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President Obama releases long-form birth certificate
Politico ^ | 4/27/11 10:31 AM EDT

Posted on 04/27/2011 7:51:22 AM PDT by DBCJR

President Obama hopes to finally end questions about his citizenship with the release of his long-form Hawaiian birth certificate.

Obama said in a brief appearance before the cameras Wednesday morning that he decided on the release because the conspiracy theory over where he was born had eclipsed the debate on the budget.

“We do not have time for this kind of silliness,” Obama told reporters. “I’ve got better stuff to do.”

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TOPICS: Conspiracy
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; certifigate; colbfake; dualcitizenship; obama
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Why did it take so long?
1 posted on 04/27/2011 7:51:30 AM PDT by DBCJR
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To: DBCJR
Why did it take so long?

Exactly. It took 5 minutes. Why not do this 3 years ago?

2 posted on 04/27/2011 7:52:42 AM PDT by Pete (29thday.org Exponential problems require exponential solutions)
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To: DBCJR
This is not the long form birth certificate. This is a COLB yet again. Who was the attending physician?
3 posted on 04/27/2011 7:53:20 AM PDT by frogjerk (I believe in unicorns, fairies and pro-life Democrats.)
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To: DBCJR

I have better stuff to do, now if you will excuse me, I have to go do oprah.


4 posted on 04/27/2011 7:53:23 AM PDT by biggredd1
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To: DBCJR

“We do not have time for this kind of silliness,” Obama told reporters. “I’ve got better stuff to do.” ...

“Now I have to get back to work for the American People.” Pres. Clinton after Lewinsky.


5 posted on 04/27/2011 7:53:54 AM PDT by Hang'emAll
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To: DBCJR

>>“We do not have time for this kind of silliness,” Obama told reporters. “I’ve got better stuff to do.” <<

This is a flip flop. You don’t spend millions trying to hide something and then release it with the above comment.

That is just stupid. Literally.


6 posted on 04/27/2011 7:54:46 AM PDT by RobRoy (The US today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: DBCJR

I used to post politico stuff yet found them zealots for the left. No balance, no reason. They are cheerleaders for Obama. Will they know admit that US voters had a legitimate interest in securing more info on the issue?


7 posted on 04/27/2011 7:56:12 AM PDT by SonsOfLibertyII
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To: frogjerk

I agree I see no difference it is a new copy of the old form. Will Trump let this go?


8 posted on 04/27/2011 7:56:51 AM PDT by OldGoatCPO (Social engineers build bad bridges.)
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To: RobRoy

I’ve read that the oft repeated “spent millions” comment as originally reported in WND is not true. Do you have a verifiable source?


9 posted on 04/27/2011 7:57:42 AM PDT by The Truth Will Make You Free
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To: DBCJR

Of course Zero had to respond to Trump on the bc issue, because Trump was also pushing the issue of the Rezko land deal, his admittance to Columbia and Harvard and grades, and coming up would have been the SSN issue.

So Obama had to pre-empt The Donald and attempt to shut him down. Let’s see if Trump is satisfied with today’s release.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2711185/posts


10 posted on 04/27/2011 7:58:10 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: Pete
Exactly. It took 5 minutes. Why not do this 3 years ago?

Took that long to find the right paper, ink and forger.

11 posted on 04/27/2011 7:59:47 AM PDT by Tanniker Smith (I didn't know she was a liberal when I married her.)
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To: DBCJR
“We do not have time for this kind of silliness. I’ve got better stuff to do.”

So up until now, for nearly 3 years, you did have time for silliness, and you didn't have 'better stuff' to do?

12 posted on 04/27/2011 8:01:38 AM PDT by theDentist (fybo; qwerty ergo typo : i type, therefore i misspelll)
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To: Tanniker Smith

Exactly. It took 5 minutes. Why not do this 3 years ago?
Took that long to find the right paper, ink and forger.

................................................

Look at the document...it is superimposed on a different background that contains Onaka’s signature (hint: look at the curling on the left-hand margin of the text fields).


13 posted on 04/27/2011 8:02:26 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: DBCJR
Unfortunately, this will satisfy 99% of the public and all the simpletons in the media. They will proclaim the issue dead.

I'm not a document expert, but this smells very much like a fake. Maybe it is because 0bama has been a habitual liar from the start.

