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Why is Obama's name different on passport? Doesn't match birth records released
WND ^ | June 2, 2011 | Jerome Corsi

Posted on 06/05/2011 5:26:11 PM PDT by opentalk

In this era of tight airport security, the Transportation Safety Administration typically will not allow a passenger to board an airplane if the name printed on the ticket differs from the way it appears on government-issued identification.

Now that the White House has released President Obama's purported long-form birth certificate, a question arises as to why the name on that document does not match the name on his State Department passport.

This matched how his name was listed on the short-form Certification of Live Birth released during the 2008 presidential campaign, as first presented by DailyKos.com June 12, 2008:

Below is a close-up screen-capture of Obama's passport taken from the White House website:

Note that Obama’s name on his passport is listed as "Barack Hussein Obama," without the "II" the Hawaii documents list to indicate Obama was named after his father.

As seen below, U.S. State Department passport regulations require first-time applicants to submit an embossed birth certificate, complete with registrar's stamp, that lists the applicant's full name.

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


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1 posted on 06/05/2011 5:26:15 PM PDT by opentalk
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To: opentalk

The irony is, the missing numerals II actually look like the metaphorical straws Corsi is grasping at.


2 posted on 06/05/2011 5:28:02 PM PDT by Flightdeck (If you hear me yell "Eject, Eject, Eject!" the last two will be echos...)
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To: opentalk
We know he isn't a natural born Citizen.

Let it go. he wants this talk not Jobs and the economy.

3 posted on 06/05/2011 5:28:25 PM PDT by scooby321
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To: opentalk

full title: Why is Obama’s name different on passport?
Doesn’t match birth records released with president’s authority


4 posted on 06/05/2011 5:29:07 PM PDT by opentalk
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

The list, ping

Let me know if you would like to be on or off the ping list

http://www.nachumlist.com/


5 posted on 06/05/2011 5:29:40 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: opentalk

All the Jihadist have a Jihad name!


6 posted on 06/05/2011 5:30:13 PM PDT by occamrzr06
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To: opentalk

It makes no sense that he uses the II instead of the Jr.

Perhaps his mother thought the II sounded more prestigious - but it’s wrong.

The II is used when a child is named after someone who is NOT the father. For example, a child is named after a grandfather but not the father. Then the II would be appropriate. If the child has the same name as the father then Jr. is used.

This guy is so ignorant. No wonder he cannot spell Syracuse and can’t pronounce the word corps. He’s ignorant and he’s a vulgarian.


7 posted on 06/05/2011 5:32:07 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: ladyjane

I know plenty of guys named after their dad ( including my cousin) who were named “II” instead of Jr.


8 posted on 06/05/2011 5:35:28 PM PDT by RockinRight (Who is "Generic Republican" and why does he poll so much better against Obama than anyone else?)
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To: RockinRight

Apparently they never owned an etiquette book.


9 posted on 06/05/2011 5:37:11 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: RockinRight

Apparently they never owned an etiquette book.


10 posted on 06/05/2011 5:37:11 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: ladyjane

It’s not a Roman numeral for 2. It’s two I’s, standing for Islamic Impostor.


11 posted on 06/05/2011 5:38:10 PM PDT by hellbender
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To: ladyjane

It’s not a Roman numeral for 2. It’s two I’s, standing for Islamic Impostor.


12 posted on 06/05/2011 5:38:10 PM PDT by hellbender
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To: opentalk
Good lord there has been 2 of them on this earth?

God works in strange ways....

13 posted on 06/05/2011 5:38:29 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: opentalk

IBTZ

The ID name has to agree with the name on the ticket. o’bama doesn’t fly on a ticket.


14 posted on 06/05/2011 5:39:17 PM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: ladyjane

LOL LOL

I’ll respond twice and hope we don’t get another double post!


15 posted on 06/05/2011 5:40:21 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: visually_augmented

Ping!


16 posted on 06/05/2011 5:42:17 PM PDT by Calm_Cool_and_Elected ("The truth does not change according to our ability to stomach it." --Flannery O'Connor)
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To: opentalk

I don’t know how much you can make of this. Compared with most of the other problems, this seems relatively minor.

I had a six-year-old friend when I was a boy whose name was proudly given as xxx xxx xxx III.

On the other hand, I had a cousin whose name was xxx xxx Jr. His father had the same name, and so did his father’s father. But he explained that he didn’t use III because his grandfather was dead, which advanced his father to plain xxx xxx and himself to xxx xxx Jr.

My cousin gave his oldest son the same name, and they followed the same custom. It’s a bit confusing, since some of the people I knew are now dead—my cousin and my cousin’s father. But they thought it would look kind of King-of-England snobby to start calling themselves xxx xxx V.

