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Unemployment among Black College Graduates
The Hilltop of Howard University / The Black College Wire ^ | May 7, 2011 | Hilltop Staff

Posted on 05/07/2011 7:40:22 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

As graduation season rapidly approaches, black college graduates may face a greater burden in the job market than their white counterparts. Black college graduates are twice as likely to be unemployed as white college graduates.

The recession has only worsened this problem. Unemployment among blacks is disproportionately higher than the rest of the population.

Reasons for this trend include black students are not adequately prepared for the job market. They may have the degrees, but they lack the connections or professional skills to be successful in the workplace.

Students may have the knowledge, but not the resume; or the resume, but not the knowledge. Also, since many current black college graduates are first-generation college students, they may not have the same professional networks within their families that white college graduates may have.

Even when black people have significant professional and networking opportunities, race can still play a role in their employability. The New York Times cited a study that said Caucasian, Asian and Latino managers hired a greater number of white job applicants and fewer black job applicants than black managers did.

Other concerns and signs of more covert, and possibly even unconscious, racism included the tendency to hire candidates with less "ethnic-sounding" names or candidates to whom they felt they were a better fit for the "cultural environment" of the workplace.

The presidency of Barack Obama was also cited as a possible challenge to the employment of black college graduates. Since many people feel that President Obama's election demonstrated the limitless possibilities for black people, black job applicants are more likely to be seen as playing the victim if they express their feelings about racism or cultural bias in the job application process.

In some ways, Obama's election also diminished the severity of the need for programs and opportunities targeted toward cultural diversity in the workplace. Therefore, attempts to level the playing field of opportunity have decreased, leaving many black college graduates to continue to combat discrimination with, what is often viewed as, an old argument and with less ammunition.

Regardless of the reasons for the disparity in employment rates, black college graduates must navigate the job market the way it is now. Lack of opportunity can only be countered by continuing to be proactive.

Pro-activity does not just mean training harder or longer to improve or increase skills and marketability or working consistently to build connections.

If there are no opportunities available, black college graduates must create their own because entrepreneurship is the only definitive solution to the problem of employability. The difficulties associated with working for others decrease if we take steps to work for ourselves.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Conspiracy; Education; Politics
KEYWORDS: blacks; college; economy; education; entrepreneurship; unemployment
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1 posted on 05/07/2011 7:40:26 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It’s bad for everyone. The gov’t doesn’t want to admit 20% unemployment for fear of shocking the stock market and consumers (with some good reasons).


2 posted on 05/07/2011 7:43:05 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“the tendency to hire candidates with less “ethnic-sounding” names”

I guess this means Tayshon and L’Queesha can’t find jobs, but William and Mary can.


3 posted on 05/07/2011 7:49:20 PM PDT by kalee (The offences we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we engrave in marble. J Huett 1658)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The Affirmative Action pedigree is not worth the paper it is printed on for one!
4 posted on 05/07/2011 7:51:12 PM PDT by Cheetahcat ( November 4 2008 ,A date which will live in Infamy.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’ll get flamed for this.....but have you seen video clips, news clips, etc. of today’s so-called ‘college grads’ of so-called ‘black colleges’?

I’ve heard better command of the English language in grammar schools. It’s worse than pathetic. They bought into the hip-hop culture, can’t drive it out of themselves in four years of ‘racial studies’ and nonsense degrees....then wonder why they can’t get jobs.

Gee golly. Can’t imagine why this is.....thinking......thinking....


5 posted on 05/07/2011 7:51:29 PM PDT by RightOnline
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To: F15Eagle

Black youth unemployment is around 50%, IIRC.


6 posted on 05/07/2011 7:51:38 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Work hard and become a leader; be lazy and never succeed. (Proverbs 12:24))
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To: RightOnline

The article above is a mild example of that, as well.


7 posted on 05/07/2011 7:54:07 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Work hard and become a leader; be lazy and never succeed. (Proverbs 12:24))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
It's even worse if you have this major.



8 posted on 05/07/2011 7:55:20 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Most blacks probably receive a public school education.

Ergo, tbe education they receive at public schools is ludicrous.

Moreover, that is why many blacks drop out, turn to gangs, booze, drugs and crime.

It also makes them dumber than dirt and that is why the prisons are overflowing with minorities.

Politically incorrect. You bet your !@#$%^&*! ass.