14 posted on 04/27/2011 8:02:28 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Psalm 109:8 Let his days be few and let another take his office. - Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
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To: DBCJR
No, he didn't.

He released the same old COLB.

If The Donald doesn't make an issue of this, it means the whole thing was a charade on his part, and he's really just a stalking-horse for The Won.

15 posted on 04/27/2011 8:02:41 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (When and why did Steve Dunham change his name to Barack Hussein Obama? When he converted to Islam?)
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To: DBCJR

Why did Hawaiian governor Abercrombie say there “was no birth certificate” just six weeks ago? Had they not finished photoshopping one then? There have been several versions of the COLB, but no original birth certificate with the signature of the attending physician.


16 posted on 04/27/2011 8:03:13 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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17 posted on 04/27/2011 8:03:43 AM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: DBCJR

On Youtube there is an episode of a 70’s TV game show where the answer to a question that today would be “gay” or “homosexual”. But in this show, the “normal and acceptable answer” was “queer”.

But this document reeks of modern modification because of a similar concept: In 1961, blacks were called negro, colored, darkie, and several other less accepted names, but they were NEVER called “African” as Urkel’s father was in this document. An American adult in 1961 would no more have called a negro “African” than they would have called a homosexual “gay”. That alone is enough to raise huge questions about this document.

An within a context of paying millions to hide it only to eventually produce a “completely harmless” document is what is causing so much speculation on the document’s authenticity. And the effort to hide it was made at a time when Urkel said he was going to be more open than any president.

The whole thing reeks. I realized six months ago that the well had been poisoned: That any document he released confirming what he has been claiming could not be trusted and would not be. The window of opportunity to come clean (even if this document is authentic) expired over a year ago. This will never be resolved.

We are reaching that point with the college transcripts. Life is not a John Grisham novel.


18 posted on 04/27/2011 8:05:09 AM PDT by RobRoy (The US today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I have a question. If you are legally adopted, do they go back and make changes to your birth certificate, particularly if there is a name change? If so, where are the changes for this COLB and why is there access to the “original”?


19 posted on 04/27/2011 8:06:24 AM PDT by cumbo78
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
The Key is the wording at the bottom.
Nordyke one says "true and CORRECT copy".
Obama one says "true copy or ABSTRACT".

Abstract in Merriam/Webster dictionary says:
1c - insufficiently factual
2 - expressing a quality apart from the original
4 - having only intrinsic form with little or no attempt at pictorial representation or narrative content.

20 posted on 04/27/2011 8:06:42 AM PDT by LivingNet
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To: DBCJR
Again, this is a Certificate of Live Birth. It is NOT a long form Birth Certificate. And I think it needs to be gone over with a fine-tooth comb by a qualified document examiner. I would be willing to bet my next paycheck that the document is not genuine, but a forgery.
21 posted on 04/27/2011 8:07:32 AM PDT by NWFLConservative (Game On.......Fight Like a Girl!!...............Saracuda in 2012)
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To: Pete

...it’s as though HE was the one to have to go through Mom’s belongings and hunt around for it... Right...

What better ‘stuff’ does he have to do anyway? Pick out a cool new phone system for the Oval office? THAT kind of ‘stuff’?

Hey Barry, while you’re ‘releasing’ stuff.. how about some SCHOOL records???


22 posted on 04/27/2011 8:07:35 AM PDT by J40000
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To: theDentist

“better stuff” -—> Golf, vacations, parties, fund raisers.


23 posted on 04/27/2011 8:08:58 AM PDT by Zman516 (muslims, marxists, communists ---> satan's useful idiot corps)
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To: The Truth Will Make You Free

>>I’ve read that the oft repeated “spent millions” comment as originally reported in WND is not true. Do you have a verifiable source?<<

At this point it is “tribal knowledge”.


24 posted on 04/27/2011 8:09:04 AM PDT by RobRoy (The US today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: DBCJR

This:

Answers 000 questions....

and....

Begs 1,000,000 more questions.......


25 posted on 04/27/2011 8:09:46 AM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: DBCJR
“We do not have time for this kind of silliness,” Obama told reporters. “I’ve got better stuff to do.”

Yeah. Those golf clubs aren't going to swing themselves, you know.