Obama has dropped the II in recent years. No reason why he could not have asked that it be dropped on his passport.

Obviously this is all speculative, but I don’t see the absence of II as being especially sinister—especially considering all of the other problems, including the obvious fact that both of the COLBs posted on-line are forgeries.


17 posted on 06/05/2011 5:44:39 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Calm_Cool_and_Elected

It’s a tribute to another of history’s fascist dictators

Il Duce


18 posted on 06/05/2011 5:45:07 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: Flightdeck
The irony is, the missing numerals II actually look like the metaphorical straws Corsi is grasping at.

Really? I never use my middle name. I never like it. No middle initial either. Except on Federal documents. My Passport and my Pilot's License (and my draft card too, I think) all have my full name as it appears on my birth certificate. And my Social Security Card has my middle initial.

My guess is that everyone with a normal (i.e. not diplomatic or military) Passport has one with their full legal name as demonstrated by the documentation given to the passport agency at the time of application.

But the Obama Passport isn't a normal passport. It's a diplomatic Passport, and as such he probably didn't have to provide any documentation to obtain it. My suspicion is that Barack Hussein Obama, Mmmm, Mmmm, Mmmm. has never had his own regular US Passport.

ML/NJ

19 posted on 06/05/2011 5:55:09 PM PDT by ml/nj
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To: Flightdeck

You wouldn’t put “II”. You would put “Jr”.


20 posted on 06/05/2011 5:56:02 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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To: Cicero
Another anomaly on top of more anomalies, the whole thing starts to smell.

We just renewed our passports. They mailed original birth certificates along with the passport application. The name is identical to birth records. There is a II on one of the BC, same with the passport.

More anomalies from wnd article

Vogt's forensic examination of the birth certificate number on the White House-released long form concluded that the last "1" in the number "10641," as seen in the figure below, is a grayscale image, while the remaining numbers are not. This is, he says, "irrefutable proof that the certificate number is a composite of two numbers and hence a forgery."

... In Boxes 20 and 22 on the Obama long-form birth certificate, the stamps recording the date the local registrar and registrar general accepted the birth certificate have two different colors on both lines where there should be no color at all. Also, the color differences are evident in Box 22, both in the printed text of the box and in the stamp recording the date that the local registrar accepted the birth certificate, Vogt says, as seen below:


21 posted on 06/05/2011 5:57:20 PM PDT by opentalk
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To: ml/nj

I think you summed it up.


22 posted on 06/05/2011 5:59:25 PM PDT by opentalk
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To: opentalk

Assume the documents are accurate...

make them explain how a first generation American can be natural born if one of the parents was a foreign national at the time of his birth?

If this is legal, then anchor babies can be president

I am 100% certain this isn’t legal


24 posted on 06/05/2011 6:10:31 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: scooby321

I always thought that II usually denoted a Jr’s Jr and so on. (III, IV etc.)


25 posted on 06/05/2011 6:16:29 PM PDT by Know et al
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To: opentalk

If I am seeing this correctly, the birthdate is also different. Acoording to his birth certificate, he was born on Aug. 4. It appears to be Aug. 6th on the passport.

But I am visually impaired so cannot trust what I think I see.


26 posted on 06/05/2011 6:20:03 PM PDT by ruesrose (It's possible to be clueless without being blonde.)
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To: ruesrose
I see a 4 on the passport.(it is blurry) We really don't know for sure anything until the original validated records are released.
27 posted on 06/05/2011 6:25:23 PM PDT by opentalk
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To: ladyjane

He is ignorant on many things......however, I don’t believe he made the decision to name himself.


28 posted on 06/05/2011 6:53:47 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: napscoordinator

It would be unusual if he had made the decision.

Parents do strange things when they name their children.


29 posted on 06/05/2011 7:10:28 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: hellbender

What needs investigating is the Senate Judiciary Committee making SR 511 equal to the Constitution. Their work was used by the DNC to nominate Obama.


30 posted on 06/05/2011 7:29:26 PM PDT by charlie72
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To: ml/nj

So, your Social Security card doesn’t match your birth cerificate? Hmmm...I see...


31 posted on 06/05/2011 7:34:59 PM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: opentalk

Obviously, this Vogt has no clue. You can get the same thing yourself on a document if you try it.


32 posted on 06/05/2011 7:37:50 PM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: opentalk

State-run, Lame-Stream Media’s response:
“Move along folks, nothing more to see here” . . .

CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, NBC, response: “This is a NON-story - it never had, and never will have, legs as long as we are in control of the news. Give us something on Romney, Palin, Huckabee, Gingrich, etc., we will send a team of investigators to check out the story”.


33 posted on 06/05/2011 7:42:25 PM PDT by Mr. Wright
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To: opentalk

First of all if he was named for his father he should be Junior, not II.

