Obama's aunt angry at Trump (Now she claims family got letter from BHO Sr. in Hawaii)

That was the most fascinating ZOT I think I have seen. I was unaware that there is a site devoted to infiltrating other forums and steering debate. I am not a conspiracy theorist, but digging through that site, one could easily get the impression that it could have been created out of the WH.

She is apparently whining about being shown the door at FR over their right now and complains that there is no debate on both sides of the BC issue here. I have never noted that. There have been full open debates. Thanks for the information on that place. Very interesting.

1,561 posted on 04/27/2011 7:57:11 AM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)

Per Seizethecarp:

“The conversation you refer to involving Auma and the estate of BHO Sr. is ONLY sourced to dialog in Dreams which was most likely invented by Ayers and/or Obama (Ayers is quoted as saying he “wrote the whole thing,” IIRC).”

Per bgill:

“There is an interview with Kezia up thread that I'm referring to. My mistake in that I should have said both Kezia and Auma. Kezia, in the interview, says there was no civil ceremony, meaning it was basically a tribal jump the broom type thing where nothing was legally documented. If it's not documented, then the marriage would not be recognized by American courts so the supposed marriage between Ann and Sr. would be legal.”

IIRC, Kezia has never confirmed that she or her children were denied any inheritance from BHO Sr. as claimed in the Ayers/Obama written dialog in Dreams that they put in the mouth of Kezia’s daughter, Auma.

IIRC, Kezia explicitly confirms a tribal dowry and marriage which appears to conform to the provisions in the 1902 Kenya Marriage Act for a non-Muslim legal tribal marriage.

As I have previously posted:

• See Kenya Marriage Act of 1902 paragraph #49:
49. Whoever contracts a marriage under this Act, being at the time married in accordance with native law or custom or in accordance with Mohammedan law to any person other than the person with whom such marriage is contracted, shall be guilty of an offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding five years.

kenyalaw.org/family/statutes/...?file=The+marriage+act.pdf

American courts, if ever litigated, would look to and defer to the law in Kenya to determine whether the Obama-Kezia marriage was legal. Sovereign states defer to each other’s domestic laws.

From the above it appears that it is illegal to contract a statutory non-tribal, non-Muslim marriage subsequent to a tribal marriage, even if it is a subsequent Muslim marriage.

The sovereign US state of Hawaii would NOT recognize in the US a bigamous marriage, even to a Muslim. One of the sworn statements that BHO Sr. would almost certainly have had to sign in HI to obtain the marriage license in 1961 to marry SAD would have required him to declare that he was not currently legally married to anyone else.

Having signed that statement and gone through the marriage, the marriage would be recognized as legal in HI until and unless challenged, which it never was.

The marriage in HI was NOT legal back in UK colonial Kenya, IMO, and thus UK citizenship would NOT pass to BHO II under the explicit provisions of the 1948 BNA.

I have seen no evidence that BHO II was ever claimed to UK authorities to be a legitimate UK subject by BHO Sr. or any evidence that Barry or his mom ever tried to register Barry as a UK subject. Therefore I doubt Barry was ever a dual citizen, but rather an illegitimate US national based, under established international law, on his single mom's nationality.

BTW, this mornings news that Barry has "released" the long form moves the ball forward, but this BC has still never been placed into evidence in any court in a sworn deposition, so Obama can still evade having discovery of all of the data on the BC.

1,562 posted on 04/27/2011 9:00:35 AM PDT by Seizethecarp

To: Osage Orange; LorenC

1,563 posted on 04/27/2011 9:59:39 AM PDT by Osage Orange (I knew what I was feeling, but what was I thinking!)

To: Red Steel; LucyT; Fred Nerks

http://nobarack08.wordpress.com/2011/04/27/1959-or-1962-does-it-matter/ Picture Obama Sr being welcomed by Stanly Armour.

Note the caption again. ‘Welcoming ceremony’. No look at the following newspaper article dated June 20th 1962.

The paper reports that Obama Sr. began his studies three years ago, placing his arrival in Hawaiiin 1959.

http://nobarack08.wordpress.com/2011/04/27/1959-or-1962-does-it-matter/

1,564 posted on 04/27/2011 12:01:03 PM PDT by GregNH (Re-Elect "No Body")

To: Jim Robinson

I’ve seen that coming for a few days .. :D

Bikk

1,565 posted on 04/27/2011 1:01:45 PM PDT by Bikkuri

1,567 posted on 04/27/2011 2:42:32 PM PDT by bvw

hehehe...been holding back a little...waiting.

