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FINAL REPORT: Obama's Birth Announcements Fail To Indicate "Natural Born" Status
The Daily Pen ^ | April 2, 2011 | Penbrook Johannson

Posted on 04/02/2011 3:13:05 PM PDT by Creme Brulee

A new investigation of Obama’s birth announcements appearing in Hawaii’s two primary newspapers in August, 1961 shows, conclusively, they were the result of a registration record taken by the municipal health authority, not a medically verified “Live" birth documented as occurring at a Hawaiian hospital, per an officially defined "vital event" by the U.S. Department of Health, National Vital Statistics Division protocols.

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1 posted on 04/02/2011 3:13:12 PM PDT by Creme Brulee
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To: Creme Brulee

Well, thank goodness that’s settled.

So, this’ll have him ousted tomorrow?

No? More ineffectual fluff & puffery?

I guess the realists will just keep working to vote him gone
instead of relying on document magic to dissolve him.


2 posted on 04/02/2011 3:18:55 PM PDT by humblegunner (Blogger Overlord)
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To: Creme Brulee

Let’s say, for the sake of argument, this is true. What happens then? Supreme Court, impeachment? Neither seems very plausible. Whatever the circumstances of Obama’s birth, we’re stuck with him until 2012 at the earliest, in my view.

I’m not saying people shouldn’t pursue this, I just don’t think anything will come of it.


3 posted on 04/02/2011 3:20:05 PM PDT by balch3
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To: Creme Brulee

Just refer to him as the Imposter American, the fake, the Fake Flake from Kenya, Product of Kenya or any other label.

See What you can come up with. Enough good Ideas will make for good bumper sticker slogans.


4 posted on 04/02/2011 3:24:02 PM PDT by jongaltsr (It)
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To: balch3
If proven ineligible it would be impossible to remove him. It would tear the nation apart and certainly lead to race riots. No one in Congress has the nerve to pursue enforcing the Constitution.

BUT - it would call to question the validity of any laws he has signed, or any executive orders he has created and probably eliminate a run at reelection, I would think.

5 posted on 04/02/2011 3:25:10 PM PDT by Baynative (Truth is treason in an empire of lies)
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To: Creme Brulee
Dear Mr. Beck,

Please don't bother to QUESTION WITH BOLDNESS ,, there's nothing to see here...

6 posted on 04/02/2011 3:32:28 PM PDT by Neidermeyer
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To: Creme Brulee

Stop the Poser in Chief!


7 posted on 04/02/2011 3:32:50 PM PDT by RedMDer (restoration of our honor, dignity, and freedoms will save America. - Sarah Palin)
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To: Baynative

Just one state needs to require evidence of birth place to get on the ballot for 2012. That would be very interesting.


8 posted on 04/02/2011 3:32:59 PM PDT by Starboard
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To: Creme Brulee

So it’s not a medically “live” birth...no surprise there.


9 posted on 04/02/2011 3:33:17 PM PDT by Paved Paradise
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To: Baynative
...and certainly lead to race riots...

Those are coming regardless. When the occupants of inner city wastelands like Detroit MI and Camden NJ start to realize they aren't gonna get their free kitchens and concierge doctors, they are going to explode.

10 posted on 04/02/2011 3:36:15 PM PDT by Never on my watch (WTF happened to my country?)
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To: balch3

As usual, NOTHING happens, but the article does serve to answer the questions that are often asked about the birth announcement(s) - the questions that are usually meant to mock. I gave up (long ago) believing that his reign would come to an early end.


11 posted on 04/02/2011 3:37:25 PM PDT by Creme Brulee
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To: LucyT; butterdezillion; Danae

ping...


12 posted on 04/02/2011 3:39:53 PM PDT by Seizethecarp
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To: Creme Brulee

“I found thousands of birth registration records of children born outside of Hawaii who have their announcements published in these two newspapers by cross referencing the announcements with the U.S. Department of Health Vital Records Report for Hawaii.”


13 posted on 04/02/2011 3:41:31 PM PDT by cycle of discernment
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To: Creme Brulee
A man can be convicted of murder with this type of evidence and the leader of the Free World cannot be removed from office for being Constitutionally unfit.

What we have is a man who was not properly vetted for the job because, to do so, would have had the race card thrown like a weapon.