9 posted on 05/07/2011 7:55:47 PM PDT by scorchedearther
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If a HLS grad such a Ubama does a piss poor job, what is one to expect of Texas Southern(horrible school) grad?


10 posted on 05/07/2011 7:56:58 PM PDT by razorback-bert (Some days it's not worth chewing through the straps.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Bologney!

The kids having trouble getting jobs
are white hetero males. Jobs go first
to offshore Indians, minorities, women
and gays.

That’s the facts jack!


11 posted on 05/07/2011 7:57:00 PM PDT by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They have hope and change in office and will vote 95-97% for him again in 2012. Can’t fix stupid....


12 posted on 05/07/2011 7:57:15 PM PDT by OregonTide
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The market for Black Studies majors has apparently dried up, along with the rest of the job market.
13 posted on 05/07/2011 7:57:30 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I would have to see more figures to comment intelligently. The expectations of blacks might be a problem, there might be too high of an expectation of having obtained a college degree that they should start higher up in the organization and that doors will automatically open for them. This is a problem for many college students not just those with some African ancestry. Colleges crank out graduates at a good pace for jobs that don't exist while charging vast amounts to obtain the degrees.
14 posted on 05/07/2011 7:59:36 PM PDT by dog breath
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yea I’m sure employers are lining up to hire Black Studies majors just so they can walk right into potential lawsuits.


15 posted on 05/07/2011 8:00:17 PM PDT by byteback
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To: SkyPilot

“Black Studies”?!
Talk about a B.S. in B.S. degree.


16 posted on 05/07/2011 8:02:17 PM PDT by dadgum (Overjoyed to be a Pariah)
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To: Cheetahcat

No, it got one into the presidency. The American people support affirmative action and have for years or they wouldn’t nominate or elect the people they do.


17 posted on 05/07/2011 8:07:26 PM PDT by Theodore R. (John Boehner just surrendered the only weapon with which he had to fight. What does OH see in him?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Would it be racist to mention the 800-pound gorilla in the room?


18 posted on 05/07/2011 8:08:23 PM PDT by Onelifetogive (I tweet, too...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The other issue is that they may also be heading away from fields of study where they can actually learn something, i.e. engineering or sciences. This can also be seen the implied fallacy where the article treats all degrees and colleges as equivalent and all actually meaning something.
As is being brought out on Instapundit frequently, the higher education bubble to a large degree is the result of the dumbing down of education in general, so that a college degree now is in too many cases, what a high school diploma was a mere 5 decades ago.

I was one of the only Americans in my computer science master’s (ok, it wasnt that good of a program, but it was ok) in NYC. I saw only 1 black guy there my entire time. Other than that it was Russians, Chinese, Indians, and Koreans. If the college that produced this article really wants to help its students and target groups, it would reduce the fluff degrees and start building a viable technical program.


19 posted on 05/07/2011 8:10:14 PM PDT by flushing_kenny (One by one, I will stop the motors of the world)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The fruits of affirmative action. Employers know that the records of Affirmative Action students are inflated relative to others with similar records.

they may not have the same professional networks within their families that white college graduates may have.

Gimme a break - you build your professional network AFTER you start working. You never hear other 1st generation grads making this whiny complaint.

black job applicants are more likely to be seen as playing the victim if they express their feelings about racism or cultural bias in the job application process.

There's NO WAY IN HELL I would EVER hire someone who complained about racism in the hiring process. You would be hiring a ticking time bomb of a future discrimination lawsuit.

attempts to level the playing field of opportunity have decreased

Right, level the playing field by giving you special treatment and further devauluating the perception of your record.

black college graduates must create their own because entrepreneurship is the only definitive solution to the problem of employability

Oh don't do that, you might get off the plantation and start voting Republican.

20 posted on 05/07/2011 8:11:38 PM PDT by jtal (Runnin' a World in Need with White Folks' Greed - since 1492)
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To: RightOnline
Sadly, I agree. I got to know one of my black students quite well (a senior) and one day he said something like: “...and I went whiff him to the store.” We talked about words like “whiff” vs “with”, “axed” vs “asked”, and so on. I just told him flat out that either he spoke “real” English or he was destined for a second-rate job. He said is was a cultural thing. I said fine, but just know that your culture is going to cost you a good job unless that culture gets turned around and you start speaking the king's English. He actually did clean up his language a lot.