In any event I think all those things, Jr., Sr. II, III are not part of your official name, I think you can use or lose them as you wish.


34 posted on 06/06/2011 1:57:13 AM PDT by jocon307
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To: Gondring
Obviously, this Vogt has no clue. You can get the same thing yourself on a document if you try it.

Or maybe you're the one without a clue?

Why don't you knock yourself out and produce a messed up document like Bamie BC II. You can use this:

if you like. These are the ID pages from my expired Passports reproduced to match the Bamie BC II file size. (Of course Obama has no expired Passports that anyone knows about, but I'm sure that's a sore subject with you.)

ML/NJ

35 posted on 06/06/2011 4:48:29 AM PDT by ml/nj
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To: opentalk

I remember this being brought up a year ago. It was a dumb argument then, and it’s a dumb argument now. Is Corsi really this desperate?


36 posted on 06/06/2011 5:26:08 AM PDT by Kleon
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To: ml/nj

Send me the originals and I’ll scan with OCR on and it will likely do that, the same way it did to the documents I tried when the birth cerificate was finally released.

I’m not claiming to be an expert; I’m just going by seeing the same thing when I tried it. My guess is that it’s a difference between OCR’d/non-OCR’d or those that are lighter getting grayscale/antialiasing versus those that get mono handling.


37 posted on 06/06/2011 6:15:11 AM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: Gondring
Send me the originals and I’ll scan with OCR

Yeah. I'm going to send you my Passports. What schmucks you Obama flacks are!

If you knew anything about this, you would know that when you bring my jpg (Right click on it, and choose "Save Picture As" to get the file onto your WH machine.) into Acrobat, that is when it you can do an OCR scan if you want.

Have at it Sherlock, or please stop posting as if you knew what you are talking about on these threads.

ML/NJ

38 posted on 06/06/2011 8:32:26 AM PDT by ml/nj
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To: Gondring

>Obviously, this Vogt has no clue. You can get the same thing yourself on a document if you try it.<

I suggest that you examine the long form by using adobe pro.

Just “extract images” from the long form obama released and you will see that the differences shown are because there are 3 pictures that made the one document.

This does not happen when you scan one image as it was alleged by Obama. It is one image .. period. There are no jpg’s to extract.

Obama’s long form is made of three different jpg’s that were crafted in adobe and merged to appear as one document.
It is a complete forgery and the evidence is easily seen.


39 posted on 06/06/2011 10:01:06 AM PDT by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: opentalk
More from WND link

Forged state registrar stamp?

Vogt concludes the state registrar's stamp certifying the Obama April 27 birth certificate is itself a forgery. He examined a legitimate stamp placed on a long-form birth certificate copy issued by the Hawaii DOH on March 15, 2011

As seen below, the registrar's stamp applied to Obama's April 27 birth certificate has an error in the word "THE" that reads instead "TXE." The error did not show up on the stamp used one month earlier.


40 posted on 06/06/2011 1:25:44 PM PDT by opentalk
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To: Munz
I suggest that you examine the long form by using adobe pro.

Please send me the link for the exact one you want me to examine, so there's no confusion.

41 posted on 06/06/2011 6:08:27 PM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: opentalk

LOL

So Dr. Onaka is allowing people to forge, rather than it being a glob of ink.

Wow, how much does the Obama campaign pay to keep this going?


42 posted on 06/06/2011 6:13:47 PM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: Gondring

the green one that obama put up on the white house web site .. the pdf file


43 posted on 06/06/2011 6:38:07 PM PDT by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: Munz

Using Adobe Acrobat 9 Pro, where is “extract images”? There’s Extract Pages and Export Images. What specifically are you asking?


44 posted on 06/06/2011 11:04:00 PM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: Gondring

advanced
document processing
export images


45 posted on 06/07/2011 7:29:40 AM PDT by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: ladyjane
What you're saying is interesting....So that would make Barak I as not being his fsther.

And of course, I've said right along that this was a birth of "how do you stay in the USA?"...Bet it was bought and paid for, too.

46 posted on 06/07/2011 7:34:36 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Gondring

do you have a reader or an editor of acrobat?

if you have an editor it is under
advanced> document processing> export all images

you can extract the three images that the pdf file was made from


47 posted on 06/07/2011 2:59:14 PM PDT by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: Munz
do you have a reader or an editor of acrobat? if you have an editor it is under advanced> document processing> export all images you can extract the three images that the pdf file was made from

Okay...I just scanned one of my professional licenses.

It yielded...

...8 jpgs.

I'm done with this whole idiocy.

48 posted on 06/07/2011 11:30:17 PM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: Gondring

I scanned mine as well and there are none


49 posted on 06/08/2011 3:00:06 PM PDT by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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