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Birth Certificate anomaly
Andy from Beaverton

Posted on 04/29/2011 10:00:22 AM PDT by Andy from Beaverton

Taking in the experience of Buckhead, when I fist looked at the birth certificate, I decided to look at character spacing.

I'm not saying it's fake and I'm not saying it's real. When using a manual typewriter on legal paper, you avoided mistakes at all costs. What is totally confusing to me is the document was typed at two separate times. The complete document was typed up missing boxes 2, 3, 4, part of 5a, 6d, 7e and 7g. They reset the paper fractionally off on alignment and then filled out these missing boxes. Nothing that strange. But the year was filled out with the majority of the other imformation, then they came back and filled in the line up to the month and day.

What I would love to see if other birth certificates from this hospital. Was this done often?



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To: Brown Deer; TheCipher

Compared boxes 18b with 19b!!!


81 posted on 04/29/2011 1:51:11 PM PDT by danamco (-)
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To: danamco

What is interesting is, with exception of box 7d and 15 on, every typed line is exactly on the bottom on the box.


82 posted on 04/29/2011 1:51:32 PM PDT by Andy from Beaverton (I'm so anti-pc, I use a Mac)
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To: cincinnati65

The date is when it was accepted, not necessarily filed. It has been suggested that perhaps they stacked all the BC’s and filed them (assigned number and filed) on Friday. So forms from the 8th and 11th would have been stamped and filed on the same day. If that is the case, is it unreasonable to think that they could have been processed out of order?

If we could get a definitive answer for how the documents were processed, we might be able to determine if the numbering is really an issue, or simply a clerical sorting error. Even if we could, whats to say that process was always followed and was foolproof? There was a potential of near 350 births per week in Hawaii. His was out of order by 2.

I’m sure there was a general rule to number the forms in order of birth, but no system is perfect. And come on, we are talking about a government office here. I would bet that you could take all the births of any given week in HI around that time period and you would find numerous anomalies with regards to the number and birth order.


83 posted on 04/29/2011 1:53:54 PM PDT by Tatze (I reject your reality and substitute my own!)
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To: rolling_stone; LucyT

Look at entry #1 “Male”, and how the entries in the fields below line up. They all start, a half space to the right. In other words, 0bama’s sex was not entered on the birth certificate at the same time as the other information.


84 posted on 04/29/2011 1:58:08 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: null and void; LucyT; melancholy; Natural Born 54; Seizethecarp; Fred Nerks
Here are some interesting snippets from the referenced blogs:

http://www.henrymakow.com/birth_certificate_pixels_dont.html

One little birth certificate glitch no one seems to have caught on about is the type set. The "ni" letters of the hospital name gives away another clue to this document fraud.

In the old days before modern computers there was truly mono-space type as this was all the typewriter could technically perform. The "n" key and "i" key were always equal distant. With the modern PC even spacing of not only words but letters came into being so that fully justified left and right margins were possible.

Most people probably don't understand the cut and paste of signature pixels you're showing but thought I'd pass along the reasoning.

The dark signature without supporting lighter pixels is an indication of editing. Editing away lighter pixels from a scanned signature may have been done to hide a different paper texture or coloration of the original document. In a scanned graphic image there should always be lighter pixels to complete a smooth image from light to darker areas of a graphic image.

http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=185202

There are others who have noted a number of other problems with the document presented. Among them are that there are no apparent tab stops used on the Obama "birth certificate." 1961 was the day of the typewriter, and nobody hand-centered things like that. Production typists used tab stops and if you look at other, known-authentic birth certificates from the time, you'll note that they're tab-aligned. Obama's is not. Remember Dan Rather and his little forgery? 20-something idiots in the White House IT department have never used an actual typewriter in their life. 40-something bloggers and their girlfriends (and "Batgirl" deserves recognition for the catch on this one) most certainly did during our school and college years, and we remember how they worked too. Nobody ever manually centered or manually-aligned production documents in a typewriter.

85 posted on 04/29/2011 1:59:01 PM PDT by Fractal Trader
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To: El Sordo
Buckhead doesn’t comment much these days.

And he’s too sane to be a Birther.

So true!!

86 posted on 04/29/2011 1:59:41 PM PDT by Tatze (I reject your reality and substitute my own!)
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To: danamco

compare 18b with Nordykes.