26 posted on 04/27/2011 8:10:01 AM PDT by Allegra (Hey! Stop looking at my tagline like that.)
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To: DBCJR

wrong headline- story is

president obama releases purported “long form” birth certificate, which in actuality is a nonlegal Certification of Live Birth, obtainable by relatives making statements to a clerk

All the clerk “certifies” is what the applicant tells him occurred, not what anybody officially witnessed or registered

That’s why Sun Yat-Sen had a Hawaii COLB


27 posted on 04/27/2011 8:10:45 AM PDT by silverleaf (All that is necessary for evil to succeed, is that good men do nothing)
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To: DBCJR

If this is the original; Obama is ineligible to be POTUS due to his father being born in a foreign country. He needs to step doiwn now.


28 posted on 04/27/2011 8:11:46 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: cumbo78
Being adopted does not retroactively change your birth certificate.

A legal name change is a court proceeding.

29 posted on 04/27/2011 8:12:14 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (When and why did Steve Dunham change his name to Barack Hussein Obama? When he converted to Islam?)
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To: NWFLConservative

You need to get up to speed. This is the long form certificate. Before there was the short form certification.


30 posted on 04/27/2011 8:16:20 AM PDT by ironman
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To: DBCJR
I thought one of (if not his main) reason for not releasing his LFBC was due to "embarrassing" information on it. I see nothing on this item that could be construed as "embarrassing" by any reasonable and prudent person.

This also does not explain away the years of stone-walling.

The only way for anyone to have any confidence in this issue at this point, is for an independant investigator, inspector general or similar investigation to resolve the issue (or not). Otherwise, Obama remains the asterisk-president.
31 posted on 04/27/2011 8:16:34 AM PDT by jaydee770
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To: DBCJR

IF it is real, which I doubt, that means he grew up as a citizen of THIS country and he hates it that much, yeah that makes him even better.


32 posted on 04/27/2011 8:17:19 AM PDT by longfellow (Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
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To: DBCJR

now we have ‘proof’ that is father was not an American citizen when 0bama was born.

please explain how someone can be a NATURAL BORN citizen if both parents are not citizens


33 posted on 04/27/2011 8:19:45 AM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: freekitty

Your father could be born in a foreign country. There is no problem with that most of the first Presidents were born here but their fathers were not. The constitution says that you need to be born here, not your father.


34 posted on 04/27/2011 8:19:50 AM PDT by poinq
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To: The Truth Will Make You Free

People who believe that the most likely scenario in 1962 was for an American woman to travel from Hawaii to Kenya and bear a child, and then somehow get a U.S. passport for that child and make it back to that little island with no one the wiser, will believe anything they want to.


35 posted on 04/27/2011 8:21:32 AM PDT by kenavi ("Anything that can't stand up to ribbing isn't worth much to begin with." Eric Idle)
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To: LivingNet

I agree. I noticed the wording too. Also, note in blocks 6b and 7b the capital O is elevated, yet it is not raised in blocks 1c or 8. If you look closely in block 1 there appears to be a “white line or aura” under the names, as if they were photoshopped off another document. That being said, the document seems to be in great shape for it’s age!


36 posted on 04/27/2011 8:24:10 AM PDT by John.Galt2012 (I'll take Liberty and you can keep the "Change"!)
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To: poinq

But, I thought the parent(s) had to be US citizens. Not necessarily born here, but citizens. It appears Obama’s father was not, unless he had become a US citizen at some point prior to Obama’s birth.


37 posted on 04/27/2011 8:27:54 AM PDT by ozaukeemom (Is it 2012 yet?)
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To: DBCJR
NEWCOLB
38 posted on 04/27/2011 8:28:44 AM PDT by FrankR (Liberals Don't Have Scruples, Judgement or Morals...only MOTIVES.)
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To: RobRoy
Hawaii's racial attitudes were different than those of the rest of the United States. For one thing, nonwhites have always been a majority in that state, a reason some Southern senators were reluctant to grant Hawaii statehood. "Colored" or "Negro" were the general terms used in the early 1960s to designate African-Americans. However, the native Hawaiians and other Polynesians are dark-skinned; they might have been counted as "Negro" in certain states under Jim Crow laws. What would be useful would be to see the birth certificates where one or both parents are African-Americans or sub-Saharan native Africans from Hawaii to determine if the term "African" was used to describe their race.