14 posted on 04/02/2011 3:42:28 PM PDT by jonrick46 (2012 can't come soon enough.)
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To: Creme Brulee

BOR said the other night when he had trump on his show that it would be impossible for those birth announcements to exist without the hospital of birth calling it in and officially verifyiing obamas birth. What a bunch of horse s### BOR spews out of his mouth


15 posted on 04/02/2011 3:42:48 PM PDT by Free Per the Constitution
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To: Creme Brulee

“I gave up (long ago) believing that his reign would come to an early end.”

Alas! I agree. Obama is a blatant criminal tyrannical dictator and nobody (who can change it) cares =(


16 posted on 04/02/2011 3:43:23 PM PDT by vanilla swirl (We are the Patrick Henry we have been waiting for!)
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To: cycle of discernment

“The birth location is mistakenly implied by people because it appears in this newspaper. I also found several birth records in Japan for birth’s registered in Hawaii.” A review of all the birth announcements in Hawaii in 1961 reveals other evidence suggesting a disconnect between the Department of Health and Hawaii’s hospitals.


17 posted on 04/02/2011 3:43:30 PM PDT by cycle of discernment
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To: cycle of discernment

“Did anyone notice the announcements are not in any alphabetic order, or in order of birthdate? This is because, in 1961, birth registration numbers were issued based on the location of the local Vital Records office in which the registration was recorded. The hospital does not assign these numbers, the DOH does. It appears that Obama’s birth was registered in an office not used by any of the birth registrations offices who received birth certification from either Kapi-olani Medical Center, or Queens Medical Center which use two local offices near those facilities,” said Crosby.

He continued, “It appears Obama’s birth was registered with the satellite office near his grandparent’s home some distance from the offices nearest to and most used by the hospitals. This particular office was commonly used by indigenous people of Hawaii wanting to record births of children outside of the city.

This is why the U.S. Department of Health created the Certificate of Live Birth template in 1959 with a check box indicating whether or not the child was born in the city limits and if the residence of the mother was a farm or not.

It appears Obama’s birth at least did not occur in the city of Honolulu and, at most, did not even occur in the state of Hawaii.”


18 posted on 04/02/2011 3:44:17 PM PDT by cycle of discernment
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To: Creme Brulee
Sorry for not posting this snippet from the article:

“Did anyone notice the announcements are not in any alphabetic order, or in order of birthdate? This is because, in 1961, birth registration numbers were issued based on the location of the local Vital Records office in which the registration was recorded. The hospital does not assign these numbers, the DOH does. It appears that Obama’s birth was registered in an office not used by any of the birth registrations offices who received birth certification from either Kapi-olani Medical Center, or Queens Medical Center which use two local offices near those facilities,” said Crosby.

He continued, “It appears Obama’s birth was registered with the satellite office near his grandparent’s home some distance from the offices nearest to and most used by the hospitals. This particular office was commonly used by indigenous people of Hawaii wanting to record births of children outside of the city. This is why the U.S. Department of Health created the Certificate of Live Birth template in 1959 with a check box indicating whether or not the child was born in the city limits and if the residence of the mother was a farm or not. It appears Obama’s birth at least did not occur in the city of Honolulu and, at most, did not even occur in the state of Hawaii.”

19 posted on 04/02/2011 3:45:02 PM PDT by Creme Brulee
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To: cycle of discernment

“This also explains why Obama’s birth announcements appear in the succession of announcements where and when they do. His alleged “Certification of Live Birth” is not approved by any federal authority as an official source of demographic data or medical verification of his birth.

It is merely a record of birth registration. Therefore, the order of printing of announcements in the local papers comes directly from the list which is ordered based on the birth registration office location, not the chronological or alphabetical order of the medically verified birth.”

Crosby’s says the difference between “medically verified” and “registration” are significant.

He interviewed former Vital Records Adminstration, Martin Hesch in order to gain understanding of the different procedures and authorities used to create vital records and public announcements in a medical verification process as opposed to merely registering a vital event with a municipal office.

“I think people simply want to believe a simple equation to this issue,” said Hesch, when asked why he thought so many people ignorantly believe what they are told about Obama’s records.

“That is why they think that a birth announcement in a local paper is somehow an automatic indication of a local birth.

Unfortunately, they wrongly accept a locally appearing birth announcement as an indication of medically confirmed ‘local birth’ and that just simply is not the way it is in most cases in Hawaii in early part of its history.