87 posted on 04/29/2011 2:01:02 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: arrogantsob

No it doesn’t.

It doesn’t have the embossed seal of the DOH of Hawaii and the date and signature that go with it.

Therefore it certifies nothing for or against Obama.

=8-)


88 posted on 04/29/2011 2:09:00 PM PDT by =8 mrrabbit 8=
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To: Fractal Trader
Production typists used tab stops and if you look at other, known-authentic birth certificates from the time, you'll note that they're tab-aligned.

You will notice the obvious difference between the Nordykes and 0bama's. Tabs have been used on the twins.

These should have been typed on the same day, by the same person. Yet they are completely inconsistent. For example, who types "Aug.", then "August"?

The "n" key and "i" key were always equal distant.

I see nothing wrong there.
89 posted on 04/29/2011 2:10:56 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Brown Deer; MeshugeMikey; Andy from Beaverton; LucyT; butterdezillion

No on the fake b.c., see my post # 78 and this:!!!

http://thedailypen.blogspot.com/2011/04/out-of-order-obamas-non-sequential.html


90 posted on 04/29/2011 2:11:55 PM PDT by danamco (-)
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To: Tatze

Why have you been so intent on defending 0bama’s BC?


91 posted on 04/29/2011 2:12:39 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Brown Deer
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Top is Nordyke. Middle is Obama's from the WH. Bottom is Obama's from AP.

* The loops of the 8 are more open on Obama's.
* The first dash is aiming towards the angle of the 7 on Nordyke, but towards txe left end of the upper bar of the 7.
* The upper bar of the 7 is more angled on Nordyke.
* The second dash appears to be touching the 6 on Obama, not on Nordyke.
* The loop of the 6 is more angled on Nordyke, a little more open on Obama.
* The 1 has a bit of a curve on Obama, straighter on Nordyke.

Many obvious differences, but very similar, which one would expect if filled out by the same office clerk.

92 posted on 04/29/2011 2:17:37 PM PDT by Tatze (I reject your reality and substitute my own!)
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To: Brown Deer

Because conspiracy crap like this hurts the conservative cause! I’d much prefer to defeat him with facts and truth.


93 posted on 04/29/2011 2:21:10 PM PDT by Tatze (I reject your reality and substitute my own!)
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To: Brown Deer

On all the documents that UKL Lee signed? How do you know they are fake?


94 posted on 04/29/2011 2:25:31 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Tatze

Yep, those dates were definitely all written in the same handwriting. Either a clerk or a nurse.


95 posted on 04/29/2011 2:29:26 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: null and void
Why was the last digit scanned with a lower resolution and contrast than the bulk of the document?

This document wasn't scanned. There are no optical scanning artifacts. The idiot who compiled the document made the mistake of dragging a "1" from another document with a different resolution and resized it to match the height of these numbers but did it with the size on the screen small enough that he wasn't able to see the mismatch.
96 posted on 04/29/2011 2:30:33 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: Tatze

Contrary to recent implications, new evidence supports that Barack Obama was not actually delivered in Kapi’olani hospital, as records suggest, but, rather, he was merely examined there by a private practitioner, David Sinclair, in the days following his birth, which triggered the validation of an administratively issued “Certificate of Live Birth” registration, not a hospital generated birth certificate representing an actual delivery.

http://thedailypen.blogspot.com/2011/04/out-of-order-obamas-non-sequential.html


97 posted on 04/29/2011 2:39:06 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: aruanan

Bingo.


98 posted on 04/29/2011 2:39:39 PM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 827 of our national holiday from reality. - What 3 AM phone call?)
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To: aruanan
This document wasn't scanned. There are no optical scanning artifacts. The idiot who compiled the document made the mistake of dragging a "1" from another document with a different resolution and resized it to match the height of these numbers but did it with the size on the screen small enough that he wasn't able to see the mismatch.

Well, if that were true than any image of the document floating around out there would have different resolutions. If the master forgery were done that poorly, than all copies would be that poor if not worse. But that is not what we see in the document scanned for the AP and released by the AP.

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99 posted on 04/29/2011 2:40:41 PM PDT by Tatze (I reject your reality and substitute my own!)
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To: Yaelle

Where are you finding so many of these documents signed by him?


100 posted on 04/29/2011 2:40:56 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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