Air Force Staff Sergeant Refusing Orders Until Obama's Eligibility Dealt With

Birther Report ^ | Aug.13,2011

[charlene4]

Here is the email from Air Force Staff Sergeant Moran,

My name is Daryn J. Moran. I am a SSgt in the USAF stationed in Germany.

I called Pastor Manning of the Manning Report just recently (Youtube video posted below) to share my concern for our country. Boils down that I have not gone in to work last Thurs. and Fri. First time I was AWOL in nearly 13 years. Until B. Obama provides a birth certificate which stands up to professional examination, not even mentioning the seriousness of the fact that his father was never an American, I no longer serve the Armed Forces or take orders.

Basically, I'd rather follow Mr. Lakin, the ex-Army officer who went to Ft. Leavenworth, into war against our real enemies.

My family is in turmoil because I cannot change my heart to support Obama, or protect his criminality. I love America and the Constitution and stand against B. Obama. He should be arrested.

[El Sordo]

Innerestin’

http://www.theblaze.com/users/daryn-j-moran/

http://military.omaha.com/2011/02/16/meet-the-team/#comment-660

Perhaps this is a matter of wanting to be hung for a sheep rather than a lamb.

In for a penny, in for a pound.

[21stCenturion]

Well, now that you mention it, I DID visit Cdr K’s site since posting earlier. ( Since I have already perused Lakin sites some time ago, I was not similarly motivated to go back there. )

Frankly, I left shortly after ‘clicking in’ since all I saw was the same ol’, same ol’ Birther rants and spurious applications for Cert proffered by folks who don’t seem to have a clue ...

I posted my entry into this thread with this assertion:

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The so-called ‘eligibility’ question is SO irrelevant, at this remove ... The time to address it expired with the election. From then on, the issue resided solely with the Congress and they refused to even take it up.

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So, Cdr K is just another self-important, self-promoting Birther with a VERY cluttered but not very informative or persuasive ‘ranter’ web site. Throughout, there is ample evidence that his efforts are not much more than roaring the engine, spinning the wheels but NOT make much forward progress.

You’re gonna have to find somebody else to bow down and kiss his feet — I’m NOT your boy.

Also, just where do YOU get off telling me to get off FR ‘cause I don’t agree with your precious obsessions or don’t approve of your personal preferences in who to follow ?

I’M not the one promoting insurrection or lawlessness on the part of the Military — that’s YOU and your precious Cdr K.

One Man’s Opinion

21stCenturion

[TexasTransplant]

Settle Down

I had 28 years in uniform ... “Lawful Orders” are the only Orders that need be obeyed

I do have great sympathy for you ... (Jimmy Carter signed my initial Discharge of Service and sent me my little pin)

I agree with you the SSgt is out of his league and will pay the price... he can’t change a thing.

There is a reason the Oath starts with

” I, (NAME), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic;”

Just like the Declaration of Independence and the Bill of Rights ... what comes first is much more important than what comes later.

Thank you for your Service ... Hang in there just a couple more years ... we love ya

TT

[Pilsner]

How can we expect our military to fulfill their oaths when our Administration/Judicial/Congress pay no heed to theirs?

This is the oath an officer takes:

I (insert name), having been appointed a (insert rank) in the U.S. Army under the conditions indicated in this document, do accept such appointment and do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic, that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter, so help me God.

This is the oath enlisted personnel take:

I, (NAME), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God. (emphasis added)

The idea that an enlisted man's oath allows, much less requires, him to refuse to follow orders to show up for work, is prepostorous.

Oh, Birthers, ping me when this clown refuses an Air Force paycheck until BO proves his place of birth to whatever undefined tribunal this guy wants established.

[21stCenturion]

I’ll keep this’n short and simple.

There’s no point responding at all if you haven’t seen ALL my previous posts on this thread.

But ... Be that as it may, I do NOT respond to Birther rants that conflate my Oath with the NBC or any OTHER issue. There is NO point in arguing about or on the basis of such a bogus syllogism. I CANNOT make any sense out of the assertion that the OATH somehow makes ME personally accountable for ANY political act or omission you have taken in dispute — won’t even try.

One Man’s Opinion

21stCenturion

[darkwing104]

Just the people who have no skin in the game...