The media also wants Barack Obama’s natal circumstances and documentation to fit the traditional record model because it is too disturbing to them to think that they were so easily deceived… but we also now know they do not fit this model.”


20 posted on 04/02/2011 3:46:37 PM PDT by cycle of discernment
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To: cycle of discernment

Hesch agreed that there is probably information in the original medical birth record which undermines Obama’s identity as a politician and that is the reason why Obama is refusing to disclose it.

“Oh, sure, he is hiding something,” he said, “that is a fact and that is the only reason NOT to disclose it. Because, if the original medical record supported his current identity, he would be stupid to keep it hidden. It would only support him in that case.”

When asked his opinion about Obama’s case, Hesch said that is a certainty in his mind that Obama’s birth documentation was subjected to administrative processes or amendments and that his medically verified natal records show information that the local vital records authority is able to protect under law under the guise of identity protection.

“Of course, it’s ridiculous,” said Hesch, “the Secret Service is not required here. This is natal information which occurred 50 years ago, not a public appearance where the president is under any threat. The only reason to hide the original record is to protect something Obama doesn’t want people to know about him and how that information adversely impacts his ability to be president. It’s plain and simple to me.”


21 posted on 04/02/2011 3:49:40 PM PDT by cycle of discernment
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To: humblegunner
I guess the realists will just keep working to vote him gone instead of relying on document magic to dissolve him.

And then all future lists of Presidents of the United States should show an asterisk after his name.

22 posted on 04/02/2011 3:49:52 PM PDT by immadashell
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To: humblegunner
Well, thank goodness that’s settled.

No. Not so for Obama.

“The birth announcements were printed from unconfirmed information provided to the Newspapers by the Department of Health without the DOH or newspaper editors confirming the actual location of the birth with any hospital in Hawaii,” says Crosby in a phone call from Oahu, “I found thousands of birth registration records of children born outside of Hawaii who have their announcements published in these two newspapers by cross referencing the announcements with the U.S. Department of Health Vital Records Report for Hawaii.”


We see that you can call the Hawaiian newspapers about a birth halfway around the world and they will print about it.

23 posted on 04/02/2011 3:50:11 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Creme Brulee

comments:
cfkerchner said...
Very good report. This confirms what I had deduced using tools from years of being a hobby genealogist when I filed my lawsuit against Obama & Congress in January 2009. Here is my recitation of that deduced narrative to explain Obama’s fraudulent nativity story and the two newspaper birth announcement to Bill Cunningham on his radio show in August 2009 broadcast out of Cincinnati OH.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmZpwcRf3FQ

Again excellent field work in Hawaii and if anyone doubts that Obama was only falsely registered (probably by Grandma Dunham) as physically born in Hawaii and not actually born there (which it is very obvious to anyone investigating all the reports about Obama that he was not really born there) your report puts the last nail in the Obot’s spin and talking points coffin.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/50610336/Obama-Ineligible-14-Mar-2011-Washington-Times-National-Weekly-edition-pg-5

CDR Charles Kerchner (Ret)
Lehigh Valley PA USA
http://www.protectourliberty.org

April 2, 2011 8:57 AM
Puzo1 said...
Excellent field work which confirms our suspicions regarding Obama being born in Hawaii. For other evidence which supports this suspicion, see my essay entitled, A Catalog of Evidence - Concerned Americans Have Good Reason to Doubt that Putative President Obama Was Born in Hawaii, at
http://puzo1.blogspot.com/2010/05/catalog-of-evidence-concerned-americans.html.

Mario Apuzzo, Esq.
http://puzo1.blogspot.com

April 2, 2011 11:34 AM


24 posted on 04/02/2011 3:51:11 PM PDT by cycle of discernment
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To: Baynative
It would tear the nation apart and certainly lead to race riots.

Excellent reason to ignore the Constitution. Not.

25 posted on 04/02/2011 3:52:28 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: humblegunner

Bfl.


26 posted on 04/02/2011 3:53:21 PM PDT by GlockThe Vote (Who needs Al Queda to worry about when we have Obama?)
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To: Creme Brulee

..how much more info exposing this scumbag is needed?

http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?singlepost=2490825


27 posted on 04/02/2011 3:54:39 PM PDT by Doogle ((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Creme Brulee
O’Reilly has been told this over and over and yet still thinks that paper ad is conclusive evidence that Obama is legal. I've told him that, how would he like to see that same Honolulu paper with his birth notice right under Obama’s. The point being , when it comes to printed papers and documents they can be altered in many ways.
28 posted on 04/02/2011 3:55:32 PM PDT by fish hawk (R. Emmett Tyrrell: Liberalism is dead. What we see now is "soft Nazis-ism".)
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To: Red Steel
We see that you can call the Hawaiian newspapers about a birth halfway around the world and they will print about it.

