise her for it. Later, she became her mother’s care giver when her mother developed Alzheimer’s. When her mother died, she was very quiet about the circumstances. I’ve often wondered.

I’ve noticed that people who support killing off vulnerable people usually have personal reasons for that support.


8 posted on 02/02/2011 4:52:31 PM PST by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: wagglebee

This is evil.


9 posted on 02/02/2011 4:56:31 PM PST by La Lydia
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: wagglebee

Awful.

My grandma had alzheimer’s. We let her disease run it’s course, as awful as it was. And she died with me in her bed snuggled up to her as she drew her last breath. I hated how out of it she was, and I know she would have been embarrassed if she had any clue how she behaved in those final days. But I’m not God. Neither is my dad; there was never any talk of “pillow treatment” or anything like that So, we just had to deal with the cross we were given to carry. And that’s what we did. She was treated with respect & dignity until she died a NATURAL DEATH.


10 posted on 02/02/2011 4:57:22 PM PST by surroundedbyblue
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: surroundedbyblue
She was treated with respect & dignity until she died a NATURAL DEATH.

Death is rarely dignified; but dignity is the way we live and a large part of that is treating the dying with dignity. There is NO dignity is hastening a person's death.

11 posted on 02/02/2011 5:08:51 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: surroundedbyblue

Death is almost always painful, in various ways. Love and respect, like that shared by your family, helps to mitigate some of that pain. Killing only magnifies the pain. The best any of us can hope for is to be surrounded by loving people when our time here is done.


12 posted on 02/02/2011 5:39:04 PM PST by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: wagglebee; Salvation

Barfing Oregon Ping list.

Please everyone, Pray for Oregon. It may well be the most messed up state in the Union.


13 posted on 02/02/2011 6:29:51 PM PST by Danae (Anailnathrach ortha bhais is beatha do cheal deanaimha)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: wagglebee; All

I am not a supporter of euthanasia at all, but I’ve been grappling with a difficult question lately.

People are living longer with today’s medical care, but not necessarily healthier. In many cases, it seems that we’re just spending money to keep people with irreversible medical conditions alive another week (so to speak).

I mean, what’s the point of living to one’s 80s or 90s if you’re in such poor condition? Some enjoy excellent health into their old age, but all too many don’t.

If living to 100 means that I’m senile, have poor mobility, bad hearing, or anything like that, and can’t enjoy life or contribute anything productive to society, forget about it. I’d rather just go at 70 of a quick heart attack or whatever.


14 posted on 02/02/2011 10:58:52 PM PST by Strk321
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: wagglebee

People who are mentally impaired are not able to make decisions regarding life and death. This is wrong from every possible perspective.


15 posted on 02/03/2011 9:24:28 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: trisham
The death mongers DO NOT CARE, they consider the disabled to be "worthless eaters" who should be killed.
16 posted on 02/03/2011 9:25:44 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: Strk321
A heart attack is not the same as "assisted suicide". One might think that life without, for example, playing sports is not a life worth living, but as we age, we often find that reading a good book, going to a good movie, or sitting in the garden at twilight with a friend or loved one over a cup of tea or a glass of wine can be as wonderful as those things that we enjoyed as children and young adults.

I hope that as you continue to grapple with all of the questions and issues of life you will find that it is as precious as it is short. May God bless you, FRiend.

17 posted on 02/03/2011 9:38:54 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: BykrBayb

Right to Die = Duty to Die


18 posted on 02/03/2011 9:40:10 AM PST by dfwgator
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: wagglebee

There’s a strange detachment there, which seems to be more widespread in our society than might have seemed possible twenty or thirty years ago.


19 posted on 02/03/2011 11:12:57 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: trisham

“A heart attack is not the same as “assisted suicide”

That’s true; it’s not. William F. Buckley got it right, in my opinion. Had a quick heart attack while writing a column for his magazine. Not a bad way to go.

“we often find that reading a good book, going to a good movie, or sitting in the garden at twilight with a friend or loved one over a cup of tea or a glass of wine can be as wonderful as those things that we enjoyed as children and young adults.”

You can enjoy that if you’re in good health, not if you’re suffering all kinds of debilitating medical conditions.

Do you know that half of all medical expenditures in the United States are for persons over the age of 75?

“I hope that as you continue to grapple with all of the questions and issues of life you will find that it is as precious as it is short. May God bless you, FRiend.”

This particular question has really been nagging at me lately. Given that we’re all going to die eventually, it would be better to be healthy and active to the end. Unfortunately, all too many are not.


20 posted on 02/03/2011 3:55:23 PM PST by Strk321
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-47 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
Bloggers & Personal
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson