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Gun ownership, carrying a gun linked to heavy alcohol use
UC Davis Health Systems ^ | 6/14/2011 | UC Davis Health Systems

Posted on 06/20/2011 9:11:22 AM PDT by drypowder

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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I’ll bet they could draw a corelation between gun owners and racism, too, because all this time I’ve been blaming America’s gun violence on inner city yoots.

61 posted on 06/20/2011 10:35:18 AM PDT by gundog (Help us, Nairobi-Wan're our only hope.)
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Nor single motherhood with poverty.

Nor Socialist educations with low SAT scores.

Nor open borders with gang activity.

But the geniuses at UC Davis, with my tax money, do studies to tell ME that gun owners are more apt to be heavy drinkers?

Liberalism is a waste of money and a failure of the mind to mature.

62 posted on 06/20/2011 10:36:43 AM PDT by wac3rd (Somewhere in Hell, Ted Kennedy snickers....)
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To: COBOL2Java

Or that tenured taxpayer-funded professors at public universities should have a 5% 401K match vs. lifetime pensions and bennies...that would make him drop his copy of Das Kapital.

63 posted on 06/20/2011 10:38:28 AM PDT by wac3rd (Somewhere in Hell, Ted Kennedy snickers....)
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To: samtheman

15 years ago Ohio (one of the states in the study) DID NOT have concealed carry — so anyone (besides law enforcement) who transported a loaded gun in an automobile, for example, was doing so illegally. This only shows that people who break one law (e.g., driving while intoxicated) are more likely to break another, and has nothing to do with legal concealed carry.


64 posted on 06/20/2011 10:40:36 AM PDT by Zeko
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To: drypowder
What a crock. I have carried for more than 20 years in the civilian world and at times I have a drink or two. When I do I do not drive or carry a firearm. He indicates a belief that people who carry have no common since or self discipline. What a moron and a LIAR!!!!!!!!!!!
Before my civilian permit I carried a fully automatic weapon for Uncle Sam for 20+ years. There were more than a few drunken parties attended by most of our units personnel and no one ever shot anyone they weren't supposed to..
So you can see that reality shows very clearly that this moron is nothing more that a statistic manipulating liar. I know dozens of people who carry by permit and not one of them have ever been under the influence of alcohol when they have drawn a firearm. This kind of BS needs to be exposed and the authors displayed for the liars that they are.
65 posted on 06/20/2011 10:41:33 AM PDT by oldenuff2no (Rangers lead the way...... Delta, the original European home land security)
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To: Bidimus1

You have an ‘aresenal’. And not the kind typical media stories have- a .22 and box of ammo.

Stay bitter and clingy , FRiend!

66 posted on 06/20/2011 10:47:36 AM PDT by WOBBLY BOB ( "I don't want the majority if we don't stand for something"- Jim Demint)
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To: wac3rd

Garen J. Wintemute, M.D.
Clinical/Research Interests
Garen J. Wintemute is a national expert on gun violence and public attitudes about guns. He has served as a consultant for the National Institute of Justice; Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms; World Health Organization; Centers for Disease Control and Prevention; and American Red Cross. Wintemute has conducted and published findings from numerous studies regarding gun accessibility, connections between gun ownership and violence, and other related subjects. His research focuses on the nature of violence and development of effective violence prevention measures.
Title: Professor
Director of the Violence Prevention Research Program
Attending Physician-Emergency Department
Specialty: Emergency Medicine
Address: UC Davis Medical Center
2315 Stockton Blvd.
Sacramento, CA 95817

Phone: (916) 734-5010

Education: UC Davis School of Medicine
Sacramento, California
M.D. 1977

Yale University
New Haven, Connecticut
B.S. 1973

Board Certifications: American Board of Family Medicine, 1980

Select Recent Publications: Wintemute GJ, Cook PJ, Wright MA. Risk factors among handgun retailers for frequent and disproportionate sales of guns used in violent and firearm-related crimes. Injury Prevention, 11:357-363.

Wintemute GJ, Romero MP, Wright MA, Grassel KM. The life cycle of crime guns: A description based on guns recovered from young people in California. Annals of Emergency Medicine, 43:733-742.

Romero MP, Wintemute GJ, Wright MA, Parham CA. Shall issue policy and criminal activity among applicants for permits to carry concealed firearms. Injury Prevention, 9:367-9.

Wintemute GJ, Wright MA, Drake CM, Beaumont JJ. Subsequent criminal activity among violent misdemeanants who seek to purchase handguns: Risk factors and effectiveness of denying handgun purchase. Journal of the American Medical Association, 285:1019-1026.

