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A Fresh, NEW PAUL for President anyone?
http://www.TableOfWisdom.com ^ | Scott Ryan

Posted on 07/30/2011 2:26:39 PM PDT by publius321

Senator Rand Paul has done an outstanding job as a freshman US Senator. He has stood his ground; he has not waivered and in every interview I have thus far seen, he has done an OUTSTANDING job articulating his remonstrance of why he could not support –any- of the bills put forward in the House or Senate.

We have a few historical precedents in this nation of sons of previous Presidents succeeding their former Presidential fathers and many such examples in the House and Senate.

I think that Rand Paul has clearly demonstrated... (continued)

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Politics; Religion
KEYWORDS: campaignforliberty; libertarians; liebertarians; paul; president; rand; randpaul; ron; rupaul
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1 posted on 07/30/2011 2:26:47 PM PDT by publius321
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To: publius321

Rand Paul - Yes

Ron Paul - no.


2 posted on 07/30/2011 2:27:30 PM PDT by Perdogg (0bama got 0sama?? Really, was 0sama on the golf course?)
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To: publius321

He is very impressive and after watching him speak today, I am convinced that we need more like him in government.


3 posted on 07/30/2011 2:28:19 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Perdogg

No to both. Rand’s anti-Israel stance is like his father’s.


4 posted on 07/30/2011 2:30:09 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: EGPWS

rand paul 2020

palin 2013-2020


5 posted on 07/30/2011 2:30:09 PM PDT by preamble
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To: publius321
Anyone what this little smarmy turd from CNN interview Rand on CNN?

How Rand did not throw the mike down and walk away...I don't know. Unbelievable. Rude...lecturing. Condescending. Interrupting.

I want to scream.

6 posted on 07/30/2011 2:30:25 PM PDT by NELSON111
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To: publius321

President?
I don’t think so.

He’s faking a good game so far but in the end, he’s a geek studying to be a kook.


7 posted on 07/30/2011 2:32:05 PM PDT by humblegunner (The kinder, gentler version...)
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To: publius321

Rand Paul will throw Israel under the bus. NO THANKSS!


8 posted on 07/30/2011 2:35:20 PM PDT by chicagolady (Mexican Elite say: EXPORT Poverty Let the American Taxpayer foot the bill !)
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To: publius321

Rand Paul will throw Israel under the bus. NO THANKSS!


9 posted on 07/30/2011 2:35:24 PM PDT by chicagolady (Mexican Elite say: EXPORT Poverty Let the American Taxpayer foot the bill !)
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To: publius321

Rand Paul will throw Israel under the bus. NO THANKSS!


10 posted on 07/30/2011 2:35:31 PM PDT by chicagolady (Mexican Elite say: EXPORT Poverty Let the American Taxpayer foot the bill !)
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To: publius321

Rand Paul will throw Israel under the bus. NO THANKSS!


11 posted on 07/30/2011 2:35:31 PM PDT by chicagolady (Mexican Elite say: EXPORT Poverty Let the American Taxpayer foot the bill !)
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To: Olog-hai

Really, what did he say?


12 posted on 07/30/2011 2:36:34 PM PDT by Perdogg (0bama got 0sama?? Really, was 0sama on the golf course?)
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To: chicagolady

I had that concern about Ron Paul as well. If that would be the case, I agree with you as standing by Israel is a definite requiste, litmus test, for me as well.


13 posted on 07/30/2011 2:37:45 PM PDT by publius321
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To: publius321

I’m not here to proselytize for Rand Paul - and I agree his dad is a nut - but anyone who would like to learn more about Senator Rand Pauls views should take a few minutes an read his Budget Plan that can be found here:

http://www.campaignforliberty.com/blog.php?view=41227

I’m not sure I’d support everything he says, but I absolutely agree that this is how you get serious about cutting federal spending and getting back to a Constitutional role for the federal gov’t.

And for putting that on paper, Sen. Paul deserves our appreciation.


14 posted on 07/30/2011 2:38:19 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: Perdogg

Really, what did he say?
Similar stuff to his dad, to wit he "support(s) Israel" but wants to end "welfare" to them.
I’m not singling out Israel. I support Israel. I want to be known as a friend of Israel, but not with money you don’t have . . . We can’t just borrow from our kids’ future and give it to countries, even if they are our friends. … I think they’re an important ally, but I also think that their per capita income is greater than probably three-fourths of the rest of the world . . . Should we be giving free money or welfare to a wealthy nation? I don’t think so.
Very insulting to Israel. You can't cut off friends while enemies remain so virulent, and especially now that Israel's getting surrounded by enemies thanks to the "Arab Spring Winter".
15 posted on 07/30/2011 2:43:12 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

So what??

Whats wrong with supporting ourselves for a change?


16 posted on 07/30/2011 2:43:29 PM PDT by Soothesayer9
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To: publius321

Rand Paul is much more articulate than his father. Even bad speakers are more focused than Ron Paul is; he is both bad and terribly unfocused. Rand Paul, on the other hand, is a decent and focused speaker. I think this would make him an effective leader for Senate Republicans. He would be much more effective than McConnell, and make Reid look like an utter moron, which, albeit, isn’t exactly a hard feat. Either that, or he could be whip along with DeMint as leader. That team would be excellent, in my not so humble opinion.


17 posted on 07/30/2011 2:43:39 PM PDT by RecoveringPaulisto
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To: publius321

No to either one... duplicity is in the DNA.

Rand is a slicker version of Ron.

They both aim to dismantle our military.

Read the Libertarian Party platform to learn their aims.


18 posted on 07/30/2011 2:44:08 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (I said it, I meant it and I represent it.)
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To: bigbob

Thanks for posting that bigbob.


19 posted on 07/30/2011 2:45:34 PM PDT by publius321
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To: chicagolady

Are you more loyal to Israel or the United States of America?

I totally support Israel’s right to exist. Furthermore, if I were an Israeli, I would support bombing Iran’s nuclear facilities. I also support having a friendly relationship with Israel. However, it is not our job to provide for Israel’s defense. That is their job. If they want the protection of the United States, then they can apply for membership in the Union.


20 posted on 07/30/2011 2:46:16 PM PDT by RecoveringPaulisto
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To: publius321

I have been saying it since his Senate campaign, this is the RIGHT PAUL! All the small government goodies w/o all the, ya know....crazy.


21 posted on 07/30/2011 2:49:44 PM PDT by Grunthor (Faster than the speed of smell.)
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To: publius321
If a half Kenyan mulsim communist son of a whore can be POTUS, Rand Paul sure can.
22 posted on 07/30/2011 2:50:03 PM PDT by Rome2000 (OBAMA IS A COMMUNIST CRYPTO-MUSLIM)
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To: La Enchiladita

I do not think you understand. Ron Paul did not leave the Reagan Coalition until after Rand had come of political age. Ron Paul started out as a gold bug and anti-Communist. Then, he became friends with radical libertarians like Murray Rothbard in the 1980s. He has since left the reservation. Rand Paul, on the other hand, regularly makes comments that put him at odds with Ron Paul-types.


23 posted on 07/30/2011 2:51:43 PM PDT by RecoveringPaulisto
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To: Olog-hai

There is absolutely nothing wrong with the Rand Paul quote that you say is so damning. If you want to say that, then I think that you are attributing thoughts to the sentiments that simply are not there.

End ALL foreign aid NOW.


24 posted on 07/30/2011 2:52:32 PM PDT by Grunthor (Faster than the speed of smell.)
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To: RecoveringPaulisto

If you do not understand the importance of defending Israel, You will not understand.

Defending Israel IS Protecting America’s existance.
And if you don’t understand, you don’t understand.


25 posted on 07/30/2011 3:03:30 PM PDT by chicagolady (Mexican Elite say: EXPORT Poverty Let the American Taxpayer foot the bill !)
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To: chicagolady

Let me guess, God will get angry at us if we don’t do it? Tell me: Where exactly in the Bible does it talk about a state established in 1948? I mean, I’m a Bible major and I can’t find it. What am I missing?


26 posted on 07/30/2011 3:07:13 PM PDT by RecoveringPaulisto
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To: Olog-hai

Nothing insulting in that. As a supporter of Israel myself, I agree that there should be no monetary aid, least of all using money borrowed from our kids. The good news is that if we cut off all aid to both Israel and the Moslems, it is Israel that will win.


27 posted on 07/30/2011 3:24:55 PM PDT by JimWayne
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To: chicagolady

So you support raising the debt limit to pay for Israel’s defense?


28 posted on 07/30/2011 3:27:31 PM PDT by JimWayne
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To: publius321

Pushing freshmen senators/congressmen to run for the highest office in the land is how we got into the mess we’re in now!


29 posted on 07/30/2011 3:40:23 PM PDT by leapfrog0202 ("the American presidency is not supposed to be a journey of personal discovery" Sarah Palin)
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To: publius321

I have absolute respect for Rand Paul.


30 posted on 07/30/2011 3:58:30 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: RecoveringPaulisto

Let Me Guess,

You are a NEWBIE ( June 1, 2011) Who has not been ZOTTED yet, and you lie alot. You are a Bible major? LOL!!


31 posted on 07/30/2011 4:06:23 PM PDT by chicagolady (Mexican Elite say: EXPORT Poverty Let the American Taxpayer foot the bill !)
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To: publius321
Let's see Rand Paul get some difficult legislation through the Senate with his name on it first. He appears to be doing a great job in his first half year, but there are more skills he needs to demonstrate before he can be taken seriously as a president.

Our country is not capable of electing a president who lacks basic leadership skills -- right?

32 posted on 07/30/2011 4:22:06 PM PDT by mlocher (Is it time to cash in before I am taxed out?)
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To: chicagolady

I am a Bible major. I am not lying.

And, if you really want to know, I no longer support Ron mainly because I have come to believe he is not only wrong on foreign policy, and a myriad of other issues, but is delusional on the matter, including Israel.


33 posted on 07/30/2011 4:27:52 PM PDT by RecoveringPaulisto
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To: chicagolady

Also, the dispensational theory that I was raised on, and you seem to believe, originated, not in the early church, not in the Reformation, not in the evangelical movement, but in the 1830s from a man by the name of Darby. That’s not a lie. It’s a fact.


34 posted on 07/30/2011 4:30:38 PM PDT by RecoveringPaulisto
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To: RecoveringPaulisto
"I’m a Bible major"

More useless than being an Art History major. :-)

35 posted on 07/30/2011 4:32:12 PM PDT by verity (The Obama Administration is a Criminal Enterprise.)
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To: verity

Not when you intend on being a pastor.


36 posted on 07/30/2011 4:34:31 PM PDT by RecoveringPaulisto
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To: publius321

Has he pledged that millions of American boys will be required to die if necessary on behalf of a recently created country that sucks at the tit of our taxpyers?
If not ....
well he must be a bad person,


37 posted on 07/30/2011 4:45:03 PM PDT by nkycincinnatikid
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To: publius321

Rand Paul’s dad is a loon.


38 posted on 07/30/2011 5:50:47 PM PDT by Drango (NO-vember is payback for April 15th)
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To: publius321
Problem with either Paul is the Libertarian base or the Paul's base is going to hold them to stances that nearly all conservatives, republicans and independents oppose on social and foreign policy issues. If you believe like them on foreign policy then you think the USA is imperialistic or at least imposes its will on other countries. I do agree like Michael Savage that the US under Obama is a mess on foreign policy, but even Savage acknowledges that there is Islamic Extremism. Ron Paul would allow Sharia. Ron Paul also hanged out with truthers as his base is made of not only 9-11 skeptics but even some anti-Israel and anti-Semite folks. Just listen to Rick Adams on Republic Broadcasting Network or Mike Rivero of Rense Radio Network or any site that is pro-Ron Paul. They are against all Jews. Blame the Norway attacks on Jews and Israel. They Implicate 9-11 on Jews.

Rand Paul: End foreign aid, including Israel

Ron Paul Would Open America’s Doors to Sharia

Ron Paul Is A Vicious Anti-Semite and Conservatives Need To Wash Their Hands of Him

Ron Paul to Obama: Stop Dictating to Israel

CPAC Civil War: Ron Paul Supporters Scream “War Criminal” At Dick Cheney

Ron Paul, Hookers, and Heroin (Is being free to do drugs the essence of American liberty?)

Why I don’t like Ron Paul

Ron Paul: The Left and the Right Demagogue Mosque, Islam

Ron Paul wouldn't have approved Osama bin Laden operation

Ron Paul's anti-Constitution vote - ALAN KEYES

Ron Paul - Nuttier Than Squirrel Poop?

YAF kicks out Ron Paul

Who is Ron Paul?

Ron Paul Sinks Own Ship - Immigration

Rep. Ron Paul calls Egypt a "mess" made by U.S. intervention

Ron Paul Is Like Political Cyanide

Ron Paul, Barney Frank to Jointly Introduce Bill to End Federal War on Marijuana

Democrats gone scared, push Ron Paul to help Obama

Ron Paul Explains Why He Sounds Just Like Dennis Kucinich

Dick Morris Calls Ron Paul "Horrific", Hangs Up On Peter Schiff (Audio at YouTube)

Ron Paul's Lapses Give Libertarianism a Bad Rap

Kucinich Criticized For Saying he'd consider Ron Paul as VP(2007)

For Ron Paul supporters, ignorance is bliss

Ron Paul votes to homosexualize the US Military

Mark Levin "Ron Paul Supporters Biggest A-Holes"

Crazy Ron Paul Still Blames the US for Islamic Extremism (Video)

39 posted on 07/30/2011 6:10:59 PM PDT by Mozilla
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To: Perdogg

I would vote for him in heartbeat.


40 posted on 07/30/2011 6:12:35 PM PDT by doc
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To: RecoveringPaulisto; All

“I do not think you understand. Ron Paul did not leave the Reagan Coalition until after Rand had come of political age. Ron Paul started out as a gold bug and anti-Communist. Then, he became friends with radical libertarians like Murray Rothbard in the 1980s. He has since left the reservation. Rand Paul, on the other hand, regularly makes comments that put him at odds with Ron Paul-types.” - RecoveringPaulisto

Very interesting comment, especiall on the last sentence about the “Ron Paul types”.

I think the biggest problem with Ron Paul IS his devotees. Most observers regard them as obnoxious kooks and Ron Paul gets more of that image than he deserves - because of his followers. I often thought many were actually liberals who were not sure what they were and attached themselves to him during the Bush era because they liked his stance against the war.

I don’t know but he did get the economics right and he’s been right about the Federal Reserve. Nevertheless, his son has much better skills and doesn’t sound like he’s whining when he speaks. There’s a good deal to be said for that in the plitical arena.


41 posted on 07/30/2011 6:13:58 PM PDT by publius321
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To: publius321

Rand Paul is the real deal.

If he were president, we might still have two houses of congress run by Dims and Establishment/Big Government Republicans but he would tie them in knots with his veto pen if nothing else.


42 posted on 07/30/2011 6:16:14 PM PDT by SharpRightTurn (White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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“Nothing insulting in that. As a supporter of Israel myself, I agree that there should be no monetary aid, least of all using money borrowed from our kids. The good news is that if we cut off all aid to both Israel and the Moslems, it is Israel that will win.” - JimWayne

You NAILED it. I am pro-Israel. I believe they were established by God’s cov with Abraham, Isaac & Jacob. I believe we need to support them - but what Israel needs is not our money (that we don’t have). Israel is not a 3rd world country. Israel needs us to stand beside her and the WORLD needs to always know that we do. I am firmly against our arrogant encroachments as we stand with nations trying to force partitioning of Israeli land to people who want Israel destoyed.

We write Israel some checks and then sell her out to s0-called “Palestinins” who don’t even exist in world HISTORY. We can write out all the checks we want but we are still acursed if we continue to sell her out to her enemines.

Chicagolady means well but I totally disagree that check writing is akin to suporting Israel.


43 posted on 07/30/2011 6:28:25 PM PDT by publius321
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To: publius321

I like Rand Paul. He’s trustworthy.


44 posted on 07/30/2011 9:03:33 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: chicagolady

With all respect, while I admire your sentiment I cannot agree with you.

America does not owe any nation the hard earned tax dollars of its citizens. We waged a bloody war against the Brits to prove that very point. Our Constitution clearly spells out the areas in which federal funds are to be spent — financing allies who aren’t exactly struggling for funds isn’t one of them.

Israel is an important ally. It’s an ally we should be fully prepared to defend with force should such prove necessary. But if you believe it is our duty to financially support Israel, how far do we take that? Billions of dollars a year? Tens of billions of dollars a year? Hundreds of billions of dollars a year? Trillions a year? If Israel finds herself in a particularly nasty bind, do you think it is our duty as Americans to raise our taxes to support them? And if yes, how high should they go?

America has a responsibility to its allies, especially key ones such as Israel. It is not “throwing our allies under the bus” to recognize the limits of that responsibility, however — our nation’s responsibility to Israel only goes so far as our Constitution enables our government to act in such matters. We are loyal to the Israelis as allies, but we must be loyal to America first.


45 posted on 07/31/2011 8:11:31 AM PDT by MWS
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To: SaraJohnson; RecoveringPaulisto
I like Rand Paul. He’s trustworthy.

Trustworthy? Really?! Both Ron and Rand are solid Libertarians and stand by the Libertarian Party platform. Yet, they claim to be Republicans and run as GOP candidates, accepting GOP money in support. This is dishonest, poor character. How can you say that someone who lies about his affiliation is trustworthy?

They are both carpetbaggers and originally from Connecticut. In fact, Rand Paul lived in Ohio adjacent to Kentucky and somehow managed to establish residency in time to run for the Senate. These guys are fishy at best, damaging at worst and their libertarian ideology always benefits Dems rather than Republicans.

46 posted on 07/31/2011 1:10:56 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (I said it, I meant it and I represent it.)
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To: La Enchiladita

Well, to me, Rand is not his dad or you could say, is like his dad before his dad had his brain eaten by old age and the lastest model of amoral aggressive social liberatism.

But, I tell you, with every one of these politicans, no matter what they call themelves, I watch what they do - less than follow what they say. So far, so good with Rand who is not his dad.

But you are welcome to your opinion. If, however, you wanted to convience me to your point of view, you would have to do more than a smear saying he is his dad or lived in Connecticut with no data to back it up on his policy statements and actions.

I would be grateful for a “heads up” like that. I am not a worshiper of any man or woman.


47 posted on 07/31/2011 1:41:28 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: SaraJohnson

It’s too bad you’re not bothered by blatant dishonesty.
If you want some documentation, search on the term ‘adam kokesh’ and get back to me.


48 posted on 07/31/2011 2:00:38 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (I said it, I meant it and I represent it.)
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To: SaraJohnson

Here, I’ll make it easy for you: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2478123/posts


49 posted on 07/31/2011 2:04:04 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (I said it, I meant it and I represent it.)
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To: publius321
As we've gone through the Washington, DC charade over the debt ceiling in recent weeks, Rand Paul has supported a bill that would raise it $2.4 TRILLION dollars.

No thanks.

50 posted on 07/31/2011 2:04:10 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (The only thing still propping up the GOP is the dwindling illusion that it's at all conservative.)
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