This goes beyond the birther issue. My opinion of the SSgt's move is silly...You can't pick and choose your leaders and his orders in this case doesn't come from the President but from the UCMJ. I am saying this as a retired SNCO based on fact...What the guy is doing is stupid. He signed a contract and took an oath...he's in violation of it and that is a court-martial offense starting from an Article 15 to a BCD. My recommendation would be separation under less than honorable condition.

National Politics has no place in the military. He picked his battle but in the wrong forum. When someone goes AWOL or desert the other people performing their duty honorably must pick up the slack of the missing Airman. In a critical situation this can get people killed.

I don't know about you but that pisses me off.

Think twice before you support this guy. I doubt he'll get any sympathy from combat vets.

[bvw]

A man of his times, you are. Like Obama, a man ready with excuses, a victim of the world. Unaccountable.

Every friggin’ bully I’ve ever run across is the same way.

[Red Steel]

The man believes that when the US Constitution is in conflict with his military orders, the US Constitution takes precedent.

Oh, Birthers, ping me when this clown refuses an Air Force paycheck until BO proves his place of birth to whatever undefined tribunal this guy wants established.

The sergeant claims to be AWOL. He appears to be looking beyond his next paycheck.

[TexasTransplant]

bump

[David]

This guy ought to have a competent lawyer who understands both military procedure and the method of contesting adverse military decisions in Federal Court.

He needs to get that person on board before he says the first word on the record.

For example, his complaint is nothing to do with a birth certificate--what he wants is to request that the Commander in Chief and the authorized officer who communicates orders confirm the orders are issued by lawful authority--specifically that the Commander in Chief in fact holds the office he claims to issue the orders from because he meets the eligibility test of Article II, Sec. 1 of the US Constitution.

[21stCenturion]

How simply breath-taking.

I am so profoundly moved by the cogency of your arguments and factual citations that I am in mortal danger of falling into a Birther trance and reciting gobbletygook ‘til the Rapture comes.

In other words, what does your statement have to do with ANYTHING that came before ? Classic non-sequitur ...

One Man’s Opinion

21stCenturion

[BuckeyeTexan]

I don't think he really cares about the eligibility issue.

Daryn Moran says:
May 17, 2011 at 5:10 am
Dear Omaha World Herald War Team,

I’m getting discharged soon from the military for saying the homosexuality is sin in the Bible. Married with 2 children. The lack of God in America and our “new” military is frightening. The Bible says the second death is the lake of fire, and whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. Do you think sinners will try to seek God and salvation if leaders put stamps of approval on their sin? Are you Christian people? What do you believe?

The battles military members wage in defense of our country are crucial, but the battle for the Lord and the Bible at this time in America is even more crucial.

[bvw]

I agree with you the SSgt is out of his league and will pay the price... he can’t change a thing.

(1) This is LIFE. We don't have leagues. We all play. Bench sitters do not exist. Somehow, someway, we, each and all of use, every one, are a part of the game.

(2) Sure, he'll pay a price, and a steep one.

(3) He indicates he understands the price. It could even be higher than that Colonel-Surgeon Lakin paid.

(4) I hear all the yapping from "vets" and sometimes form them still in the service about how they were ready to to give the greatest sacrifice (as if no other profession or job or duty includes such mortal risks), but here's a man -- a senior Sargent who is walking right into harm's way eyes wide open. Why the heck are you knocking him?

(5) We aren't Germans. We are Americans.

[bvw]

For your profound movements there is some help: here

[darkwing104]

a senior Sargent

He's a junior NCO...

[bvw]

My hunch is that the Sargent has been confused, bothered and perhaps broken by the natural moral conflicts now at a head in the services. Still, he should have every aid of legal recourse, no different than the Jags like to give our mortal enemies.

[bvw]

How many stripes?

[TexasTransplant]

Thank you

[Pilsner]

The sergeant claims to be AWOL. He appears to be looking beyond his next paycheck.

I mean after his arrest, while awaiting court martial. After all, if BO's status makes all military orders invalid, then his pay orders are also invalid.

[darkwing104]

Four, Air Force E-5 with 13 years in. In the Army he would only be a Sergent

Senior NCO grades are E-7s to 9.

Not slamming you but letting you know. From an eariler post it looks he is getting the boot for something else...

I don't believe the guy is being honest