Even Bill Cosby's addressed this topic. He also said enough of the stupid names for black kids. One black mother threatened to sue her daughter's school because they didn't pronounce her name correctly. The name was La-sha. The mother said: "Any fool knows the name is pronounced La Dash Ahh. The dash ain't silent!"

Who knew?

21 posted on 05/07/2011 8:12:47 PM PDT by econjack (Some people are as dumb as soup.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Add to the fact that many of these graduates never got their feet wet or hands dirty working at a real job. They never worked during the summers, for example. They come out with a sense of entitlement and thinking that having a degree will magically get them a job.

Plus a lot of these degrees are completely meaningless. I seriously believe now that higher education is a complete waste of time and money. If one would have to go to college, they should choose a technical or specialized college instead of a state-run university.

22 posted on 05/07/2011 8:12:47 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Governor Sarah Heath Palin for President of the United States in 2012)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

How are the engineering programs at these colleges?


23 posted on 05/07/2011 8:14:23 PM PDT by mas cerveza por favor
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To: dog breath

Most of the people I know who have real money are in some variant of sales and/or business ownership. A degree has little to with it.


24 posted on 05/07/2011 8:15:42 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Work hard and become a leader; be lazy and never succeed. (Proverbs 12:24))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
If there are no opportunities available, black college graduates must create their own because entrepreneurship is the only definitive solution to the problem of employability. The difficulties associated with working for others decrease if we take steps to work for ourselves.


Booker T said this over a century ago but the progressives worked really hard to shut the message down...

25 posted on 05/07/2011 8:16:22 PM PDT by Nat Turner (I can see NOVEMBER 2012 from my house....)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I can say first-hand, there are numerous "networking opportunities" for blacks in many Fortune 500-type companies. In one in which I work, many internships only seek minority representation. As interns, they are given ample opportunties to work on high-profile projects, with senior management. There are various social activities held during and after work. If the intern shows the least bit promise, they will receive and offer of employment at the end of their internship.

Once in the company as a FT employee, there are minority councils, minority activity groups, and senior executives are required to actively "sponsor" and work with these groups.

During promotion periods, company policy demands that minorities be given additional consideration. While I can't confirm that a quota exists for promotions, raises, and advancements into management, I know that metrics are kept. (Some of this is for legal reasons.) Regardless, if a black person is remotely competent, and shows an interest, they will be promoted, many into management.

So no opportunities? No networks? I don't buy it.

26 posted on 05/07/2011 8:19:52 PM PDT by Lou L (The Senate without a fillibuster is just a 100-member version of the House.)
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To: mas cerveza por favor

Nice kill shot.


27 posted on 05/07/2011 8:22:49 PM PDT by quantim (Victory is not relative, it is absolute.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Let the kids have “Black Studies” as a minor but give them the knowledge and skill to earn that job after graduation.


28 posted on 05/07/2011 8:23:25 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Time to raise Cain.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

There’s a variety of reasons (or excuses) but let’s not discount the street “culture” and peer pressure. The principal of my kids’ school talked about how she was taunted, accused of “acting white,” while growing up. When she arrive at our school, several of the janitorial staff had been her taunting contemporaries.


29 posted on 05/07/2011 8:23:30 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: RightOnline

Great article by a black liberal journalist who experienced an epiphany when he taught at Stillman for a couple years:

http://www.sptimes.com/2007/05/20/Opinion/A_dream_lay_dying.shtml


30 posted on 05/07/2011 8:23:51 PM PDT by dawn53
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To: mas cerveza por favor

Howard University offers 102 majors in 25 areas of study

Architecture (1 majors)
Architecture (BArch, BA/BS, MArch, MA/MS, PhD) View 7 additional Architecture majors that are available at other schools
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31 posted on 05/07/2011 8:23:51 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Work hard and become a leader; be lazy and never succeed. (Proverbs 12:24))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
and with all those jobs requiring a degree in Black Studies out there too...

who'd a thought???

32 posted on 05/07/2011 8:25:00 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Yes we have several excellent black salesmen, they understand how money is earned, how profit margins effect their pay and oddly they become more conservative as time goes on. None of them have a degree but all earn good money.
33 posted on 05/07/2011 8:25:19 PM PDT by dog breath
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To: kalee

Back in 2006 when my contract was being negotiated, I spent 4 months at a temp agency right after university. It was a call center for a law firm and 80% were blacks. The lone Mexican guy and girl became my buddies because we were ‘surrounded’. Just like any race, I learned 2 kinds of black people. The “non ghetto” blacks are awesome to get along with. The GHETTO homeys? They are the worst. Even the mexicans, Asian employees could not get along with them.