Surely.

And that removes Obama HOW exactly?

29 posted on 04/02/2011 3:56:11 PM PDT by humblegunner (Blogger Overlord)
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To: Creme Brulee

How much more evidence do we need. It actually doesn’t matter if he was born in HI. He claims his father is BHO Sr. who was a foreign student on a foreign student visa...who cares if we have a BC or not...he is not QUALIFIED to be a president of the USA.


30 posted on 04/02/2011 3:58:58 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: humblegunner
I get a kick out of people like you. Even if it shows him illegal and nothing happens about it, don't you want to know the truth? The truth being that he lied to you all along. I'm a “birther” but I don't expect anything out of this until way after Obama is out of office and maybe never. Still I want to know the truth.
31 posted on 04/02/2011 3:59:32 PM PDT by fish hawk (R. Emmett Tyrrell: Liberalism is dead. What we see now is "soft Nazis-ism".)
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To: Creme Brulee
"Hey. You Birthers are dopes. We looked in to all of this on the Factor. We didn't find a BC but Obama was born here. You can trust me. I'm looking out for the folk for f$%k sake."


32 posted on 04/02/2011 3:59:55 PM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: Creme Brulee
" Did anyone notice the announcements are not in any alphabetic order, or in order of birthdate? This is because, in 1961, birth registration numbers were issued based on the location of the local Vital Records office in which the registration was recorded. The hospital does not assign these numbers, the DOH does. It appears that Obama’s birth was registered in an office not used by any of the birth registrations offices who received birth certification from either Kapi-olani Medical Center, or Queens Medical Center which use two local offices near those facilities,” said Crosby. "

Rut Roh Saggy , that means ? and proves that Obama was not born at any hospital in Hawaii.

Notice ? he says ? " in 1961, birth registration numbers were issued based on the location of the local Vital Records office in which the registration was recorded. The hospital does not assign these numbers, the DOH does "

The registration numbers are not issued by the hospitals, they are issued by the Department of Health in Hawaii.

So that means ? someone filled out a birth registration at the DOH in Hawaii.

If Obama was not born in any hospitals in Hawaii ? where then ? did either his mother, grandmother, or someone else get the information for those registration numbers ?
Could it be very well ? that the Kenyan birth certificate registration numbers that Lucus Smith posted be the same numbers what Obama's grandmother or someone else called into Hawaii from Kenya ?
33 posted on 04/02/2011 4:02:28 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: humblegunner
And that removes Obama HOW exactly?


It means that the propaganda put out by the OBots is false. That getting a Hawaiian newspaper to write a blurb about a birth didn't have to be from an Hawaiian hospital.

34 posted on 04/02/2011 4:03:58 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: fish hawk
The truth being that he lied to you all along.

Some of us are not surprised by that fact.

Point is that the best thing to be done about it is to vote him out.

35 posted on 04/02/2011 4:04:16 PM PDT by humblegunner (Blogger Overlord)
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To: Creme Brulee

This article is excellent ... assuming naysayers in the liberal MSM, not to mention several so called conservative commenter types, will read this ... it will certainly give them pause for thought. The evidence against Obama being qualified to be POTUS is mounting ... quality information of this kind is damning ... no question.


36 posted on 04/02/2011 4:05:06 PM PDT by BluH2o
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To: balch3

I am interested because I NEVER want this to happen again.


37 posted on 04/02/2011 4:06:25 PM PDT by Politicalmom ("We are an 'entitlement' society and we need to move towards being an 'empowerment' society"-H. Cain)
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To: humblegunner
Well, thank goodness that’s settled. So, this’ll have him ousted tomorrow? No? More ineffectual fluff & puffery? I guess the realists will just keep working to vote him gone instead of relying on document magic to dissolve him.

Did you even bother reading the article, before posting that comment? Of course not. Because, had you read it, you would have seen no suggestion that this information could be used to remove him. It simply explained how birth announcements came to appear in Hawaiian newspapers. In other words, it addressed the bogus claim that somehow these announcements are enough to prove he was born in Hawaii.

