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It's Conservatism (Or why we can't support Ron Paul)
The Band Of Patriots ^ | August 2nd, 2011 | Matthew Monos

Posted on 08/05/2011 9:43:48 PM PDT by orthodoxyordeath

During the past few years, the American people have witnessed the strikingly meteoric rise of two politicians on both sides of the political aisles. These two burst onto the political scene during the '08 Presidential Race, and have impassioned individuals in a manner not seen in recent memory. The Liberals got Barack Obama. We all know how that turned out. The Conservatives got stuck with Ron Paul, a deadweight if there ever was one.

Now, as we enter into the full swing mayhem of the next presidential race, it's interesting to note the similarities between "Paul-ites" and the '08 "Obama-ites". The support Paul has on the Internet is probably only second to Obama, and Paul's supporters (you know who I'm talking about!) are some of the most dedicated and rabid ones around. I'm not going to mince words here, Paul fans are as impaired and emotionally unstable as the Obama supporters were (and still are). After jumping onto the passing "Ron Paul Revolution" bus, people have lost their political sanity. The Paul movement is stronger than ever, and people are joining his campaign everyday. I have major problems with him, and I'm going to lay them out here.

(Excerpt) Read more at thebandofpatriots.com ...


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: 2012; blogpimp; conservatism; libertarianism; ronpaul
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1 posted on 08/05/2011 9:43:52 PM PDT by orthodoxyordeath
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To: orthodoxyordeath

R-U-N Paul is a Libertarian, not a Conservative. He’s not worth the ink people are wasting on him.


2 posted on 08/05/2011 9:48:44 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier currently deployed in the Valley of Death, Afghanistan)
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To: SoldierDad

Agree. Can’t stand the guy or his supporters.


3 posted on 08/05/2011 9:54:27 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade, There are only two sides. Pick one.)
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To: SoldierDad

Ron Paul is the constitutionalist that ‘conservatives’ say they’re looking for, but really aren’t. Paul is right, conservatives have lost their way and have become more and more like progressives. But we keep voting for the same old frauds and think it will work THIS time.


4 posted on 08/05/2011 9:54:55 PM PDT by vigilo
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To: orthodoxyordeath
If Ron would ascend the WH, there is no doubt he would get rid of the FBI, CIA, NSA, and well, every other agency he can find. Do we really want that

The ATF, yes I could see doing away with them. The rest, not so much.

5 posted on 08/05/2011 9:56:24 PM PDT by Soothesayer9
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To: orthodoxyordeath

Ron Paul can blow it out his ass. There is a difference between Conservatism and Anarchy. Ron is all anarchy. Now if you want me to vote for his son I am on board. He is a Reaganite.


6 posted on 08/05/2011 9:56:36 PM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: vigilo

R-U-N Paul is a fraud.


7 posted on 08/05/2011 9:56:50 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier currently deployed in the Valley of Death, Afghanistan)
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To: orthodoxyordeath

Your link didn’t work for me, try this one:

http://thebandofpatriots.com/blog/2011/8/2/its-conservatism-stupid-or-why-i-wont-ever-support-ron-paul.html

(Conservatism was spelled conservativsm in your links...)


8 posted on 08/05/2011 9:58:09 PM PDT by EasySt (2012... Sometimes you have to flush twice.)
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To: EasySt

Whoops, I completely messed up the URL somehow. I’m so sorry guys. First post, noob here, have some mercy :-/


9 posted on 08/05/2011 10:03:24 PM PDT by orthodoxyordeath
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To: vigilo
Ron Paul is the constitutionalist that ‘conservatives’ say they’re looking for, but really aren’t. Paul is right, conservatives have lost their way and have become more and more like progressives. But we keep voting for the same old frauds and think it will work THIS time.

Nonsense. Ron Paul is a libertarian, not a conservative. Ron Paul is the same as Andre Marrou, Harry Browne, Michael Badnarik, etc - all failed libertarian presidential candidates, all utterly insignificant politically. The only reason Paul is even noticed at all is because he runs as a Republican instead of the libertarian that he actually is.

When all is said and done and Paul gets some tiny fraction of the primary vote, more than half of his supporters will go on to vote for Obama in the general election rather than the GOP nominee anyway. Many, perhaps most, libertarian leaning voters are simply mushhead college students that want legalized dope and are attracted to a peacenik agenda.

TL;DR, Paul is a libertarian not a conservative, doesn't really belong in the Republican party and adds precious little to the GOP.

10 posted on 08/05/2011 10:08:10 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: sageb1
Can’t stand the guy or his supporters.

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11 posted on 08/05/2011 10:13:30 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: orthodoxyordeath

Keep those earmarks coming Ron...


12 posted on 08/05/2011 10:14:06 PM PDT by Fred (Palin/Bachmann 2012 OR Bachmann/Palin 2012......that is the ticket!!!)
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To: orthodoxyordeath

It might not have been your fault. They may have made the initial mistake and fixed it, leaving you with bad links...

;-)


13 posted on 08/05/2011 10:14:39 PM PDT by EasySt (2012... Sometimes you have to flush twice.)
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To: SoldierDad
Ron Paul is a nut, Alan Keyes is rabidly insane, and there are more like them in the GOP. Yet both transfix viewers when they manage to suddenly become coherent and say something that makes sense. Then, they scare the crap out of the statist bulk of the GOP.

But dismissing a large part of the conservative movement that feels there is more honesty in libertarian views is mostly disingenuous.Franklin would have happily called himself a libertarian, Goldberg enjoined libertarianism, and as for supporting "the Reaganite":

From the pen of Ronald Reagan, himself in Reason magazine in 1975:

"If you analyze it I believe the very heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism. I think conservatism is really a misnomer just as liberalism is a misnomer for the liberals–if we were back in the days of the Revolution, so-called conservatives today would be the Liberals and the liberals would be the Tories. The basis of conservatism is a desire for less government interference or less centralized authority or more individual freedom and this is a pretty general description also of what libertarianism is."

The problem is that are so many assumed conservatives who are pissed that the Left is getting away with what they would like to do - use the force of a central government to make individuals live according their world view.

14 posted on 08/05/2011 10:19:57 PM PDT by Ophiucus
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To: Longbow1969

Oh, I get it. A conservative is someone who believes in unconstitutional government as long as it’s THEIR unconstitutional government. Vote for Romney or Perry or Palin or whomever ends up getting the nod and you know what you’ll get? Bigger government because not a one of them truly believes in smaller government or placing the chains of the constitution back on the feds. Yes, during the election they’ll talk about it, but once they get in power, forget about it.

We need to wake up to the fraud that is so called conservatism which isn’t conservatism at all. It’s just the slow socialism that so many of you claim to hate yet you continue to support election cycle after election cycle and then wonder why we keep getting the same old crap out of D.C.


15 posted on 08/05/2011 10:21:02 PM PDT by vigilo
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To: orthodoxyordeath
The Conservatives got stuck with Ron Paul, a deadweight if there ever was one.

Ron Paul is no conservative, nor does he have a chance of winning the nomination.

He runs because he likes the attention his cult gives him.

16 posted on 08/05/2011 10:23:14 PM PDT by Allegra (Hey! Stop looking at my tagline like that.)
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To: vigilo
I hope that you also are wearing your flame retardant boxers. :-)
17 posted on 08/05/2011 10:29:20 PM PDT by Ophiucus
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To: orthodoxyordeath

The BEST article I’ve ever read on Ron Paul. It expresses my thoughts on him completely!


18 posted on 08/05/2011 10:38:52 PM PDT by llandres (Forget the "New America" - restore the original one!!)
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To: SoldierDad

“R-U-N Paul is a Libertarian, not a Conservative. He’s not worth the ink people are wasting on him.”

I’m SO glad he decided not to run on third party ticket, though, as he did in 1988. He’d be a real spoiler and doom us to a second term of BHO for sure. At least this way, we’ll get rid of him (not soon enough, but soon as possible).

I’m also scared to death that Trump’s going to get back in as a third party candidate. He talks about it at least once a week.


19 posted on 08/05/2011 10:43:15 PM PDT by llandres (Forget the "New America" - restore the original one!!)
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To: SoldierDad

“He’s not worth the ink people are wasting on him.”

The problem is, the leftist MSM thinks this nutjob represents real conservatives. It galls me how so many of them make him the face of the Tea Party.


20 posted on 08/05/2011 10:50:17 PM PDT by llandres (Forget the "New America" - restore the original one!!)
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