34 posted on 05/07/2011 8:28:12 PM PDT by max americana (FUBO)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The job market is tough for ALL Americans right now, for graduates and non-graduates. With all due respect, I’m so tired of the whining and victimization stuff. All of these graduates sat in the same class every other graduate sat in. And the bar has been lowered by affirmative action enough already! The bar has been lowered so far on our police and first responders that we’re hiring illiterate thugs and then wondering why there are so many LE mistakes being made.


35 posted on 05/07/2011 8:32:26 PM PDT by RowdyFFC
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’d wager that if you look at black graduates with degrees in real disciplines like, business, science or engineering, their employment rates are on par with the rest of the population. Minorities who can’t find employment often majored in ethnic studies where there is only room for a few Ward Churchills and Lamont Hills to make their mark.


36 posted on 05/07/2011 8:32:26 PM PDT by Baynative (Truth is treason in an empire of lies)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

As affirmative action decreases, the employability of the black American should slowly and steadily improve.

Affirmative action has made basically the entire adult population assume that a black person in any job is only there because he’s black, not because he’s the best person for the job.

It is a lousy insult to competent black Americans and only the elimination of affirmative action will begin the process of black people being looked upon as TRULY of equal worth as whites.


37 posted on 05/07/2011 8:33:16 PM PDT by Persevero (We don't need Superman -- we have the Special Forces)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“They may have the degrees, but they lack the connections or professional skills to be successful in the workplace. “

I call BS. When I graduated college in the early 1970s, our class was told flat out that white males were “overrepresented” in the local job market, and that the minority females (even with D averages) were the ones to be hired.

And here we are, 35 years after this massive affirmative action push, and we now have this attitude that jobs are rewards to be handed out, not careers to be earned and maintained.

That’s why I’ve been self employed pretty much ever since.


38 posted on 05/07/2011 8:38:58 PM PDT by Tigerized
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Other concerns and signs of more covert, and possibly even unconscious, racism...”

Just a question...has anyone ever done a study to estimate what percentage of Diversity Officers are Caucasian? Asian? Hispanic? The results would be interesting.


39 posted on 05/07/2011 8:43:14 PM PDT by Rembrandt (.. AND the donkey you rode in on.)
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To: Cheetahcat

“The Affirmative Action pedigree is not worth the paper it is printed on for one!”

And that’s the real problem with black unemployment among black college graduates. No one can tell anymore if a black candidate’s credentials are meaningful. Is the black candidate with a college degree someone who did well in college and deserves their degree or were they simply handed a degree because they are black?

Affirmative action has cheapened the value of credentialed black folks and works a tremendous hardship on those blacks who earned their college degrees the good ol’ fashioned way, burning the midnight oil and working their asses off, because black folks with any sort of credentials are now automatically suspect as possibly not having earned their credentials.


40 posted on 05/07/2011 8:45:50 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Made from the right stuff! "Anybody but Obama in 2012!")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Less govt jobs.


41 posted on 05/07/2011 8:56:43 PM PDT by Travis McGee (Navy SEALs: They'll shoot your eyes out.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
black college graduates must create their own because entrepreneurship is the only definitive solution to the problem of employability

Segregationist!

I lived in segregated communities. Blacks couldn't shop here and there so guess what? They had businesses, schools, professionals, families, . . . . the works. It was not perfect obviously but it was better than many conditions that exist today.

These liberals say that black entrepreneurship is a solution but do they really mean entrepreneurship? or are they feeeeeeeeeeling that some government program is needed to fake success?

Another indicator of their BS is why do they (and they will) reject Mr. Cain, et al and denounce them as traitors to their race?

42 posted on 05/07/2011 9:00:27 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"As graduation season rapidly approaches, black college graduate"s [men] "may face a" [much] "greater burden in the job market than their" white [female] "counterparts." White men will face the same kind of burden. American women will also face a much greater burden in the job market than foreign employees.


43 posted on 05/07/2011 9:02:30 PM PDT by familyop ("Wanna cigarette? You're never too young to start." --Deacon, "Waterworld")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Blacks get preferential treatment starting with their "scholarships," which are actually paid for by overcharging non-blacks, most of whom bury themselves in student loans as a result.