1,568 posted on 04/27/2011 2:45:39 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)

1,569 posted on 04/27/2011 3:05:06 PM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the chariot wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)

To: Fred Nerks; BP2; RummyChick; Sprite518; palmer; aphid; Gvl_M3; tsowellfan; ImphClinton; rintense; ..

Good to see they have at least kept the same certificate number as provided by factcheck, because as we all know, the scan shown on the fightthesmears website only showed a black rectangle -

but that page appears to have been removed and replaced with this: PRESIDENT 0BAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE

NOW LET'S GO BACK A BIT... TO WHAT FREEPER BP2 showed us in August, 2009:

Anyway you cut it, 0bama's Certificate number should be BEFORE, not AFTER, the Nordyke twins!

. . . . Graphic, and more at # 1,566.

Thanks, Fred Nerks.

1,570 posted on 04/27/2011 3:07:54 PM PDT by LucyT

NICE JOB!!!! That’s often what it takes to get these Obots zotted. Well done!

1,571 posted on 04/27/2011 3:18:13 PM PDT by mojitojoe ( 1400 years of existence & Islam has 2 main accomplishments, psychotic violence and goat curry)

1,572 posted on 04/27/2011 3:32:58 PM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)

To: Jim Robinson; SandRat; Kathy in Alaska; Fred Nerks; BP2; RummyChick; Sprite518; palmer; aphid; ...

Again.

(This time it is piled higher and deeper.)

. . . . Here is frmail:

Zero's father served in WW2?? Really??

How can we not believe some of the charges (against 0bumma) about citizenship, religion, etc., after hearing what he says on this?

0bama said his father served in WW II? Barack’s father served in WW II?

He said so in a speech. Here is an 18 second video:

CNN News clip: >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fv4jnlkxOaw

Is he a compulsive liar? Were there no reporters who checked or double checked these statements and called the party on this? They did for everyone else. Why not him?

Like it or not, here are the TRUE facts: Barack Hussein 0bama Sr.

(0bama’s father) Born: 4/4/36 Died: 11/24/82 at the age of 46.

He was 5 years old when WW II started, and less than 9-1/2 yrs old when it ended.

Lolo Soetoro (0bama’s step father) Born: 1935 Died: 3/2/87 at the age of 52.

He was 6 years old when WW II started, and 10 years old when it ended. He must have been the youngest Veteran in the war.

Watch the video. RIGHT OUT OF HIS MOUTH!

Thanks, bergmeid. There are lies, - and then there are damned lies. This is beyond infuriating.

1,573 posted on 04/27/2011 3:32:58 PM PDT by LucyT

More lies...

Nice catch

1,574 posted on 04/27/2011 3:38:18 PM PDT by Sprite518

I need to learn how to post with a screen shot.

RE: Connecticut SS Number and BOR claiming that Barry’s daddy lived in Connecticut, that’s why it was issued there. (editorial comment, how STUPID, do they think we are? Barry Sr. left Harvard, Mass MANY YEARS BEFORE THAT SS# WAS ISSUED.

There was an article on About.com, that listed his birth as Queens hopsital, and Barry Sr. living in Connecticut.

I contacted the author of the article a couple days ago. I haven’t heard back from her, BUT, the article has been fixed to get rid of the Conn. reference AND THE QUEENS HOSPITAL REF.

I had respect for this author as she is very experienced in Ancestry. I’d like to give her the benefit of the doubt and assume that About.com scrubbed it, but I think it was the author since I haven’t heard SQUAT after. I did ask her where she obtained her information about Conn. Since I don’t anticipate receiving an answer, I will assume she got the info from everyone that I could find that quoted it, Snopes.

1,575 posted on 04/27/2011 3:38:24 PM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)

To: LucyT; Fred Nerks

I remember reading about the baby that died. Is it possible to know what the certificate number was on her BC? At this point I think B0 is grasping for razor blades instead of straws. He’s desperate.

1,576 posted on 04/27/2011 3:40:24 PM PDT by azishot (Everyone is entitled to my opinion.)

I think it’s safe to assume that Barry has Borderline Personality Disorder. He’s a sociopath.

1,577 posted on 04/27/2011 3:40:42 PM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)

HAHAHAHA! About damn time.

1,578 posted on 04/27/2011 3:42:46 PM PDT by mojitojoe ( 1400 years of existence & Islam has 2 main accomplishments, psychotic violence and goat curry)

Outstanding work! Beautiful!

1,579 posted on 04/27/2011 3:43:10 PM PDT by Sprite518

Maybe he did tell the truth and his father is Gramps. :P

1,580 posted on 04/27/2011 3:44:42 PM PDT by mojitojoe ( 1400 years of existence & Islam has 2 main accomplishments, psychotic violence and goat curry)

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