38 posted on 04/02/2011 4:07:25 PM PDT by Creme Brulee
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To: ladyjane

“It would tear the nation apart and certainly lead to race riots.

Excellent reason to ignore the Constitution. Not.”

You know, if people are willing to kill you off politically, there isn’t a whole lot of difference. Your ability to function, travel freely, work, afford anything...is directly affected. If Blacks and others are willing to go physical and kill others once learning the Truth, what would they do for a lie? Tear up LA? And this says exactly what about them and their living in the US?


39 posted on 04/02/2011 4:07:53 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: humblegunner

No, the best thing to be done is to deny him ballot on enough states that he doesn’t bother running in 12.

Which IS voting him out, in a pre-emptive way. Skipping all the commercials, too.


40 posted on 04/02/2011 4:07:53 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: Lazlo in PA
"Says Crosby in a phone call from Oahu, “I found thousands of birth registration records of children born outside of Hawaii who have their announcements published in these two newspapers by cross referencing the announcements with the U.S. Department of Health Vital Records Report for Hawaii.”



O'Reilly to Trump -- That's Impossible!

41 posted on 04/02/2011 4:08:44 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Creme Brulee
Here is a theory ? What would happen to his alleged and supposed birth date ? if ? we find out ? that who ever filled out the registration sent it in to that field office before he was actually born ?

42 posted on 04/02/2011 4:09:34 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: Creme Brulee

Pretty interesting.


43 posted on 04/02/2011 4:10:17 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: Creme Brulee
“Oh, sure, he is hiding something,” he said, “that is a fact and that is the only reason NOT to disclose it. Because, if the original medical record supported his current identity, he would be stupid to keep it hidden. It would only support him in that case.”

This report is brilliant.

The walls are closing in around you, Obama, or whatever your name really is. I am sure you have your lawyers working nights and weekends to construct your NEXT phony identity: the one where you had NO IDEA you were never eligible. Let's try floating that one next. See if all the Americans you tricked just go along with you some more.

44 posted on 04/02/2011 4:10:37 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: ladyjane

Agreed! I wouldn’t want to see race wars, but should we let OUR CONSTITUTION be stepped on because we are worried we might upset a particular race. I think not!
Some people think it is trivial, I for one, do not. Our Founder Fathers didn’t either or they would not have put it in the Constitution. Let the investigations begin and Impeach if proven.


45 posted on 04/02/2011 4:10:44 PM PDT by lauld
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To: American Constitutionalist

Many , many people in Africa say Kenya. ~Even Kenyans~


46 posted on 04/02/2011 4:11:13 PM PDT by himno hero ("armageddon is well seeded, America will pay"...Barrack Obama)
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To: Creme Brulee

Another communique from the alternate universe that stunningly reveals:

birth announcements published in newspapers are not legal documents.

A careful and exhaustive multi-year investigation of this issue failed to examine the actual birth certificate.

We should ignore the second point and jump to the conclusion that the first point proves beyond doubt that Obama was not born in Hawaii.

Obama’s birth certificate has either gone down the memory hole or is securely locked up in Al Gore’s lockbox out of the reach of our intrepid little band of researchers. Until that annoying little fact is changed, this goes nowhere. A better use of these folks time would be to work to discover what the O-man was doing during his early life in Hawaii, Indonesia, California, New York, and Chicago. Lot’s of fishy stuff going on there.


47 posted on 04/02/2011 4:13:04 PM PDT by centurion316
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To: Baynative
It would tear the nation apart and certainly lead to race riots.

So we should be held hostage by those who would threaten us with riots?

I guess we'll never cut any entitlements, get rid of illegals or should even consider reducing spending because those things too are going to cause riots.

Better to let the Country collapse than have riots /s

48 posted on 04/02/2011 4:13:29 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (The Tree of Liberty did not grow from an ACORN!)
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To: Creme Brulee
Here's one of the winning lines in the whole article:

" The media also wants Barack Obama’s natal circumstances and documentation to fit the traditional record model because it is too disturbing to them to think that they were so easily deceived… but we also now know they do not fit this model.”
49 posted on 04/02/2011 4:13:42 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: Creme Brulee
TRUMPNERVE
50 posted on 04/02/2011 4:14:36 PM PDT by FrankR (The Evil Are Powerless If The Good Are Unafraid! - R. Reagan)
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