Half the blacks who "graduate" from college can't read at a sixth-grade level. The only reason they do "graduate" is because of the soft racism of lowered expectations.

How valuable is any employee who can only read at a sixth-grade level?

44 posted on 05/07/2011 9:05:18 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Under Islam, there is no separation of church and state. The church IS the state.)
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To: Tigerized
"And here we are, 35 years after this massive affirmative action push, and we now have this attitude that jobs are rewards to be handed out, not careers to be earned and maintained."


The following are Fortune 500s that filed briefs in favor of "affirmative action" in the Michigan "Grutter v. Bollinger" (Michigan University) case.

http://www.umich.edu/~urel/admissions/legal/gru_amicus/32_internatl.pdf

3M
Abbott Laboratories
American Airlines
Ashland
Bank One
Boeing
Coca-Cola
Dow Chemical
E.I. Du Pont De Nemours
Eastman Kodak
Eli Lilly
Ernst & Young
Exelon
Fannie Mae
General Dynamics
General Mills
Intel
Johnson & Johnson
Kellogg
KPMG
Lucent Technologies
Microsoft
Mitsubishi
Nationwide Mutual Insurance
Nationwide Financial
Pfizer
PPG
Proctor & Gamble
Sara Lee
Steelcase
Texaco
TRW
United Airlines
General Motors Corporation

http://www.umich.edu/~urel/admissions/legal/gru_amicus/gru_gm.html



How Dramatically Did Women's Suffrage Change the Size and Scope of Government?

JOHN R. LOTT Jr.
American Enterprise Institute (AEI) (download links for whole document at bottom of page)

September 1998

University of Chicago Law School, John M. Olin Law & Economics Working Paper No. 60
Journal of Political Economy, Vol. 107, Number 6, Part 1, pp. 1163-1198, December 1999

Abstract:
This paper examines the growth of government during this century as a result of giving women the right to vote. Using cross-sectional time-series data for 1870 to 1940, we examine state government expenditures and revenue as well as voting by U.S. House and Senate state delegations and the passage of a wide range of different state laws. Suffrage coincided with immediate increases in state government expenditures and revenue and more liberal voting patterns for federal representatives, and these effects continued growing over time as more women took advantage of the franchise. Contrary to many recent suggestions, the gender gap is not something that has arisen since the 1970s, and it helps explain why American government started growing when it did.


45 posted on 05/07/2011 9:06:06 PM PDT by familyop ("Wanna cigarette? You're never too young to start." --Deacon, "Waterworld")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The uproar from various special interest groups will be far more noticeable after the bond collapse and interest rate hikes in our near future. That’s when employees will fall like rain from government, then service jobs.

Enjoy the slide.


46 posted on 05/07/2011 9:09:57 PM PDT by familyop ("Don't worry, they'll row for a month before they figure out I'm fakin' it." --Deacon, "Waterworld")
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To: Baynative
I’d wager that if you look at black graduates with degrees in real disciplines like, business, science or engineering, their employment rates are on par with the rest of the population. Minorities who can’t find employment often majored in ethnic studies where there is only room for a few Ward Churchills and Lamont Hills to make their mark.

Also throw out graduates of "traditional black colleges" and I'll further wager that black graduates of mainstream colleges with the degrees you mention have probably even higher employment rates than the norm. A big chunk of corporate America is quite concerned with being "diverse," and therefore are willing to go after qualified mainstream black graduates with a vengeance.

47 posted on 05/07/2011 9:29:57 PM PDT by MCH
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I have 136 students in my engineering course this semester. I have 1 black student - the first one I’ve had in 4 years.


48 posted on 05/07/2011 9:31:41 PM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Wouldn’t there need to be an equal amount of black an white graduates before such an assumption could be made ?


49 posted on 05/07/2011 9:46:58 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: scorchedearther

I took my 8th grade science class in summer school. The class was
all white except for one black male. He didn’t try very hard. When his
test scores were returned with 60% or less points earned, he started
yammering about “racial prejudice”. I saw a replay some years later
as a Kenyan student in my UCSD chemistry lab changed an
answer on a graded test and tried to get more points out of the lab
TA. Cheating. He was expelled. A WTF moment.


50 posted on 05/07/2011 10:02:45 PM PDT by Myrddin
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