Wintemute GJ, Parham CA, Beaumont JJ, Wright MA, Drake C. Mortality among recent purchasers of handguns. New England Journal of Medicine, 341:1583-1589.

67 posted on 06/20/2011 10:48:43 AM PDT by wac3rd (Somewhere in Hell, Ted Kennedy snickers....)
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"however, I conducted a study that shows all liberals are mentally deficient and cannot be trusted with reality."

Or with a gun for that matter, or sending those with guns into battle

68 posted on 06/20/2011 11:03:53 AM PDT by Clay+Iron_Times (Time to make a stand, Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: Zeko

It’s like I said earlier in this thread. This is a “study” of concealed weapon carry in the same way that scientists on-the-take from the IPCC “study global warming”.

69 posted on 06/20/2011 11:06:26 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: drypowder

Davis, Ca is Berkely, Ca writ small......

When Tom MacClintock held his town hall meeting prior to Obamacare, the meeting was attended by about 200 people sporting “Progressive Democrats of America” tee shirts. They had piled out of cars sporting Davis School District parking passes. ( Davis is NOT in Tom’s congressional district nor anywhere close to it)

When questioned about their organization I commented to a couple of “ladies” that any organization having “progressive” in it’s title was sure to be communist in it’s orientation. I was promtly assualted with fists/elbows.

People in Davis are rabidly extreme leftists......all of them!

Not surprized that they are against anyone excersizing their constitutional rights, and that they try to demoguoge
any that do.

70 posted on 06/20/2011 11:08:07 AM PDT by Forty-Niner (Palin/West 2012)
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To: COBOL2Java

71 posted on 06/20/2011 11:19:50 AM PDT by WOBBLY BOB ( "I don't want the majority if we don't stand for something"- Jim Demint)
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To: drypowder

Rooster Cogburn would give that princess a heart attack!

72 posted on 06/20/2011 11:24:41 AM PDT by The Toll
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To: drypowder

Bull cookies.

73 posted on 06/20/2011 11:27:52 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: drypowder

Wonder what that means about this gun-totting Texan who’s never drunk a drop of alcohol in his lifetime?

74 posted on 06/20/2011 11:59:07 AM PDT by LoneStarGI (Vegetarian: Old Indian word for "BAD HUNTER.")
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To: wku man
So from now on, I simply say "molon labe". Come get 'em, bitches. If you want mine, you'd damned sure better bring yours...and pack a lunch, too.

Might I suggest you suggest to them that they bring both a suitcase, and an ice chest, as it will take them far longer than they think...

the infowarrior

75 posted on 06/20/2011 12:01:01 PM PDT by infowarrior
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Nope a collection.. if I get something that is crew served or or indirect fire maybe then its an arsenal

76 posted on 06/20/2011 12:05:27 PM PDT by Bidimus1
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To: I cannot think of a name

I don’t know of any conservatives who have that tendency. Those who own weapons generally drink less than those who don’t and when they practice with their weapons, nearly always follow an adamant rule that “powder and alcohol don’t mix”.

Liberals I’ve known, on the other hand, who own firearms, think nothing wrong with drinking and carrying a weapon around.

77 posted on 06/20/2011 12:07:35 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: drypowder

This must be true. I engaged in the risky behavior of transporting my guns, and a case of beer, across a lake one day. Before reaching the other side, the boat somehow capsized, spilling it’s contents.

Well, I did manage to save the remaining beer. Sadly, all the guns were lost.

78 posted on 06/20/2011 12:18:57 PM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: drypowder

“Gun owners who carry concealed weapons or have confronted another person with a gun are more than twice as likely to drink heavily as people who do not own guns”

Odd bedmates don’t you think:a category including CCW and drunks who confront others with a gun.

It’s obvious that those who’ve confronted others with a gun are more likely to be heavy drinkers. Drunks do all kinds of dangerous things.

But why include CCW in that category? For one reason only: to tar their reputation with the statistical behavior of drunk gun-toters.

They’ve mixed a few apples with a bunch of eggs and then “proved” statistically how easily apples shatter when dropped.

I could do a study with nuns and male homosexuals in the same group and “prove” how nuns are much more likely to contract AIDS than the general population.

79 posted on 06/20/2011 12:22:32 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Made from the right stuff!)
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To: wac3rd

This is apparently a bad physician, who turned his anti-gun hobby into a full time position doing dildo research. Those people he might have been attending as a physician, can feel very fortunate. There is absolutely no evidence to indicate this individual has a lick of sense.

I’m not sure how long the comments would be if we started an analyses of those who were responsible through the years since his graduation for hiring him to work. i would guess “work” had nothing to do with producing anything that had a profit margin.

80 posted on 06/20/2011 12:39:25 PM PDT by wita
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