If this document is a forgery, odds are that it is a very good one. Remember what happened to Dan Rather when he reported evidently forged documents on the younger President Bush's military service. Obama has many ties to the Chicago "Outfit", whose ability to forge is far better than that loser in Abilene, Texas, upon whom Rather relied.

39 posted on 04/27/2011 8:30:36 AM PDT by Wallace T.
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To: frogjerk
David A. Sinclair, MD. He died in Honolulu in 2003.
40 posted on 04/27/2011 8:34:50 AM PDT by JPG ("Mr. President, GAME ON." - Sarah Palin)
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To: poinq
Article II, Section 1 No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty-five years, and been fourteen years a resident within the United States. The early Presidents met the second part of Art. II Sec. 1 being a citizen at time of adoption of the Constitution. Otherwise you need to be a natural born citizen which literature of the time meant that both parents had to be citizens.
41 posted on 04/27/2011 8:35:10 AM PDT by gunnut
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To: sten
Any child born in the united states regardless of the nationality of his/her parents is a citizen up and until he/she turns 18 and then or afterwords actively chooses to pledge allegiance to another country.

So that is my explanation of how someone can be a Natural Born citizen if both parents are not citizens.

42 posted on 04/27/2011 8:39:58 AM PDT by poinq
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To: sten
Any child born in the united states regardless of the nationality of his/her parents is a citizen up and until he/she turns 18 and then or afterwords actively chooses to pledge allegiance to another country.

So that is my explanation of how someone can be a Natural Born citizen if both parents are not citizens.

43 posted on 04/27/2011 8:40:09 AM PDT by poinq
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To: DBCJR

That is . . .

after all this time to fabricate . . .

what they are holding out as . . . the BC.


44 posted on 04/27/2011 8:43:14 AM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: kenavi
People who believe that the most likely scenario in 1962 was for an American woman to travel from Hawaii to Kenya and bear a child, and then somehow get a U.S. passport for that child and make it back to that little island with no one the wiser, will believe anything they want to.

I feel it is up to some of us that are not in the so-called "Birther" ranks to bring up the flaw in your statement.

Those that have asked for the Long Form Birth Certificate have done so for two reasons. First they believe that the Constitution's specific wording of "natural born citizen" precludes certain people that might other might otherwise be citizens not requiring naturalization and the full and actual birth records would answer how a son of a British Colonial subject meets that qualification. Secondly they have seen all sorts of false and misleading documents issued earlier. As it is obvious that large sums of money and great effort has been expended to not produce a simple document we all have been called for to produce in the course of our lifetime, the obvious question is, "what is trying to be hidden."

The Electoral College and the House actions regarding the election have obviously taken place. The various State officials certified the election results without commenting or qualifying. He was Inaugurated and sworn in by the Chief Justice. The Constitution gives only one format for removal from office so no civil or statute court action could save us from the actions of our country in making him President. Subtleties of native born citizen versus natural born citizen sound like so much Jim Crow "poll tax" issues to most of our countrymen. In the last fifty years we have entered an era where all the social standards for legitiment birth, parantage and norms of the prior era have been set aside in not only society, but law in many cases.

There are hundreds of marxists that could stand in his place or be elected next time and it is the policies that have to be defeated, not this scam artist alone. That being said, I am not going to dismiss the "Birthers" as carpers about his birth place alone -- there arguements are detailed, extensive and honest -- I just don't think they matter.

45 posted on 04/27/2011 8:43:42 AM PDT by KC Burke
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To: poinq

You are incorrect. Your father has to be a United States citizen.


46 posted on 04/27/2011 8:46:40 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: poinq

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2711249/posts


47 posted on 04/27/2011 8:48:07 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: poinq

You are describing a citizen. A naturalized citizen.

a natural born citizen is different. The reason the founders included the language was to insure the person occupying the top seat would have no other allegiances.

If your parents were citizens of another nation when you were born, they you could have split loyalties.

There is a significant and deliberate reason for choosing the wording as they did.


48 posted on 04/27/2011 8:51:21 AM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: DBCJR

Why does it say daddy was AFRICAN?? In 1961 ??????


49 posted on 04/27/2011 8:51:52 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: cumbo78

I believe adoptions are sealed.


50 posted on 04/27/2011 8:53:15 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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